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cc426
07-18-2013, 3:38 PM
I found a pretty good deal (I think) 55 cents/round but wasn't able to really find any info on this ammo. I'm going to be shooting it out of a M&P10.

I found some people saying its the same as silver bear, but wasn't able to find much info on silver bear .308 168gr either.

Looks like velocity and energy are down compared to most 308 and even compared to 7.62x51 NATO. It's steel case with zinc plating. Looks like it's made in Russia in Barnaul and just re-branded to Colt.

Anybody have any experience using this ammo or silver bear .308 168gr?
Any problems shooting a bimetal bullet other than certain ranges not allowing it?
Any problems cycling a semi auto?
How's the accuracy?

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/20rd-308-win-168gr-fmjbt-ammo.aspx?a=1326075&CJ=1&cjaffilid=4084797&cjaffsite=adrian+laza&cjadv=CJTSGUSA&cjadvid=1522857&utm_source=adrian+laza&utm_medium=CJ&utm_campaign=SPG+Product+Catalog+-+SportsmansGuide.com

MrPlink
07-18-2013, 3:45 PM
Depends on your gun. Some guns will eat steel case all day long others will have problems galore.

My Scar will eat it. Its extra dirty. Not very consistent but it goes bang. Good for aimless plinking

Calplinker
07-18-2013, 3:51 PM
Also good for HK's and PTR's that dent the heck out of the brass. I prefer to shoot steel cases ammo out of mine.

cc426
07-18-2013, 4:26 PM
Thanks for the replies, I've shot some Herter's steel just fine, i was wondering if anybody has experience specifically with this Colt/Silver Bear stuff since it looks to be grossly under-powered 2559FPS vs ~2700-2800FPS.

Also, 168gr BT usually is pretty accurate for me, and the steel stuff i shot was 150gr...don't know how big of a difference that would really make? i know part of it is in the bullet and part of it in the load...

Hoop
07-18-2013, 6:35 PM
Might be okay I have a hard time paying 55cents a round for plinking ammo that is non-reloadable though.

cc426
09-25-2013, 8:56 AM
I know this is an old thread but I thought I'd give everyone an update since I bought a couple boxes and tried them out at the range

Accuracy isn't horrible about 2-3 moa with 5 shot groups at 100 yards. It did shoot flat but about 3 inches to the right. It cycled the action on my m&p10 just fine. Doesn't seem too much dirtier than most stuff

Here's the bad part. About 15% failure to fire out of 100 rounds. Pull the trigger and *click* nothing. Visually inspecting the primers doesn't seem the strikes were any lighter than the ones that went off but I don't know.

Steve_In_29
09-25-2013, 9:37 AM
Thanks for the update. I was looking at some of this ammo myself but not with that rate of FTF. On the other hand I have used the .223 Silver Bear (same stuff?) in my wife's Keltec with no FTF at all.

Could it possibly be weapon related? I have heard some AR platforms can have issues igniting the harder and deeper-seated Russian primers due to not enough fireing pin protrusion.

cc426
09-25-2013, 10:13 AM
I think that it definitely could be weapon related I am also running a CMC trigger so I imagine the springs are not as strong

NHP1127
09-25-2013, 1:10 PM
You can find better brass stuff for a similar price. Check wikiarms.com or similar daily for ammo pricing.

RAMCHARGER
09-25-2013, 3:11 PM
The stuff worked perfectly in my Saiga .308 and my Ruger Gun Sight.
Accuarcy? It swisse cheesed a propane tank at 200 yards we found if the desert :)

NHP1127
09-25-2013, 4:03 PM
Gunbot had 2000 rounds of Lake City green tip for $799.95 yesterday.

that is 5.56.... not .308