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Deadon
07-11-2012, 10:39 AM
My 229 Scorpion hasnt had any problems feeding FMJ but I bought some Win Ranger Bonded rounds and it has a hard time feeding them. I have about 500 rounds through the gun and I thought maybe it was because it wasnt broke in but now I dunno. I would really like to use the bonded rounds as it will be a carry gun. Any ideas?

tal3nt
07-11-2012, 12:11 PM
Is it nose diving into the feed ramp?

What is the feeding issue?

There is a possibility that those just aren't the rounds meant to be fired out of your gun. Try others as there are many options..

unusedusername
07-11-2012, 12:20 PM
Do you have a photo of the feed issue?

Deadon
07-11-2012, 12:38 PM
I'll get a photo. Think it is the feed ramp. My other guns feed em so maybe it's just this sig. I know the ammo I'm using was FBI over run.

9mmepiphany
07-11-2012, 3:29 PM
I know the ammo I'm using was FBI over run
When did they change?

I thought the FBI was still using Remington Golden Saber. Did Winchester win more than the .40 contract?

Riddler
07-11-2012, 3:32 PM
When did they change?

I thought the FBI was still using Remington Golden Saber. Did Winchester win more than the .40 contract?

They switched to Winchester Pdx1

Deadon
07-11-2012, 6:04 PM
Couple pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0189-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0191-2.jpg

unusedusername
07-11-2012, 6:06 PM
Looks like it is feeding into the chamber.

Are these checkmate mags or Mec Gar?

Deadon
07-11-2012, 6:41 PM
I'll look, it's the ones that come with the gun. If I push the slide forward it will go forward. That's why I thought maybe in time it will work it self out.
Other then that this is gun has me hooked. I can't seem to stop shooting it. The feel, the recoil, the accucury. I just love the thing!

neouser
07-11-2012, 7:19 PM
Couple pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0189-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0191-2.jpg

That looks familiar. Many people who own Sigs have repeated two common phrases to me that I didn't believe until I owned one myself:

1) Sigs are VERY picky about ammo. Test a lot of different loads and find the ones it likes.

2) Sigs like being shot wet. Lots of lubricant.

Mine is incredibly accurate, but will only work with very specific rounds. It's not as picky about wet or dry, but seems smoother when well oiled. (Still too much of a hassle for me, hence the reason I'm trying to trade it off.)

If it doesn't like PDX-1, that may not be your load. Most of the tests I see for the PDX have difficulty expanding through heavy clothing anyways. It's wonderful that it's bonded, but pointless if there are high odds that it'll perform like a very expensive FMJ. Maybe try a nice Gold Dot? From what I've seen, the Critical Duty looks promising as well. (Not to be confused with Critical Defense.)

Paperchasin
07-11-2012, 7:20 PM
I've had 2 different P229's, a standard and a Stainless Elite, and both of them did this. Both used original Sig magazines as well.

Gunfighter01
07-11-2012, 7:24 PM
To me, it looks like either your rails aren't wet enough with grease,,, sigs love to run wet, or maybe just a weak recoil spring.

mjmagee67
07-11-2012, 7:41 PM
I have a Siggy Scorpion and I had the same problem, with handloads only, never with factory ammo. I ended up doing 2 things to fix it. 1 I stopped grease on the rails, I now run Tetra-Lube oil. 2 I but a pretty good crimp on my rounds. .468-.469. But the gun runs better with oil, I guess Sig builds them tight.

shoupdawg
07-11-2012, 7:52 PM
To me, it looks like either your rails aren't wet enough with grease,,, sigs love to run wet,

I don't think it's the spring if it's new. If anything, my 226st still has such a strong spring (relative to my 1990's west german p6 and 220) that I have a hard time locking the slide back.

I didn't believe in the "sigs love to run wet" until it happened to me with this newest sig of mine...there's a reason this is stickied over at sigforum. Just ran my lubed sig at a weekend training this past weekend. Not one single issue and I used 2 different types of walmart-bought ammo.

http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/430601935/m/908103701/p/1

unusedusername
07-11-2012, 8:05 PM
I'll look, it's the ones that come with the gun. If I push the slide forward it will go forward. That's why I thought maybe in time it will work it self out.
Other then that this is gun has me hooked. I can't seem to stop shooting it. The feel, the recoil, the accucury. I just love the thing!

Sig "brand" mags used to be made in Italy by Mec Gar. Now they are changing to a new manufacturer here in the states, Checkmate, however this new vendor currently isn't producing reliable magazines. The ones stamped "Made in USA" are the ones that sometimes don't work. If you have a Checkmate magazine, get a Mec Gar mag (http://www.topgunsupply.com/magazines-sig-sauer_p228-229/) and try again.

Lube could also be the issue.

I use a heavy grease (http://www.amazon.com/Heavy-Slide-Glide-Tub/dp/B0032ZKM9O) on mine to keep it running nicely, but with this heavy of a grease it really does not take much to keep it going. I use a plastic syringe to apply a tiny-tiny amount (http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/430601935/m/908103701/p/1) to the rails then rack the slide a few times before shooting.

Unlike oil, grease will not dry off the gun, nor will it evaporate during long shooting sessions.

What color is your recoil spring? It should be blue for 40/357 or white for 9mm. Occasionally an incorrect spring gets through QC.

I know my P229 in 9mm (http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p229-extreme.aspx) feeds PDX-1s as I've tested them.

9mmepiphany
07-11-2012, 9:26 PM
It looks like your extractor is too tight...that is a classic 1911 issue...and it isn't allowing the case rim to slide freely up under the hook. It isn't likely a recoil spring on a new gun

Give SIG a call, they should send you a shipping label to return it for adjustment