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JB-Norcal
08-02-2011, 7:46 AM
I've got a slight itch - Nobody I know locally shoots an AK, where do you suggest I seek info on a build? I'd love to sit in on a party.

Arisaka
08-02-2011, 2:01 PM
I'm in Redding. Do you have a kit?

bigcalidave
08-02-2011, 2:11 PM
I'd love to see someone put a build party together up here! We need to start bringing Calguns members together. Just need to find kits!

Arisaka
08-02-2011, 2:13 PM
No kidding! I had to go it alone for my first build, a party would have been cool. Here's the link to the parts kit update thread, so you can get the best deal: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=443301

Diesel-Gunner
08-02-2011, 4:57 PM
I would be up for a Northern build party. I am sure there are some good places up there. I have most of the jigs and dies. Could also lend a press or two to the cause. Kits are everywhere right now. Curtis at AK builder has quite a few.

Diesel-Gunner
08-02-2011, 5:00 PM
Oh, and I am sure with a little persuasion we could get Nico to come up too. He has some mad welding skills. Nico.... paging Nico...... (chirp chirp)

JB-Norcal
08-02-2011, 5:15 PM
No, no kit. It's just an itch, I'm trying not to scratch, but I'm sure I will. It's on my list of TTD, but damned if my business as usual and the almighty dollar always seems to get in the way of what I really want to do.
Thanks for the update link.

Arisaka
08-05-2011, 12:00 PM
I still think that we should have build parties up here occasionally.

Jeepers
08-06-2011, 3:19 PM
just ordered a kit myself (ordered a apex PMKMS and still saving $$$ for the barrel and flat)and would love to see a build party up in our area

mrvash
08-06-2011, 3:24 PM
I'm in Redding too, however; I sold my AK 6 months back :(

Arisaka
08-07-2011, 8:24 AM
^^^ Buy a kit and let's get this going!! I have alot of the stuff for a party. Who has jigs?

Jeepers
08-07-2011, 8:25 PM
^^^ Buy a kit and let's get this going!! I have alot of the stuff for a party. Who has jigs?

i was planning on a pull threw "poor mans jig" myself, but that because i am poor ....lmao ... and can reconfigure it with a round bar someday for my kp44 build if i ever get back to that one

Arisaka
08-08-2011, 7:07 AM
That's what i did. I have a press now, if i bend another i'll probably just use the same jig in the press. Worked pretty well!

VaderSpade
08-08-2011, 1:50 PM
I'm not too interested in AK's but I love building, and would like the know how.

My brother works at a body shop welding cars back together all day.

He welds some pretty thin stuff so I’m sure he could help us out. As I remember there is a pretty stout press at the shop also.

novass
08-08-2011, 8:08 PM
I would like to build a ak also.but I don't know what kit to buy there are so many kinds I don't know what's up side folders under folders and more countries that I can count. What is a good kit?by the way I have been a fabricator for 14 years so I mite bee a little help.I live in red bluff

Arisaka
08-08-2011, 10:01 PM
My first was a Romy G from AK-Builder.com with new headspaced U.S. made barrel. It's a good first build! Unless you want a folder...

Jeepers
08-09-2011, 5:57 PM
from what i got in searching a AK is a AK in general, just different configurations , all built about the same ... i still haven't decided if i want to use my under folder or a regular flat and go with a side folding ace stock :confused:.. i just go on price myself, but i am not a AK guy i just got the itch after pulling 300 out of the corning casino .....lol

btw anyone up here have a set of go/nogo guages they want to loan/rent when the time comes ?

novass
08-12-2011, 5:45 PM
What do you guys think of building a rpk? Are they a milled receiver? Can you get 80% milled receivers and what do you have to finish?

Arisaka
08-12-2011, 7:28 PM
I'm pretty sure the Romanian RPK kits you see for sale use a stamped (thicker) reciever. Bend a flat!

SmellOfCordite
08-12-2011, 8:23 PM
I am in Chico and am down for a build party. I have a Romy G kit that needs some love. If anyone is looking for a kit, hit up Gunbroker!

Arisaka
08-13-2011, 7:49 AM
Also, be sure to check JPurp's parts kit update thread. The link is in one of my posts above.

novass
08-14-2011, 8:49 AM
there are some romi non g kits on gunbroker for 179 are there any good ?

SmellOfCordite
08-14-2011, 1:45 PM
there are some romi non g kits on gunbroker for 179 are there any good ?

I do not think the barrel is intact... I might be inclined to get an AK builder kit if I were you. Finding a kit for less than 300 is pretty hard to find these days from what I have seen. I almost had a numbers matching Yugo under folder m70 for 320 a month ago though and those are going for bank.

novass
08-14-2011, 3:29 PM
ok i looked on akbuilder they have a romi g kit wiyh original barrel for 349. or a polish under folder with us made barrel for 359.im guessing they both have a 16" barrel it doesnt say.im very new to aks can you put a fixed stock on a under folder?sorry if im asking these questions in the wrong place just looking for a little help from local guys. i would like to do a build party for my first one.what othere parts or supplies will i need to get i know about 922.any help would be great.also i was looking at the cold steel solutions receivers are they good?

RobGR
08-14-2011, 3:35 PM
Here's your fix on the underfolder - http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=185188

SmellOfCordite
08-14-2011, 4:09 PM
Here's your fix on the underfolder - http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=185188

That is EXACTLY how I was going to do it... Just getting the kit was the issue. Thanks for sharing though.
Eta: didn't realize that was directed at nova lol

SmellOfCordite
08-14-2011, 7:07 PM
ok i looked on akbuilder they have a romi g kit wiyh original barrel for 349. or a polish under folder with us made barrel for 359.im guessing they both have a 16" barrel it doesnt say.im very new to aks can you put a fixed stock on a under folder?sorry if im asking these questions in the wrong place just looking for a little help from local guys. i would like to do a build party for my first one.what othere parts or supplies will i need to get i know about 922.any help would be great.also i was looking at the cold steel solutions receivers are they good?

If you are building your own, you should go with an AK builder flat or an NDS receiver IMO. Those kits have the proper barrel length already but if you get the under folder you do need to follow the above link to pin the stock. For 922r you should check the checklist that another member made up recently, I used ak builder slant break, NDS receiver, tapco g2 which is three, and a US made pistol grip like hogue. You can get a couple "G" kits on gun broker right now for about three, that is fully complete too.

Jeepers
08-14-2011, 8:01 PM
If you are building your own, you should go with an AK builder flat or an NDS receiver IMO. Those kits have the proper barrel length already but if you get the under folder you do need to follow the above link to pin the stock. For 922r you should check the checklist that another member made up recently, I used ak builder slant break, NDS receiver, tapco g2 which is three, and a US made pistol grip like hogue. You can get a couple "G" kits on gun broker right now for about three, that is fully complete too.

or use this and a break to get to the OAL needed, thats what i am doing as i want to retain the use of my folder
http://www.cncwarrior.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=170
http://www.cncwarrior.com/comersus/store/catalog/23074-1_LG.jpg

SmellOfCordite
08-14-2011, 8:44 PM
or use this and a break to get to the OAL needed, thats what i am doing as i want to retain the use of my folder
http://www.cncwarrior.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=170
http://www.cncwarrior.com/comersus/store/catalog/23074-1_LG.jpg
Niiiice:cool:

novass
08-15-2011, 5:37 PM
the romi g kits are gone on akbuilder so i guess its gunbroker time:(

SmellOfCordite
08-15-2011, 7:29 PM
the romi g kits are gone on akbuilder so i guess its gunbroker time:(

Too bad you just missed a great demilled G kit for 300...

jameswest992000
08-21-2011, 5:34 AM
I am in Redding and may also be interested in a build party. I have an AK but would like to build an underfolder. Haven't started gathering the parts yet though.

novass
08-21-2011, 8:12 PM
ok im on my way i just ordered a romy g kit from what a country.do you guys know of any links to get plans for build tools? like rivet jigs flat stamps and what ever else i need ? i have a small mill and lathe and can weld anything so i can build stuff i need just need a game plan? thanks for any help you can give me.

JB-Norcal
08-26-2011, 7:25 AM
Like novass, I too just ordered from WAC and am starting to gather up some stuff. I will make this a project for the fall - not that I've got any free time, according to the Mrs.

JB-Norcal
08-26-2011, 7:26 AM
Like the double cross flag

Arisaka
08-26-2011, 3:45 PM
ok im on my way i just ordered a romy g kit from what a country.do you guys know of any links to get plans for build tools? like rivet jigs flat stamps and what ever else i need ? i have a small mill and lathe and can weld anything so i can build stuff i need just need a game plan? thanks for any help you can give me.

Use 69mach1's build instructions- http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=292985

Ak-builder.com sells tools, maybe buy from them or get ideas to make your own.

Are you pretty handy with the lathe? Think I could talk you into turning down my Galil barrel? I can help with your build, and have a press (if you don't have one)

JB-Norcal
08-30-2011, 8:20 AM
Recv'd my Romy G from WTC, quick efficient transaction everything matches with an '84 date. They included a sling of my choice to make up for the inability to include a 30 rnd mag.
Now the fun begins. Just gotta keep my priorities real.
That being said, I've gone over Mach69's posts/threads and as I'm a hands on guy is there any other links that will help my noobie-ness to the AK platform?

novass
09-17-2011, 12:46 PM
got my kit from what a country it looks like its never fired.ordered some flats and most my small parts will be here monday.gitting my little shop set up will be able to start moving forward soon.anyone up here got anything going on?

JB-Norcal
09-17-2011, 10:23 PM
I've got almost everything I need, including questions and a willingness to learn. Who in the 960 area has put together a BP? Is there a master list of what is needed for a smooth running day?

Edit - I PM's locals that may be interested.

Arisaka
09-17-2011, 10:45 PM
A build party is going to need:

A press (got it)
A welder, spot or MIG (I have a fluxcore)
A bernz o matic torch
modified bolt cutters (got em)
Jigs (don't have legit ones, only home made)
Dremel w/lots of bits (can always use more bits)
Am I missing anything? I'm pretty sure that's it. Oh ya, PATIENCE. Thanks for the update, JB-Norcal!

Arisaka
09-17-2011, 10:46 PM
Oh ya, I've never attended or put on a build party, I'm just guessing at the needed tools based on what I used to build one. Maybe a park tank and solution if you want to parkerize your gun.

SmellOfCordite
09-17-2011, 11:09 PM
Well I want to get into this, even if it is a small party. I have a dremel with all the fixins but that is everything I have in Chico, all the large items; mill, lathe, drill press, 40 ton press are in my shop in San Jose:facepalm: I forgot to mention I am building on an NDS 3 receiver too so I only need to crush some rivets and press in a barrel/ headspace so I could be around to help others too. I would love to get a park tank up and running, let me know if we need money for solution.

Jeepers
09-18-2011, 7:39 AM
i have dremil and one of Ryan's jigs, no park tank, but think theres a restaurant supply house on 273 (think its called cash and carry ?)that should carry S.S. steam table inserts that would do the job for a tank.. still havnt sent out my barrel and parts for headspacing/population yet, and also still short a few 922 parts and need to order my flat and rivets(or screw set if we dont get a party together) ....

edit would also need a blasting cab and media for doing park also

SmellOfCordite
09-18-2011, 7:48 AM
Ok we need to figure out time and place, as well as what tools everyone is bringing. Who wants to spearhead this? I live in a one bedroom apartment so I can't host but I will help in whatever way I can.

Arisaka
09-18-2011, 1:32 PM
We can have it at my house if you guys want, just so we don't have to move the press. You guys might want to consider rust bluing, I did it on my first build and it's not too hard. Really nice finish too, plus no need for the tank.

ETA I live within walking distance of Harbor Freight:43:

JB-Norcal
09-18-2011, 2:40 PM
I haven't started prepping in any way, and the rest of my parts are ordered. Seeing as how I have zero experience and have the least to offer besides dremil/bits, torch, I'll try to go along with who can plan best. Who wants to take point?

SmellOfCordite
09-18-2011, 7:13 PM
Well I would take point on this if it wasn't my first AK build. I refinished my stock already and demilled the kit except for the rear trunnion. So I don't think I will have that much to do if I am not bending the receiver.

Does anyone think I will need the red star fcg retainer plate instead of shepherds crook? Also, if everyone hasn't bought their compliance parts we should take orders and save on shipping.

What we need is some more experienced builders to help make this happen.

Arisaka
09-19-2011, 8:59 AM
Either one will work, but the retaining plate works a little better. ^^

SmellOfCordite
09-19-2011, 1:32 PM
Either one will work, but the retaining plate works a little better. ^^

I figure they work about the same, just that the retaining plate is easier to put in. I might have to pick one up when I get more parts at AKbuilder.:cool:

Arisaka
09-19-2011, 1:36 PM
Honestly, I don't know if the thing is even necessary. When I reamed my pin holes, they are tight enough that the pin pops into place and doesn't show any signs of wanting to come out without being driven out from the other end. I don't think the pins are going anywhere either way.

ks98gst
09-19-2011, 6:12 PM
I'm from paradise and have a romi g kit, I'm interested in a build Party, also have two friends with the same kits that would probably be interested as well

SmellOfCordite
09-19-2011, 8:24 PM
Welcome to Calguns first off, stay up with this thread and I think we might have something.

Arisaka
09-20-2011, 7:18 AM
So, we are waiting on a park tank? No date set yet? What are we missing?

Jeepers
09-20-2011, 7:44 AM
So, we are waiting on a park tank? No date set yet? What are we missing?
i haven't ordered up my flat and rivets yet as i still need barrel population , anyway of us getting someone what knows headspacing and population wanna help out ? if so i can guaranty i will be there and order up the rest of my missing parts ....lol:D

SmellOfCordite
09-20-2011, 7:50 AM
So, we are waiting on a park tank? No date set yet? What are we missing?

what about early November? I think we should use the cost of the BP to go towards a park tank and I don't know what you have Arisaka(besides a press and some other tools) that we we need. Trigger guard jig, long rivet jig, Headspace gauges, Flat bending jig(for those that need a receiver), front rivet squeezer etc. We need to get a list going of what everyone has and possibly start a new thread for the BP itself. What do you think?

Arisaka
09-20-2011, 10:58 AM
I have a press, welder (not a spot welder, a fluxcore), reamer, Dremel, modified bolt cutters, and a homemade jig for pressing the barrel in. Jeepers has a flat bending jig. We need trigger guard jig, rear trunnion rivet jig, and a park tank/park solution. I am working on a Galil right now, I may pick up a kit to build at the party but if not I can just provide my stuff and place to do it. I've built one AK, around April so I can probably help out too.

SmellOfCordite
09-20-2011, 12:54 PM
I have a press, welder (not a spot welder, a fluxcore), reamer, Dremel, modified bolt cutters, and a homemade jig for pressing the barrel in. Jeepers has a flat bending jig. We need trigger guard jig, rear trunnion rivet jig, and a park tank/park solution. I am working on a Galil right now, I may pick up a kit to build at the party but if not I can just provide my stuff and place to do it. I've built one AK, around April so I can probably help out too.

Good stuff, since I want to get this BP rollin I am thinking of buying a rivet jig similar to the AKbuilder one and I already have the AKbuilder trigger guard rivet jig. What we need is a park tank, if not rust blue might have to do it.

What about the date? First weekend in November works for me, and it will give us time to get everything settled. Arisaka how many people do you feel comfortable having at your place? We should get a list going of who wants to attend and start from there.

SmellOfCordite
09-20-2011, 1:27 PM
I forgot to add we need headspace gauges too.

Arisaka
09-20-2011, 4:20 PM
I'm cool with however many want to attend, I don't know roughly how many is a good number to allow everyone to complete their builds. I don't think that it will be effective with 30 people, everyone would be waiting to use the tools. Rust bluing is a process, it takes at least a week to do. It's not really a build party activity. Those who want to rust blue can look at the results on my build, see the product they need, and I can help them get started. It's a really sweet finish, I'm not sure I'd park now that I've blued. Any time is good, I know it's hard to wait when you have those parts staring at you. As long as it's on a weekend it should be cool. I'm in my busy season with work until the end of the year, but I'm certainly down to work on AKs on a weekend. Just let me know!

SmellOfCordite
09-21-2011, 8:23 AM
I have been reading up about parkerizing and it seems that we should be media blasting our parts before we do or it will not turn out well. I think we should have this first build party to just work on putting the AK's together, then we can think about having a parking party. I would want to blast my receiver first before I did any parking to get the most out of the process. What do you think?

Arisaka
09-21-2011, 9:39 AM
Agreed. It's really all about getting the reciever put together and the barrel pressed in. The rest (refinish the wood, blue/park/etc) doesn't really require the tools (press, welder, jigs) that make building your first AK cost prohibitive.

Alex$
09-21-2011, 1:39 PM
Depending on where this is hosted I might participate. (I have a hectic schedule)

I have everything for building, including home-made park tank and park solution. My tooling is all home made, so no fancy rivet jigs for me.

Arisaka
09-21-2011, 2:24 PM
^^^ Excellent! I think we are shooting for Redding.

realgreenfire
09-25-2011, 1:33 PM
i would love to catch future build parties! unfortunitly i wont get a day off work or school till sometime after xmas.. have fun guys!

Arisaka
09-25-2011, 4:30 PM
Well, are we still doing this? I'm open any weekend except the 8th of Oct. Someone pick a date, and we can start a thread if you wanna do it. If we don't have an actual party, any one of you guys are welcome to come by and use my press and welder anytime. Just PM me

SmellOfCordite
09-26-2011, 7:50 AM
I am down for Oct 15th or November 5th, either way mines getting built, its only when.

justin_5585
09-26-2011, 4:52 PM
If this build party is going to happen, I need to order a kit I think!

JB-Norcal
09-26-2011, 9:13 PM
11/5 works better for me, but then I'm flexible and not in a hurry.

SmellOfCordite
09-27-2011, 9:02 AM
If this build party is going to happen, I need to order a kit I think!

Order one! you could get a really nice Romy G kit on gunbroker for $300.00 buy it now price. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=252976784

Jeepers
09-27-2011, 4:04 PM
I just ordered up my Flat,Reinforcement Plate, Rivet Set, Center Support, and my FCG Pin Retaining Plate today from ak-builders so I will be good to go any Saturday (day off ...lol) as soon as the parts get here, not sure how long shipping from ak-builders takes ...

JB-Norcal
09-28-2011, 5:56 AM
I'll call curtis today and buy the guages to get this rolling, what else is a must have?

SmellOfCordite
09-28-2011, 8:14 AM
Only thing I can think of is a long rivet jig, barrel pin press fixture and support, other than that I think we are pretty much in business. Build party is tentatively scheduled for November fifth.

(to everyone)
Build party is going to be in Redding, we have two possible locations set up. The date (Nov 5th) will allow everyone to get their remaining parts or even get a parts kit. If I haven't talked to you yet, please PM me for details, this is going to be a smaller build party since it is the first time. If you are interested make sure to let myself or Arisaka know what your plans are, and what you are bringing. Please demill your kit before showing up to the BP. I will be starting a new thread later on today so I will link to this page when I get a chance.

Jeepers
09-28-2011, 10:55 AM
I'll call curtis today and buy the guages to get this rolling, what else is a must have?what gauges? headspace? if so cool ,but will there be enought hours in the day to be doing barrel population ? ... most of the parties i see want the barrel done already i assume to save time ... i dont have mine done yet but figure i can get the reciever out of the way and bug Arisaka later on down the road once i get my front end headspaced and populated to press out the barrel again and do the front trunnion and repress the barrel ...

Only thing I can think of is a long rivet jig, barrel pin press fixture and support, other than that I think we are pretty much in business. Build party is tentatively scheduled for November fifth.

(to everyone)
Build party is going to be in Redding, we have two possible locations set up. The date (Nov 5th) will allow everyone to get their remaining parts or even get a parts kit. If I haven't talked to you yet, please PM me for details, this is going to be a smaller build party since it is the first time. If you are interested make sure to let myself or Arisaka know what your plans are, and what you are bringing. Please demill your kit before showing up to the BP. I will be starting a new thread later on today so I will link to this page when I get a chance.
i am still im and can bring one of Ryan's flat bending jig,dremel,hand drill and misc punches and wrenches .. but ya we need to start a new thread and get a list going of who and what we all have to get this thing going :D ..

SmellOfCordite
09-28-2011, 4:25 PM
i am still im and can bring one of Ryan's flat bending jig,dremel,hand drill and misc punches and wrenches .. but ya we need to start a new thread and get a list going of who and what we all have to get this thing going :D ..

Word.

Jeepers
10-03-2011, 1:23 PM
my order from ak-builders came in today so i am ready any date we end up picking .....

SmellOfCordite
10-05-2011, 7:43 PM
my order from ak-builders came in today so i am ready any date we end up picking .....
Sounds good Nov 5 is the date we have settled on, I have been really busy so I haven't had time to post the new thread yet. Stay Tuned

novass
11-14-2011, 4:09 PM
Hay guys I need help gitting my barrel pin out do I use a hammer on the large pin or a shop press?