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rumblebee
07-07-2011, 12:30 PM
I have been attempting to find one powder that will suit my needs for the below, out to 500-600yrds for SoCal temp conditions-

Remington 700 XCR .308 (Tac long range) > 26" barrel > 1-12" twist (have been shooting 175 to 180gr)

Tikka T3 CTR .223 > 20" barrel > 1-9" twist (have been shooting 75-77gr and can go 80gr with this twist)

I know that Varget is heavily used for .308 (I believe), but started seeing reviews\etc that the 4895 covers a wider range of calibers?

I have my reloading supplies incoming (press\dies\etc) and want to start getting the actual reloading supplies now. Any input is appreciated!

Thanks

huckberry668
07-07-2011, 12:58 PM
25.5 grains of IMR4895 behind a 53gr .224 SMK ignited by a Rem 7.5 primer is a half MOA grouper out of most of my 223 bolt or autoloaders.

25.0 grains of IMR4895 behind a 69gr .224 SMK by the same primer does the same.

I know 4895 is used for 308 match loads but I found IMR4064 works better for my guns.

thevic
07-07-2011, 1:04 PM
IMR4064 and varget works great on my .308 and .223

thevic
07-07-2011, 1:05 PM
I use varget more though. It meters Great in the Lee (not so) perfect powder measure.

rumblebee
07-07-2011, 6:32 PM
Sounds like I'm headed to a good starting point with the IMR4895...but, I will also look into the IMR4064 and Varget....see what my rifles prefer.

Thank you :cool:

prc77
07-07-2011, 7:05 PM
I like the performance of 4895 with 40 - 55 gr What I do not like is how it meters. I found the H322 meters alot better and is just as good at the range.

Divernhunter
07-07-2011, 8:00 PM
Win748 has been my powder for years and has done well.

TimRB
07-07-2011, 8:35 PM
H4895 is slightly different from IMR, but I have been using it along with 77 SMK at 600 yards and can only complain about my own shooting.

Tim

hoffman259
07-08-2011, 9:18 AM
Check out ramshot tac. It works well for 223 & 308.

hk91666
07-08-2011, 10:48 AM
I use Re 10x for 223 and RE15 for 308

not-fishing
07-08-2011, 11:05 AM
An old reloader suggested H4895 instead of IMR to me because he said it meters better. smaller rat turds

It's all I've been using on my 7.5 x 55 Swiss, 30-06 for M1, .308, .243, .223, 6.5 x 55 Swede and any other size I can use it for. :)

FLIGHT762
07-08-2011, 12:00 PM
H4895 is slightly different from IMR, but I have been using it along with 77 SMK at 600 yards and can only complain about my own shooting.

Tim

An old reloader suggested H4895 instead of IMR to me because he said it meters better. smaller rat turds

It's all I've been using on my 7.5 x 55 Swiss, 30-06 for M1, .308, .243, .223, 6.5 x 55 Swede and any other size I can use it for. :)

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If you're going the 4895 route, I'd do the Hodgdon 4895. It will meter much better than IMR4895 and it is one of Hodgdon's "Extreme" powders (less sensitive to temperatures).

Varget and Benchmark will also work and both meter well.

rumblebee
07-08-2011, 12:24 PM
Gentlemen...thank you for the input. Being new to reloading, I am seeing that I should take into account how the powder measures....Right now I have IMR4064 and Hodgdon Varget in my cart…Just added H4895….These three should get me started (1lb each), can then go 8lbers once I’m able to verify what my rifle(s) like.

Have a Hornady loading manual that should be waiting for me by the time I get home as well (along with all my reloading equipment!)

Lots to read and learn :)

bruceflinch
07-08-2011, 3:18 PM
I use 4064. 24 grn for .223 & 42 grn for .308.
Are you going to seat the bullets @ SAAMI specs or custom depth per chamber?

rumblebee
07-08-2011, 5:17 PM
I'm a reloading noob :chris:...so, I'll be diving into manuals (Hornady manual this evening) and I will be seating @SAAMI specs starting out..maybe custom down the road!

:)

I use 4064. 24 grn for .223 & 42 grn for .308.
Are you going to seat the bullets @ SAAMI specs or custom depth per chamber?

Munk
07-08-2011, 9:14 PM
Gentlemen...thank you for the input. Being new to reloading, I am seeing that I should take into account how the powder measures....Right now I have IMR4064 and Hodgdon Varget in my cart…Just added H4895….These three should get me started (1lb each), can then go 8lbers once I’m able to verify what my rifle(s) like.

Have a Hornady loading manual that should be waiting for me by the time I get home as well (along with all my reloading equipment!)

Lots to read and learn :)

Heh, I'm sitting on a pound of each 4064 and 4895 that I use for my .30-30 and my .30-06 (not sure if respective off the top of my head... i always check my manuals and previous loads before I commit to that kind of thing lol). They've been doing great things for me. I prefer heading to local places to pick up my powders. I hit up Phillip's Wholesale, Ammo Brothers, and if desperate, Bass Pro. I've been able to haggle prices slightly at the first two, and this also helps avoid that damn hazmat fee. (If I up my rate of reloading, i'll probably be going the 8lb jug route... maybe if I actually go competitive with one of my pistols.)

rumblebee
07-08-2011, 11:50 PM
I have been checking a few differnet sites and reading any load data I can find (until I got manuals), and the IMR4895 came up as a "versatile powder" (handloads.com\etc). It's also listed in the Hornady manual I just rcv'd, along with Varget. Those three powders are still in my cart too;). I research things to death on first buys and they will stay there until I have read a little more manual...As far as Hornady manual goes, the Varget and H4895 are listed for .223 and .308, so It's looking like I could just start with Varget or H4895 (or buy both, it 40.00).

Thanks for the store listings below (so far, been buying from Cabelas)....tomorrow, I'll be checking out some local places to see what they have reloading wise. Unfortunately, I think my choices will be slim.

Heh, I'm sitting on a pound of each 4064 and 4895 that I use for my .30-30 and my .30-06 (not sure if respective off the top of my head... i always check my manuals and previous loads before I commit to that kind of thing lol). They've been doing great things for me. I prefer heading to local places to pick up my powders. I hit up Phillip's Wholesale, Ammo Brothers, and if desperate, Bass Pro. I've been able to haggle prices slightly at the first two, and this also helps avoid that damn hazmat fee. (If I up my rate of reloading, i'll probably be going the 8lb jug route... maybe if I actually go competitive with one of my pistols.)

Dark Mod
07-09-2011, 12:02 AM
I use IMR4895 in 30-30, 7.62x54r, and .223. It works great in many .30 caliber applications. Meters like crap cuz the granuals are so big, especially in a tiny case like .223.

I just like having 1 powder for most of my rifle applications