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FrankDux
04-07-2010, 6:05 PM
What do you guys like better?...I was just wondering got a p220 combat and love it feel/recoil .45 and all that, but I just bought p226 9mm BTFO...kinda having second thoughts for some reason. Only reason got 9 was cuz it's cheap to shoot...anyone else feel same way bout 9mm maybe it's cuz I got my eye on 1911 I dot know haha

b.faust
04-07-2010, 6:08 PM
I like anything I can get my hands on.

Just-in
04-07-2010, 6:11 PM
.45ACP is too expensive for me.

JTROKS
04-07-2010, 6:13 PM
For defense, I will take the 45 acp anytime. For banging around the range the 9mm is the best bang for the buck when it comes to shooting semi-auto center-fire pistols and carbines.

SixPointEight
04-07-2010, 6:18 PM
I like the .40, but you didn't ask that lol. Of the two I'd take 9mm

NiteQwill
04-07-2010, 6:20 PM
I like 54... that's 45 + 9 added together...

Synergy
04-07-2010, 6:27 PM
I like to keep my reloading simple. All handguns are .45 ACP

Joe
04-07-2010, 6:27 PM
Own both, prefer 9mm.

Mostly because its half the cost to shoot.

trickyvic
04-07-2010, 6:28 PM
For me the price difference is only $.10, so I've been shooting 45acp a bit more.

five.five-six
04-07-2010, 6:29 PM
:popcorn:

freonr22
04-07-2010, 6:31 PM
45 fan here

Rhatical
04-07-2010, 6:33 PM
Same price for reloads at my local range, so I prefer the .45acp. Also have a 9mm, and even if there were a larger difference in price I would definitely favor shooting the .45acp over the 9mm based on the felt recoil.

Synergy
04-07-2010, 6:34 PM
Own both, prefer 9mm.

Mostly because its half the cost to shoot.

Using http://handloads.com/calc/loadingCosts.asp

I used current prices off Powder Valley: Win LPP, 5.6 of W231, Hornady 230g RN plated with reused (free brass) it calculates .45acp for $9.78/50. If you shop smart you can get it cheaper.

FrankDux
04-07-2010, 6:44 PM
maybe i should start reloading....sell my BTFO and get a 1911....or maybe i should just get used to the 9mm....sheesh! ill let u guys know if i decide to sell the p226 haha

Exposed
04-07-2010, 6:47 PM
.45 ALL DAY LONG!!! By the way, that 1911 you been eyeing, BUY IT!!!! ;)

FrankDux
04-07-2010, 7:06 PM
Hahaha! I have to sell the p226 first!

joeyriv
04-07-2010, 7:50 PM
Chevy... er umm, pepsi... wait, what was the question again? OK seriously, I think I read this on here some time back: A 9mm may expand, but a .45 sure wont shrink!

Toast
04-07-2010, 7:57 PM
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6969/handgungelcomparisonz.jpg
There's not a huge difference between 9mm and .45.

I don't own a pistol yet but I shoot them as often as I can. I'd opt for 9mm for me, accuracy is the same shooting both but I can get rounds off much quicker with 9mm.

FrankDux
04-07-2010, 8:35 PM
Guess I started this thread cuz I was having buyer remorse...fav is 45 but I guess collection isn't complete with a 9mm. Thanks for your input guys

smittty
04-07-2010, 8:38 PM
45 is a lot more fun to shoot especially out of a 1911. I'd rather shoot 3 mags of 45acp thru my 1911 than 50 rounds thru my 9mm Glock.

But, if I had to carry a handgun on me I would carry my Glock.

If I could only have one it would be the 1911.

Rocket Man
04-07-2010, 8:39 PM
:yinyang: 45, shoot you must, youngling are you no longer, force will be chosen, perse strings- do not carry. :43:

BLD
04-07-2010, 9:00 PM
For SD, CCW and punching large holes in paper a .45 1911 is what does it for me. On the other hand when I shooting 3 gun matches I use a 9mm. What can I say I'm a sucker for quick follow up shots and buying ammo cheaper than I can reload it for.

With that said I am currently saving my peanuts for a new 1911...in .45 of course :cool2:.

zod
04-07-2010, 9:50 PM
45 convert myself. Nothing wrong with 9mm, plus it is definitely cheaper. I will start reloading soon, until then saving my brass and doing my research.

Sam
04-07-2010, 10:20 PM
.45 acp, no question.

Colt-45
04-07-2010, 10:24 PM
What do you guys like better?...I was just wondering got a p220 combat and love it feel/recoil .45 and all that, but I just bought p226 9mm BTFO...kinda having second thoughts for some reason. Only reason got 9 was cuz it's cheap to shoot...anyone else feel same way bout 9mm maybe it's cuz I got my eye on 1911 I dot know haha

I agree with you, I'm a 45 guy and want one 9mm just because that ammo is so cheap.

Echidin
04-07-2010, 10:27 PM
Tried many times, but I just can't get into shooting the 45 ACP as much as the 9mm. I'll stick with the 9.

socalshooting
04-07-2010, 11:21 PM
Havent shot .45 for awhile...too pricey and I don't reload. I don't mind using either for HD though.

Black Majik
04-07-2010, 11:22 PM
I have .45 taste, but 9mm budget.

Synergy
04-07-2010, 11:37 PM
I have .45 taste, but 9mm budget.
I have a .45 taste I cant get rid of, hence the 7000+ empty cases sitting in my garage! ;)

bryan28
04-07-2010, 11:52 PM
I like the .40, but you didn't ask that lol. Of the two I'd take 9mm

I like the .45's straight back push. 9mm is also a fun to shoot round. But I never got around to liking the .40's snappy recoil.

For defense, either one works. Shoot the one you can afford. Like the OP I have a P220 in .45 but I also have a .22 conversion slide so I can practice for cheaper.

powaybob
04-08-2010, 6:23 AM
Another .45 guy here. I also reload to keep costs reasonable. It hurts though when you go to a place like Front Sight that requires new ammo. I have an XD, two 1911s, and a Ruger P345. The XD is hands down my favorite. 9mm has never given me a good impression of stopping power. It seems to me like shooting a .22. With the .45 I feel like projecting some power down range.

evidens83
04-08-2010, 6:27 AM
I like and have both! I shoot 9mm more often though because of the obvious price differences.

Legasat
04-08-2010, 6:57 AM
I have both.
I use both.
I like both.

CornFedWB
04-08-2010, 7:08 AM
Both equal.

.45 big nasty americana kick ***, but expensive.
9mm cheap, fun, common, but less knock down power.

usctrojan
04-08-2010, 7:09 AM
I have .45 taste, but 9mm budget.

Amen... So I shoot .45 for the love of the .45... and .22 so I get more time on the trigger.

Call_me_Tom
04-08-2010, 7:12 AM
I have 9mm autos as they are cheaper to practice with. I'll shoot close too 200rds at the range & around 500rds over the course of a weekend on BLM land.

Bug Splat
04-08-2010, 7:34 AM
^^^^^ WTF?!?!?! :eek:

I'm a 45 fan myself. Feels better than 9mm.

CornFedWB
04-08-2010, 7:39 AM
dude thats so nasty

SixPointEight
04-08-2010, 8:22 AM
9mm may expand, but .45 never shrinks!!! :eek:

I've always seen that as a nice way to say, "while the evidence indicates modern ammo in 9mm, .40 and .45 perform similarly on human tissue,(barriers is another question) I refuse to accept that conclusion and choose .45 because it's bigger" lol.

For a range gun, if I didn't reload, it'd be 9mm. Since I do, I'd choose .40 or .45, and I chose .40 for now.

Eventually you'll shoot it all.

CEDaytonaRydr
04-08-2010, 8:25 AM
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6969/handgungelcomparisonz.jpg



Notice that they didn't put 10mm on this comparisson. ;)

FrankDux
04-08-2010, 8:27 AM
Another .45 guy here. I also reload to keep costs reasonable. It hurts though when you go to a place like Front Sight that requires new ammo. I have an XD, two 1911s, and a Ruger P345. The XD is hands down my favorite. 9mm has never given me a good impression of stopping power. It seems to me like shooting a .22. With the .45 I feel like projecting some power down range.

haaa i live in poway...hey where do you get all your reload stuff...i totally agree with what you said about the .22

RedFord150
04-08-2010, 8:30 AM
I sold my 9mm several years ago. I now own 2 45's. My favorite 1911 is my DW PM7.
For HD, I keep a revolver loaded with .38+P.

Average Joe American
04-08-2010, 8:38 AM
I consolidated my caliber to 9mm. I sold off my 357 magnum, 38 spl, 40 cal, and 45 acp.

I am not rich and stocking up on all these different types of ammo along with barely getting any quality trigger time on them just wasnt working for me. I learned that I am not a gun collector. Having guns to show off on the internet and to my range buddies isnt important as I thought it was.

Owning 2 or 3 guns (subcompact, compact and full size in the same caliber) that I can afford to shoot alot and have lots of muscle memory with is fine with me.

Plus I have 100% faith in bonded +P JHP 9mm rounds. Being able to put those in the head and chest area reliably under stress or while running & gunning is fine with me.

usctrojan
04-08-2010, 8:48 AM
^^^^Great now I need somebody to fund my 10mm habit...

Toast
04-08-2010, 8:49 AM
Notice that they didn't put 10mm on this comparisson. ;)

Haha yea, 10mm is pretty awesome.

maschronic
04-08-2010, 8:51 AM
i own 9mm, 40, 357, 5.7x28, 45, 10mm, and S&W 500. besides 5.7x38 and the 500, i reload the other calibers.

before reloading, i used to favor 9mm because it was cheaper. now, the price difference is so little that i shoot the 40, 10mm, or 45 more often.

do your self a favor and get into reloading. :)

RedFord150
04-08-2010, 9:27 AM
...Having guns to show off on the internet and to my range buddies isnt important as I thought it was...

I call BS on this!
Showing off to anonymous internet fans and range buddies has to be one of the best reasons to own guns ;-).
Besides, it is a lot cheaper than buying the Bentley Continental GT Convertible for 'Bragging rights'...

tacticalcity
04-08-2010, 9:36 AM
For me it is not about the money. It is about how quickly fatigue sets in. I like to make a full day of my monthly (sometimes bi-monthly) trips to the range, and unlike a lot of shooters I don't just take my time between shots and dilly dally. I work on drills I learned at Front Sight. I average around 200-250 rounds per session. It would be more but I include a lot of dry practice as needed to clean up my shooting. With a 9mm I get through the training and it is productive. With anything heavier than a 9mm fatigue sets in, and I do not get a full day in. This problem is amplified when going to a 4-day school where you are shooting 800-1000 rounds in 4 days.

So while a 45 would be more effective with regards to stopping power, I would not be as effective with it, because I would not be able to train as thoroughly with it.

timmyb21
04-08-2010, 9:38 AM
.45 for me. Nothing wrong with 9mm.

powaybob
04-08-2010, 9:59 AM
Tactical City,

I believe you should train with what you work with, so I shoot .45. I was just at Front Sight last week and finally attained graduate level in the two day skills builder. If you have had the four day handgun, that is the course to take. They provide a lot of tips and drills you don't otherwise get in the other two day or four day classes.

SandBlastedSkin
04-08-2010, 10:25 AM
Simple answer to a simple question. .45 :cool:

1911Operator
04-08-2010, 10:27 AM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/boss_406/forty-five_thumb.jpg

KillZone45
04-08-2010, 10:39 AM
I have an XD in .45acp. I could shoot more often if I could afford it, but I will be shooting reloads sometime this year. I would rather wait and save the $ I would spend on .45acp ammo and put that towards the reloading fund. I wouldn't mind having an XDm in 9mm though!

Bobotheclown
04-08-2010, 11:10 AM
I pretty much shoot whichever I have ammo for. Both makes a hole in paper.

socalshooting
04-08-2010, 11:26 AM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/boss_406/forty-five_thumb.jpg

They do make a .50ae, but for home defense, just because you can doesn't mean you should.

usctrojan
04-08-2010, 12:14 PM
They do make a .50ae, but for home defense, just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Being serious here... I am partial to being able to do a follow up shot when the dude is whacked out on drugs. I have shot the 50 A.E. and don't feel confident that I can train with that caliber to the point where I can do followups shots. .45 and 9 I can do follow ups. I have never done a 10mm but from what I understand that caliber would not serve the average man well in a HD scenario. I would still need to try to say with any confidence... I just don't have a budget for even trying. If I need a larger bullet I know I can do quick followups with a 12 gauge 2 3/4 inch slug. I know its not a handgun... but I know my abilities and what tool I need for what job.

plankowner
04-08-2010, 12:42 PM
I have both but do prefer .45 over nine ,bit more expensive but I do likes my .45, but also wouldn't feel bad if all I had was a good 9mm by my side.

Black Majik
04-08-2010, 12:43 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/boss_406/forty-five_thumb.jpg

Hmm... looks like a Springfield 1911. :D

1lostinspace
04-08-2010, 12:46 PM
I used to use a 45 for HD but after testing and testing I was able to shoot more accurate with more hits on target in a shorter amount of time with the 9mm. I rather hit him twice with a 9mm then once with a 45. And regardless what they tell you the stopping power is about the same, shot placement is the key. I know 2 different people shot with a 45 and both were hit center mass and lived!! the bottom line is a hole in heart is a hole in your heart no matter the caliber.

I use 127+P or RBCD 60gr when indoors. I have had to shoot deer on the side of the road hit by cars and can tell you that both rounds especially the RBCD killed them insistently!!

1911Operator
04-08-2010, 1:31 PM
They do make a .50ae, but for home defense, just because you can doesn't mean you should.

yeah i know, a bit over kill, might aswell put out some tripwire , that is attached to land mines that are inbeded in the walls of you hallways. lol

eccvets
04-08-2010, 1:45 PM
why the hell do people say 9mm is cheap to shoot now adays? its neither cheap nor is it easy to find locally anywhere!

gamename
04-08-2010, 3:18 PM
I once had the honor of speaking with a man who was veteran of Iwo Jima.

He loved the M1 Garand, hated the M1 Carbine, and said this about the 1911/.45:
"...if you hit someone, even on the thumb, they're goin' down..."

That was good enough endorsement for me. :)

Scratch705
04-08-2010, 3:21 PM
why the hell do people say 9mm is cheap to shoot now adays? its neither cheap nor is it easy to find locally anywhere!

still cheaper than other calibers. short of .22 but then again nothing beats .22lr is terms of cost (outside of reloading.)

glockmeister
04-08-2010, 5:20 PM
I own both. Recently picked up a kimber custom II for HD. Now I get to have some fun with the 9mm. By this, I mean replacing the factory glock parts for aftermarket. Springs, trigger parts, etc. I use the 9mm for ipsc now. Anyways, depends on what you want it for. 45 is expensive. I am still trying to get over the 20 bucks a box for 45. I would reload, but no space as I live in a tiny apartment.

eccvets
04-08-2010, 5:29 PM
you can get 100 rounds of new WWB .45acp for 32 bucks in kentucky. In cali your lucky to find 50 rounds of 9mm for 16.99 plus tax which is 10% !!!!!!

eccvets
04-08-2010, 5:30 PM
still cheaper than other calibers. short of .22 but then again nothing beats .22lr is terms of cost (outside of reloading.)



so your saying im wrong or right?

Either way, your right as .22lr is only 500 rounds for 20 bucks, nothing really beats that and you do get a bit of recoil and some accuracy.

Hipmatt
04-08-2010, 5:54 PM
you can get 100 rounds of new WWB .45acp for 32 bucks in kentucky. In cali your lucky to find 50 rounds of 9mm for 16.99 plus tax which is 10% !!!!!!

You can get 9mm 50 rounds for 9.99 at walmart or 250 rounds for 44.99

FrankDux
04-08-2010, 6:45 PM
You can get 9mm 50 rounds for 9.99 at walmart or 250 rounds for 44.99

**** WHAT WALMART IS THAT???? I found some 100 rnd WWB at walmart for 23 bucks..which isnt bad either.

KillZone45
04-09-2010, 3:31 PM
**** WHAT WALMART IS THAT???? I found some 100 rnd WWB at walmart for 23 bucks..which isnt bad either.

Good deal if you ask me!

CZlover
04-09-2010, 7:59 PM
.45acp gives me good impression of knock down power...

9mm gives me more time @ the range...Although .22lr gives more :)

If I have to choose between the two, I'd go for 9mm JHP for SD/HD...

Nevertheless, 10mm is always my favorite round for HD / SD :cool2:

Hipmatt
04-09-2010, 9:56 PM
See my thread here about 9mm at Wal Mart.. PICS INCLUDED
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=289069

I am sorry, I was wrong about the 250 round price, it is 51.99, NOT 44.99. I was going off of info a friend gave me. However, 50 rounds of federal 9mm for 9.47 is .19 per round!

They didn't have any .45acp to compare with..

ledman
04-09-2010, 9:58 PM
9mm here...and .40S&W is my alternate, a little cheaper than .45ACP.
I like .45 but do not own any so...I stik with my nine's

FieldsofFire
04-09-2010, 10:57 PM
After owning multiple guns chambered in 9mm, .40S&W, and .45ACP, I prefer .45ACP. It does hurt when it comes time to buy ammo or supplies to load it though, it is considerably more expensive than shooting 9mm.

Call_me_Tom
04-10-2010, 5:55 AM
More fuel for the fire...I like 45 but I've never used one in combat. I have used 9mm and it is effective. Plus, 9mm can be found world wide. Globally it has to be the most popular pistol round. 9mm has killed a lot of people, no denying that fact.

rag9393
04-10-2010, 6:12 PM
I like the 9mm. Cheaper and that means I'll get to shoot more.

Cokebottle
04-10-2010, 6:38 PM
why the hell do people say 9mm is cheap to shoot now adays? its neither cheap nor is it easy to find locally anywhere!
+1

Haven't seen WWB at Wally World in 3 years.

Ammunitiontogo?
$40 difference between identical orders for 45 and for .38spl.

.45 is expensive, but 9mm isn't cheap anymore.

MilSim
04-10-2010, 6:45 PM
BOTH!

CZlover
04-10-2010, 6:49 PM
+1

Haven't seen WWB at Wally World in 3 years.

Ammunitiontogo?
$40 difference between identical orders for 45 and for .38spl.

.45 is expensive, but 9mm isn't cheap anymore.

True...That's why I had to go back to reloading my own ammo. Reloading cost of a 9mm is only about 2cents cheaper than a .45acp...

Better keep stacking up reloading components for the coming years...:)

tbhracing
04-10-2010, 7:06 PM
I have all 9mm. They function well and do the job.

kevario
04-10-2010, 7:19 PM
both will do the job one will just be more $

walter
04-10-2010, 9:29 PM
i love 9mm because i think it's a good alrounder. 9mm is my SHTF round. but, 45 is way more fun to shoot and if the two cost the same I would shoot 45 exclusively at the range.

arfan66
04-10-2010, 10:31 PM
I enjoy both calibers. I also reload to minimize cost/train more.....For HD, shot placement,shot placement,shot placement. 'nuf said. ;)

bsg
04-11-2010, 12:14 AM
i own several w german sigs in both calibers mentioned. i like both calibers but shoot best with my old P226. although my w german P225 may be the most comfortable handgun i have ever held, i shoot best with an old P226 than any other handgun i have ever shot.... if shooting in .45 ACP than i believe the older P220 is the ticket for balance, comfort (ergonomics) and all around reliability. i also like 1st generation glocks but a long time ago i made the decision of which way to go....

-Brady-

limitdown
04-11-2010, 1:40 AM
I shoot both, but shoot the 9mm a lot more because ammo is about half the price.
I reload the .45

Gryff
04-11-2010, 12:37 PM
I prefer .45acp for home defense, but 9mm for target/competition/recreational shooting.

If you can only get one gun right now, 9mm is probably the better place to start. Perfectly adequate for self-defense if you get some of the better ammo available.

3GunFunShooter
04-11-2010, 4:54 PM
+1 on what Gryff wrote. Can't argue with expert.

j1133s
04-11-2010, 5:37 PM
What do you guys like better?...I was just wondering got a p220 combat and love it feel/recoil .45 and all that, but I just bought p226 9mm BTFO...kinda having second thoughts for some reason. Only reason got 9 was cuz it's cheap to shoot...anyone else feel same way bout 9mm maybe it's cuz I got my eye on 1911 I dot know haha


I 'm just the opposite , I prefer the snappy recoil of a 9mm over the gentle but persistently long recoil of the .45acp.

ibanezfoo
04-28-2010, 11:59 AM
This really isn't even a good question because the answer is so simple. I have one for each hand. :)

Super Spy
04-28-2010, 12:06 PM
.45 for defense, 9 or .40 for run and gun.....10mm for hunting sidearm...

NotSoFast
04-28-2010, 12:08 PM
I like the .40 S&W with a 9mm conversion barrel for inexpensive practice.

quig
04-28-2010, 12:18 PM
http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af35/lafdquig/f64959fe.jpg

hk404me
04-28-2010, 12:52 PM
I also am fortunate enough to have both 9mm and 45ACP. With the 45ACP you know that you have fired a round. The 9mm is MUCH easier to handle. I enjoy shooting the 45, but as mentioned before it is more expensive. Someday I hope to get into reloading, but for now, I shoot whatever Wal-Mart has in stock.

hk404me

rgs1975
04-28-2010, 1:38 PM
I like shooting .45 more than 9mm. Reloading helps me keep the costs down.

winnre
04-28-2010, 1:41 PM
45 because I don't pee sitting down.

localguy
04-28-2010, 2:13 PM
BOTH! The P226 in 9mm is fine and all, but I enjoy playing with 1911's from time to time. .45 ACP has very manageable recoil.

ilkhan
04-28-2010, 2:25 PM
I just bought an XD45. So that answers that. And it'll share ammo with my next gun, a 1911. :)

I do, however, plan on getting several 9mm pistols for smaller guns.

RudyN
04-28-2010, 2:48 PM
I have both, however the .45s outnumber the 9mm by three to one and soon to be four to one when I get my XD45.

den888
04-28-2010, 4:37 PM
For HD/SD purposes, a 9mm, because of the higher capacity...

IrishPirate
05-20-2010, 9:42 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3406/4617126486_f7cd9b75fd_o.jpg

goathead
05-20-2010, 10:02 PM
more of a 40 then 45 guy

fsx
05-20-2010, 10:03 PM
223:cool:

thawein1856
05-20-2010, 10:06 PM
Started with a 9mm, still have it but gets shot about half as much as my .45 (1911 and picking up a P220 soon). Started reloading and starting with .45. Just feels better.

BRO
05-20-2010, 10:23 PM
Have a few in each caliber; I prefer to shoot a 45 but I also enjoy the 9mm's. My go to hand gun for defense is and will remain my TRS 45, but I would empty my 12 gage first :).

X-caliber
05-20-2010, 10:29 PM
Man I miss these......

http://nugun.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/winchester_white_box_45acp.jpg?w=302&h=402

damndave
05-20-2010, 10:32 PM
I have and like both. Only caliber gun I refuse to get is a 40. If you want more than a 9mm, get a 45

POLICESTATE
05-20-2010, 10:45 PM
45 in my right hand, 9 in my left.

advocatusdiaboli
05-20-2010, 11:06 PM
.45 is accomplished and revered but old and slow. It's historic, powerful, and I wouldn't under estimate it. But it's a dinosaur. It was great in the 1900s, accomplished great things then and some when all foes had no armor or modern weaponry. But in these high-tech modern times of high velocity in which we live? LEOs are moving away from it as fast as they can. So is the military.The SEALs went back to 9 mm for a reason--they wouldn't abandon the 45 if it made a difference in their mission effectiveness. The .45 doesn't penetrate barriers like automobiles well even 9mm beats it let alone .40 or .357 SIG. . And that is bad news for LEOS and military in suburban combat. Tradition might make you feel good but it ain't squat if it cannot carry the day in the circumstance in which you find yourself. And .45 cannot any longer in modern combat. I'd don't use .45 in my auto pistols. It's either .40 S&W or the kick-a*s .357 SIG. 9 mm? The SEALs use it now so it cannot be bad. Trying to fit in with NATO. But no thanks for me. I'll take .40 S&W or .357 SIG. I use .380 ACP only when I need a small caliber for concealment--I understand the loss in stopping power. It's a compromise.

Ultimate
05-20-2010, 11:59 PM
I don't have a favorite caliber but then again Ive only shot .40, 9mm, and 38 special handguns.

NSR500
05-21-2010, 12:02 AM
I had a trip to the range earlier today and brought two 9s and a 45. Specific to me, I enjoy shooting the 45 more. As for today, the 45 also grouped better than the 9s.

Ranger20
05-21-2010, 12:39 AM
I DONT have a SPRAY and PRAY Mentality...

But I do like the capacity a 9mm offers over the usual 45acp pistol I own.

Jimmy310
05-21-2010, 12:47 AM
I like 9 mainly for capacity...when i goto the range i mainly practice headshots. When the zombies come, the state of california will be glad i assembled my P226's 20rd rebuild kits. :chris:

tonelar
05-21-2010, 1:02 AM
It's odd to call the .45 "old" when the 9mm is actually a few years "older"

I prefer my PM9 for an SD weapon, while my nightstand gun is a W German 220. I shoot about the same in either caliber. I own 1911s in both calibers as well.

Gallows
05-21-2010, 1:23 AM
Not sure if this was mentioned because I skimmed through it. But IMHO I would prefer a .45 ACP to 9mm just because of California's magazine capacity law. Might as well get more bang for your buck.

Richie Caketown
05-21-2010, 1:48 AM
45 in my right hand, 9 in my left.

This... i do this ... ^^^^

However i like 9mm for plinking but 45 for HD

axhoaxho
05-21-2010, 2:05 AM
In the old days before the ten-rounds magazine restriction, I favored the 9mm because I could, for example, have 17+1 in my Glock 19.

Nowadays, since CA have the ten-rounds limitation, I favored the .45ACP in my Glock 30.

Regards,

ChrisO
05-21-2010, 7:49 AM
^^^ +100. I prefer 9mm. I do like .45 ACP and I believe everyone needs to own a 1911 just like I believe everyone should own a garand. I don't have the money to fund a nice 1911 yet but one day I will. It will most likely be a range gun. For HD I have a glock 17 and a remington 870 sometimes I get lazy and don't feel like pulling the shotgun out of the safe... well actually a lot of the time... I like my 9mm's I'm not limited to FMJ ammo so I don't have a problem relying on my 9mm. It shoots sweet and gets rounds on target quick. I reload and buy factory but I still like to have pistols in one caliber so I can stock up on ammo. I also have a .357 blackhawk convertible with a 9mm cylinder and thats pretty fun :) .

jmv7000
05-21-2010, 8:35 AM
I'm surprised it hasn't been said: FORTAY!!!! :)

In all honesty, for reals this time: Forty! Ammunition is bountiful, abundant, and I think the best of both (9mm and .45) worlds!

epic4444
05-21-2010, 9:57 AM
I like 54... that's 45 + 9 added together...

+1 I own both, trust both and shoot both well. Honestly wen talking 45 vs 9 it's more the weapon platform that caliber I think.

DaveFJ80
05-21-2010, 10:28 AM
Same here on the high cap mag issue, as I actually have both a G21 and G17 high cap mag (G17 has a +2 floor plate). So in reality I can hold 13+1 in .45 and 19+1 in 9mm. If I'm using JHP HST ammo, I might as well use my 9mm and have almost double the amount of ammo available in one mag. This would be for my HD use, as range use won't matter since you can reload at your leisure.

If I want a larger caliber than my 9mm for HD, I have my Moss Mav shotgun loaded with 00 buckshot sitting next to my Glock.

tuna quesadilla
05-21-2010, 11:18 AM
.45.....


GAP ;)

Just-in
05-21-2010, 2:27 PM
9mm.
I can't afford to shoot .45acp

Cokebottle
05-21-2010, 3:24 PM
The .45 doesn't penetrate barriers like automobiles well even 9mm beats it let alone .40 or .357 SIG.
From personal experience, I have to disagree.

My buddy and I were shooting at paper hanging on a piece of 4 foot galvanized steel culvert pipe that someone had cut down to 3ft and laid on it's side to use as a fire pit.

Every one of my 50 or so 9mm rounds penetrated the first side behind the paper, and left a nice round dent in the opposite side. We picked up most of the slugs from the ashes just below the dents... they didn't even have enough energy remaining to bounce out of the firepit.

Every one of his 45 rounds went clean through both sides of that pipe.

Jason.lee740
05-21-2010, 3:47 PM
I'm a 9mm guy using +P rounds. :D

hayesman76
05-21-2010, 4:20 PM
For defense, I will take the 45 acp anytime. For banging around the range the 9mm is the best bang for the buck when it comes to shooting semi-auto center-fire pistols and carbines.

For self-defense, no doubt go with the .45.

Just yesterday I read a news report about a woman in Orange County who shot a dog with a 9mm and the pooch was only injured, not killed (admittedly, the report didn't say where the dog was hit.)

But there was another published report in the past couple of months to the effect that U.S. police departments who had been issuing 9mm's for years are now switching to .45's, precisely because the smaller round is often proving inneffective against some dogs, specifically, pit bulls.

hayesman76
05-21-2010, 4:23 PM
I like the .40, but you didn't ask that lol. Of the two I'd take 9mm

And I know the original poster didn't mention it, but I hear the 10mm is a VERY nice improvement over the .40! In fact, the FBI apparently considered making it their issue round for agents.

cindynles
05-21-2010, 4:25 PM
Placement is King caliber is Queen....... Practice, practice, practice then practice some more.

SixPointEight
05-21-2010, 4:26 PM
And I know the original poster didn't mention it, but I hear the 10mm is a VERY nice improvement over the .40! In fact, the FBI apparently considered making it their issue round for agents.

I think you might be confused. It used to be what they used, but apparently there was recoil concerns, and so they went with the .40 instead. At least that's the story I've always heard.

teflondog
05-21-2010, 5:03 PM
I would only shoot .45 if cost weren't an issue. I prefer the slow recoil of it and I like that it makes a bigger hole.

Donk310
05-21-2010, 5:29 PM
9 mike mike

ChrisO
05-21-2010, 5:33 PM
I think you might be confused. It used to be what they used, but apparently there was recoil concerns, and so they went with the .40 instead. At least that's the story I've always heard.

During testing they found the grip to be to big for female agents and agents with smaller hands to be able to effectively tame the recoil of the 10mm round thus went with .40.

cindynles
05-21-2010, 9:29 PM
Isn't the 40SW a cut down 10mm? I know that S&W makes a revolver that shoots both.

Cokebottle
05-21-2010, 9:35 PM
Isn't the 40SW a cut down 10mm? I know that S&W makes a revolver that shoots both.
Yup.

And .357Sig is a .40 casing necked down to a .357 projectile.

11Z50
05-21-2010, 9:50 PM
I like both 9mm and .45, depending on application. If I want lots of rounds available, I go for the 9mm and shoot double taps if needed. If I'm not concerned about having lots of rounds, but want power, I take the .45.

I don't see much need for the .40, which offers less capacity than the 9mm, and less power than the .45

The 9mm is universally available and less expensive that most other rounds. Sure, it's not a death-ray, but it will do the job. It's also pleasant to shoot and pistols in 9mm can be had in a very compact package.

tacticalniko
05-22-2010, 12:34 AM
I am a female of small stature and have both .40 and .45 cal's. Out of the two I prefer the .45 cal hands down. I seem to get better groups with the .45 punching 2" holes within the 9 ring, where as with the .40...I'm all over the place. So I'm getting rid of the 40's. I love my trips to the range but the cost of feeding my .45's is ridiculous. I'm thinking of getting into reloading or giving the 9mm a try.

pyromensch
05-22-2010, 7:15 PM
those of you that shoot, and don't reload, do you collect your brass? if you do, let me know, i would be willing to buy it off of you. including shipping, of course.

pyromensch
05-22-2010, 7:19 PM
I think you might be confused. It used to be what they used, but apparently there was recoil concerns, and so they went with the .40 instead. At least that's the story I've always heard.

actually, the fbi adopted the 10mm, in a downloaded version, which s&w and winchester used to make the 40 cal, ammunition, gun combo which CHP adopted outright

Jerry X
05-22-2010, 10:54 PM
9mm is all you need. I won't ever buy a .40 or .45 cal

ilkhan
05-22-2010, 11:22 PM
FBI wanted to use down-loaded 10mm. S&W decided they could make that amount of power from a smaller case, and developed it in about 6 months or so. FBI then adopted the .40S&W. Thats the way I heard it, anyway.

Greg-Dawg
05-23-2010, 5:02 AM
Fotay!!! Glock Fotay.

Best of both worlds.

MAC USMC
05-23-2010, 12:55 PM
The DOD does not purchase firearms based solely on warriors' preferences and never will. The 9mm is in now due to compatability with friendly nations firearms, purchase costs, availabiity, weight-to-round ratios, training simplicity, sound suppression, and other factors. Law enforcement SWAT teams commonly use and prefer the .45ACP for obvious reasons. The .45 will continue to be in service for many years, especially with the bullet designs available today.

As a retired police officer and former Marine I have enjoyed shooting and owning a wide variety of firearms. I still like the .45 as a heavy hitter, but I am much better with my
Sig226 for overall accuracy and follow-up shots.

jaydog
05-23-2010, 4:12 PM
The DOD does not purchase firearms based solely on warriors' preferences and never will. The 9mm is in now due to compatability with friendly nations firearms, purchase costs, availabiity, weight-to-round ratios, training simplicity, sound suppression, and other factors. Law enforcement SWAT teams commonly use and prefer the .45ACP for obvious reasons. The .45 will continue to be in service for many years, especially with the bullet designs available today.

As a retired police officer and former Marine I have enjoyed shooting and owning a wide variety of firearms. I still like the .45 as a heavy hitter, but I am much better with my
Sig226 for overall accuracy and follow-up shots.

So, in California, if you had a choice of ONLY 10 rounds, 9mm or .45, I am betting you would take the .45. I have talked to many seasoned guys that would much prefer the .45 shot for shot.

The only benefit I see for 9mm in California is concealment.

Ding126
05-23-2010, 5:28 PM
9mm to practic with 75% and 45acp 25% ( same models )

advocatusdiaboli
05-23-2010, 5:41 PM
Fotay!!! Glock Fotay.
Best of both worlds.

Of _those_ two worlds yes. And I buy .40 as the basic caliber in my pistols. But I buy .357 SIG barrels too--it packs the punch of a .357 Magnum with the 24 grain bullet and that outperforms the .45, .40, and 9 mm. But at reduced barrel life ;-)

DaveFJ80
05-23-2010, 8:59 PM
This isn't directed towards jaydog, but just going off of the points he made.


So, in California, if you had a choice of ONLY 10 rounds, 9mm or .45, I am betting you would take the .45. I have talked to many seasoned guys that would much prefer the .45 shot for shot.

Since most people in CA only have a 10rd capacity, the .45 would be the better caliber to get, depending on what you plan on using it for (I would assume for HD, as that's what my guns are primarily for.... that and fun time at the range). But then that brings up the point where .45 ammo costs more than 9mm, almost double in some cases, so a lot of people like to say practice with the 9mm at the range since it's cheaper, and keep the .45 ready for HD. But in reality, they shoot completely different and if you don't practice with the .45 ammo, then what's the point as it won't feel the same and your shooting won't be the same as the 9mm if you need to use it in a real HD situation. But that's another issue altogether, but still valid when in the 9mm vs .45 caliber discussions.


The only benefit I see for 9mm in California is concealment.

Also another benefit is if you obtained mags before the 2000 ban. I actually have 9mm & .45 Glock mags from previous guns back in the 90's. And going off of that, and from what I mentioned earlier in this thread, I would rather have my 19+1 9mm setup with HST ammo instead of using a bigger HST round in a 13+1 .45 setup. But that's my personal perference.

RudyN
05-23-2010, 9:09 PM
I have one 9mm and four .45s. Which one do you think I like best? As far as I am concerned they only real reason to shoot 9mm is that it costs less for range time.

SoCal Gunner
05-24-2010, 9:33 AM
Do you guys like Synthetic Oil or Dino Oil?

j/k - Threads like these don't have a right answer but, if kept civil, can be good reads.

What about the 5.7x28mm? Ok, Ok, I'll stop now.

Cokebottle
05-24-2010, 5:53 PM
Do you guys like Synthetic Oil or Dino Oil?
You tell me:

http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/oil.xls

I'm even picky about my synthetics after running these tests ;)

iddie
05-24-2010, 6:02 PM
Gotta own both! 9mm for cheap plinking fun. And .45 for the business!

Muttley
05-24-2010, 7:24 PM
Comparison of gun calibers going through ballistics gel. Pretty funny too...

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Mutt