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Cyc Wid It
03-30-2010, 2:14 PM
I know the Sig 228/229 debate has already been hashed out multiple times, but I just checked the roster again and noticed that the 228R is on there until Fall and it got me to thinking...

A lot of the older discussions centered around where they were made/when they were produced and the fact that the 229 slide is designed for .40. So given all that, I'm assuming that the 228R's aren't some older 228's that have been hidden away all these years, so what gives? Are there any major differences other than "feel" or personal preference?

In other related news... anybody seen a 228R at a Bay Area shop? Maybe I just need to fondle one.

himurax13
03-30-2010, 2:21 PM
I believe the P228R's were made up until last year until they were discontinued. The P228 has a stamped slide and the P229 has a Billet Stainless slide. I hear the non-railed models feel and balance better than the railed ones.

Cyc Wid It
03-30-2010, 2:28 PM
Thanks for the heads up, hmmm so just the slide design? I figure if I end up shooting either enough that there's a failure I can afford to buy another. As far as non-railed vs railed... I figure that's an issue that won't change depending on the model.

aca72
03-30-2010, 2:32 PM
If you want 9mm, get the P228 or P228R, not the P229/R/9mm.
The P229/R shines with .40 SW.

Cyc Wid It
03-30-2010, 2:43 PM
Don't suppose you've seen a 228R in any Bay Area shops have you? I've seen for sale from various out of state vendors for just shy of $800, which probably comes to an OTD price of $925 or so.

savasyn
03-30-2010, 2:45 PM
If you want 9mm, get the P228 or P228R, not the P229/R/9mm.
The P229/R shines with .40 SW.

What he said. While I've never shot a 228, I have over 10,000 rounds through my 229 in .40 and it's outstanding! I have a Bar-Sto 9mm barrel for it and while it shoots fine, it just never felt right.

My 226 in 9mm feels correct, so I have to assume that the 228 in 9mm feels correct as well.

I've been thinking about picking up one of the police return 228s that I see around. That platform just works for me I guess :)

POLICESTATE
03-30-2010, 2:50 PM
I have a 228 made in West Germany and it shoots like a champ, round count is well over 1000 by now (I never used to keep track and I'm the 2nd owner on this one). I don't know what the difference is with the 228R.

Anyway, no malfunctions in the 10 years I've had it. Ergonomics are good, eats 9mm like M&M's, solid little pistol.

Ranger20
03-30-2010, 3:01 PM
It's more personal pref. I have a 228 non railed pistol.. I choose it over the Rail 228R. or 229. To me the 229 is heavy and not as well balanced. I found this to be less of a factor with the 228R. The real weight diff is in the block milled stainless slide of the 229 vs the stamped carbon slide of the 228.


I've heard the 229R frame is what is being used in the 228R. The benefit there is you may be able to upgrade the 228R to DAK if you want which was never offered. Check this out with SIG. I really like the DAK design and considered this option for this reason alone.

I've also been told the 228 folded slides won't last as long as a 229 All Stainless slide. Then there is the Rust potential on the 228 slide as it's carbon. In consideration... I ignored all of this knowing I prefer the lighter weight and handling of the original designed 228. I doubt I will ever shoot out the 228 slide... If that is even possible. I happened on a used 228 with a really great trigger and action job done to it. So good it negated the need or want for the DAK trigger system...

Thats my take on it.... Yours may vary.

PS... I'm selling and trading out all my pistols the only SIG I will own will be the 228 original designed (1995 vintage). With this one I need no other SIG... for me it's the best there ever was in 9mm. Sans and perhaps the rare original P210.

Good luck with your decision.
I'd def get a railed 228 over a railed 229 if you are only going 9mm and want a rail.

POLICESTATE
03-30-2010, 3:15 PM
is there some place you can check the serial number on a 228 to see the manufacturing date?

Ranger20
03-30-2010, 3:22 PM
is there some place you can check the serial number on a 228 to see the manufacturing date?



PoliceSTATE..... HERE YOU GO! Just look under the front of your barrel hood....
Ranger20
PS. Your upside down US Flag means ... Distress Right?


http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac288/Ranger20/SigDateCodes.jpg

lugee
03-30-2010, 3:48 PM
I have a beat up West german 228 with over 10,000 rounds and a new 228R and I prefer my 228, feels more balanced but that may be because I have shot the 228 a lot more than my R.

You can find the 228R at most turners for a pretty penny.

9mmepiphany
03-30-2010, 4:10 PM
the 228Rs are left over 228 folded slides mated to 229R 9mm frames. what you get with them over a regular 228 is the rail and the ability to convert to the DAK trigger system.

as a note to folks who aren't aware: the 9mm 229 isn't the same gun as the 229 chambered in .40 or 357Sig. the slides are milled differently and the frame won't accept the .40 mags. the 229 was actually designed from the ground up to handle the .40 cartridge, it was later adapted to function with the 9mm when they withdrew the 228 from the catalog

POLICESTATE
03-30-2010, 6:28 PM
Thanks for the graphic, just checked mine, KD so 1993, I'm happy. Interesting one of the other stamps appears to be zodiacs? The one in your pic looks like a scorpion (scorpio) and mine is like a fire or something.

Yes Distress is correct. I believe our liberties, rights and our republic to be in great danger, therefore I have changed my signature to reflect that.

Anyway, thanks for the pic again.


PoliceSTATE..... HERE YOU GO! Just look under the front of your barrel hood....
Ranger20
PS. Your upside down US Flag means ... Distress Right?


http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac288/Ranger20/SigDateCodes.jpg

Ranger20
03-30-2010, 7:49 PM
Thanks for the graphic, just checked mine, KD so 1993, I'm happy. Interesting one of the other stamps appears to be zodiacs? The one in your pic looks like a scorpion (scorpio) and mine is like a fire or something.

Yes Distress is correct. I believe our liberties, rights and our republic to be in great danger, therefore I have changed my signature to reflect that.

Anyway, thanks for the pic again.



Your welcome i got it off the Sigforum where I hang out....

I agree about the distress and our liberties.... more and more each day...

I've been adding to mine....
OB and congress Rammed (passed) health Care through. Just wait til they get around to your gun rights....