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agent88
09-20-2015, 5:02 PM
http://www.jsesurplus.com/DPMS20BullBarrel1x9.223StainlessSteelStripped.aspx




http://www.jsesurplus.com/20BullBarrel1x85.56StainlessSteelNONFlutedStripped .aspx

I want a bull barrel that I will load for. I'll be shooting 100 yards prone or from bench. Interested in developing 62gn or less loads. I know I could spend a lot more on a barrel but maybe I'll get lucky with the dpms .223 chamber. I already load for my 2 bolt actions but I want to see what I can do with a AR. Thoughts.... Comments.... Critics... Thanks.


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electric7
09-20-2015, 6:06 PM
This kind of thing has crossed my mind, but 7.62 vs 308 win. I'm thinking the Nato round is not really an accurracy round, but more so a reliable feeding round. Another thing is dies and case gauges seem to be more available for .223 and .308. So, wouldn't that give a tighter head spacing and therefore more accuracy by going with a .223 or .308 chamber?

toddh
09-20-2015, 6:28 PM
One barrel is 1-8...one barrel is 1-9.

It's up to you to decide what twist you need.
You'll be the one feeding it.


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Carsgunsandchics
09-20-2015, 6:51 PM
I currently run a DPMS 24" Bull Barrel with a 1-9 twist and am quite happy with it. I use 75gr bthp Hornady Match projectiles. At 100yds I can place 5 shots under a dime.

agent88
09-20-2015, 7:51 PM
I currently run a DPMS 24" Bull Barrel with a 1-9 twist and am quite happy with it. I use 75gr bthp Hornady Match projectiles. At 100yds I can place 5 shots under a dime.
Is that .223 .556 wylde? Any luck with a lighter bullet? I'm really leaning towards the dpms.

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ElvenSoul
09-20-2015, 7:53 PM
Keep shopping find a melonite barrel

Longer life

Easier cleanup

Carsgunsandchics
09-20-2015, 7:59 PM
Is that .223 .556 wylde? Any luck with a lighter bullet? I'm really leaning towards the dpms.

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223 chamber. Got it at Grafs for $189 but here's the same one

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/721681/dpms-barrel-ar-15-223-remington-920-muzzle-diameter-1-in-9-twist-24-fluted-stainless-steel-with-gas-block?cm_vc=ProductFinding

ElvenSoul
09-20-2015, 8:13 PM
http://www.customar15.net/shop/barrels-ar-15-upper-receivers/18-stainless-melonite-socom-barrel-wylde-chamber-18-twist-5-56-223/

http://www.andersonrifles.com/product/20-hbar-melonite-barrel/

Metal God
09-20-2015, 8:27 PM
Is that your max budget $140 . For $140 bucks I'd have to assume that DPMS is as good as any at that price range . FWIW I did some test shooting 77gr Fed GMM and some 77gr sierra MK reloads from my 16" 1-9 barrel out to 300yds . They all shot just fine . You will have no problem shooting up to 77gr bullets from a 20" 1-9 barrel .

If you are willing to add another $100 to the budget . White oak is where I'd go . Not sure why you want a bull barrel but the service rifle barrels are fantastic . They are 1 inch thick to the gas block then step down to .750 . Plenty of stiffness with a little less front end weight .
http://www.whiteoakarmament.com/xcart/home.php?cat=250

White oak for $220 is the best bang for your buck but if you have the another $55 i'd go with this one

Threaded muzzle
http://www.whiteoakarmament.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17945&cat=311&page=1

Non threaded muzzle
http://www.whiteoakarmament.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17943&cat=311&page=1

Not sure how accurate you are trying to make this build or how much you know about building an accurate AR but this article is a good read
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2015/05/what-makes-an-ar-accurate-whitley-offers-answers/

NorCalFocus
09-21-2015, 2:27 PM
http://www.andersonrifles.com/product/20-hbar-melonite-barrel/

My mom and I both have this barrel. Its shoots just fine. I went HBAR so I could still carry the gun around. It shoots decently for $125.

milotrain
09-21-2015, 2:46 PM
I have a DPMS 20" 1:8 with their .223 match chamber. It is an excellent barrel, every bit as accurate as every White Oak barrel I have. For $140 it is a steal even with a 1:9 twist. The nosler 77gr is dumpy enough that it will most likely stabilize in a 1:9. The 75gr Hornady is a bit sleeker and might not. The 69gr Nosler and SMK will stabilize and they are both fantastic bullets.

Metal God
09-22-2015, 10:00 PM
I have a DPMS 20" 1:8 with their .223 match chamber. It is an excellent barrel, every bit as accurate as every White Oak barrel I have.

I have come to have some respect for your opinions milotrain so I must rethink my opinion of DPMS . I have never been a fan of DPMS and to be honest . It's been so long now I don't even remember why . Well not totally because I do remember back in the day QC at DPMS was not the best . It's been a while since I've bothered to even look at anything DPMS . Maybe that will change .

For example . It bothered me to put DPMS NM aperture and NM front sight post on my NM build . That's how deep the dislike goes . Now I'm sure you can tell that even though I'm not a fan I'm not one to trash them . It's why I said that $140 DPMS barrel would be as good as any $140 barrel . Rather then go on a rant about how i FEEL towards DPMS .

Anyways , I think you may have softened up my ridged stance on them a tad , only time will tell . haha

agent88
09-22-2015, 10:52 PM
I'm going to try the DPMS. I just need to find out for myself. Carsgunsandchics posted a link to midway if the barrel shoots half as good as those reviews lol. I'll be very happy.

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milotrain
09-22-2015, 11:11 PM
I appreciate it but I don't have any sort of "credit" just what I've run into or heard from far better shooters than myself. I will admit that I didn't expect much from that barrel but it certainly changed my mind on target. The white oak is an interesting duck. After a fair bit of research over the past few years I've come to the conclusion that in today's manufacturing world it's easy to make a quality button rifled blank. White oak just figured out how to chamber and crown it quickly and with good consistency. I imagine that any company could do the same with CNC machines, good methods and proper QC. We all like white oak because they are a known quantity but I suspect that there are a lot of mass market accuracy barrels out there that would keep pace.

I'll keep buying white oak and compass lake but I wouldn't have a problem running most any other "NM" barrel that I've heard of. Also the DPMS is a bit lighter than a white oak (or at least mine is) which makes it a great fit for the new optics rules. I'm still going to shoot irons but it's good to know what I'm competing against.