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  • hitman13
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 3793

    Blow out bags

    Building blow out bags for our trucks. Let me know what else you think I should have that I havent thought about yet, as I know there is more that I need but dont want to goto my room and tear apart my personal one.

    EMT shears
    Israeli Bandages
    Celox / Qwik clot sponges
    Hemo strips
    Guaze rolls
    4x4 guaze
    iodine
    superglue
    sam splints
    watergel
    pressure dressings,
    gloves
    IV bags
    IV starters
    Med tape
    Butterflys
    regular and large bandaids.
  • #2
    PatriotnMore
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2007
    • 7068

    Hemostats
    Forceps
    tourniquet S/F
    1 6" ACE
    1 4" ACE
    1 6" self-adhering ACE
    1 4" self-adhering ACE
    Asherman chest seal
    Duct Tape
    Chem Lights
    ‎"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions."
    --James Madison
    'Letter to Edmund Pendleton', 1792

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    • #3
      hitman13
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 3793

      I cant believe that I forgot some of those. Time to go sleep...

      Thanks Patriot!

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      • #4
        docsmileyface
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 1644

        14 ga 3 1/2" needles, hyfin dressings, large tegaderms work for occlusive dressings as well as petroleum gauze, get rid of the pressure dressings redundant if you've got the Israeli's, see if you can get an abdominal pad or dressing, a buttload of 3" tape and most of all CAT tourniquets.
        "Soldier, you need to turn your ACOG off before the batteries die." - PMI Instructor, subject matter expert

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        • #5
          EOD3
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2003
          • 949

          Tampons
          "I don't like repeat offenders, I like DEAD offenders!" ~Ted Nugent

          "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." ~ Claire Wolfe

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          • #6
            docsmileyface
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2006
            • 1644

            Originally posted by EOD3
            Tampons
            From what I've been told, a lot of tampons contain an anti-coagulant which keeps blood flowing, and that packing a wound with kerlex is more effective.
            "Soldier, you need to turn your ACOG off before the batteries die." - PMI Instructor, subject matter expert

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            • #7
              EOD3
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2003
              • 949

              Learn something new every day...

              I'll check the first-aid kit.
              "I don't like repeat offenders, I like DEAD offenders!" ~Ted Nugent

              "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." ~ Claire Wolfe

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              • #8
                11Z50
                Banned
                • Sep 2002
                • 1997

                Kerlix works for many tasks. A couple Israeli dressings and rolls of kerlix can take care of most issues. Some betadine is handy as well. Latex gloves are essential.

                One of the biggest problems I have always had with aid kits (and other types of kits) is I tend to put waaaay too much stuff in them. I carried an IV bag around for years in my aid kit thinking I might need it.

                My current kit is small, simple and contains items that will get me or my buddy to a medic or hospital.

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                • #9
                  docsmileyface
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 1644

                  Originally posted by 11Z50
                  Kerlix works for many tasks. A couple Israeli dressings and rolls of kerlix can take care of most issues. Some betadine is handy as well. Latex gloves are essential.

                  One of the biggest problems I have always had with aid kits (and other types of kits) is I tend to put waaaay too much stuff in them. I carried an IV bag around for years in my aid kit thinking I might need it.

                  My current kit is small, simple and contains items that will get me or my buddy to a medic or hospital.
                  Roger that top.... if your going to carry anything related to IV's, a simple saline lock kit should be sufficient, and all you really need for that is a constricting band (or rubber glove in a pinch), an alcohol pad (or not in a pinch), an 18 ga catheter, and a saline lock and a piece of tape.

                  For some reason the Army has a crazy hardon for IV's, but if fluid resuscitation is used in the wrong instance that added fluid volume is going to blow the clots the wounds been forming when the BP rises from the added volume, then you've got to recontrol the bleeding again.

                  Just initiating a saline lock gives you vein access in case of later vasoconstriction when they really NEED the fluids, or if you need to push meds and the components needed are incredibly smaller then a whole IV kit with tubing and bag. Not to say don't carry any fluids if you've got room for it, but in general, carrying saline lock kits on each person and having the medic responsible for who gets fluids and when is a lot easier and effective.
                  "Soldier, you need to turn your ACOG off before the batteries die." - PMI Instructor, subject matter expert

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                  • #10
                    Wolfpack331
                    Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 151

                    CAT tourniquets! I always have one on my vest and at least one in my bag.
                    Chitosan is good stuff to have as well but hard to get . I like it better than quikclot.
                    Giving an IV in a tactical setting sucks and under fire is even worse, +1 on the saline lock. I'm know some of you are medics Im not, only CLS(Ranger Version), but i've seen enough that they should make me an honorary one.
                    Hooyah. Anyone notice how cool it got all of a sudden?

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                    • #11
                      docsmileyface
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 1644

                      The flashbang pouches they issue with the MOLLE FLC set work great for CAT tourniquet pouches, trying to get it SOP for everyone to have to carry it opposite of their IFAK so they got a CAT on either side, I carry a total of 7 on my person + 2 in my aid bag.

                      If you like chitosan you'll love celox, its like a powdered form of hemcon, the guys on the board got my group a whole bunch.
                      "Soldier, you need to turn your ACOG off before the batteries die." - PMI Instructor, subject matter expert

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                      • #12
                        11Z50
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 1997

                        [QUOTE=docsmileyface;1590974]For some reason the Army has a crazy hardon for IV's, but if fluid resuscitation is used in the wrong instance that added fluid volume is going to blow the clots the wounds been forming when the BP rises from the added volume, then you've got to recontrol the bleeding again./QUOTE]

                        I was not a medic, but a CLS for years in the army. Only once did I do an IV in the field, and that was more precautionary than necessary. Even then the medics were there in minutes, and the medevac arrived in about 30 minutes. The biggest thing I think I can do until the medics or other EMT-types arrive is stop the bleeding and maintain an airway. Both tasks don't require much gear.

                        The main purpose for an aid kit for me now is to take care of myself or a buddy if injured. minor wounds, fractures, cuts, burns and scrapes happen all the time, and while they don't require a trip to the ER, they do warrant some immediate treatment. In any serious aid kit I would recommend a good supply of stuff for tending to minor injuries.

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                        • #13
                          docsmileyface
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 1644

                          Originally posted by 11Z50

                          I was not a medic, but a CLS for years in the army. Only once did I do an IV in the field, and that was more precautionary than necessary. Even then the medics were there in minutes, and the medevac arrived in about 30 minutes. The biggest thing I think I can do until the medics or other EMT-types arrive is stop the bleeding and maintain an airway. Both tasks don't require much gear.
                          Roger that, the basics work - nowadays the preferred treatment is slapping on a tourniquet and not letting it go until the guy gets back to the rear. Airway is a bit trickier, because chances are if someone needs one right there on the battlefield and a head-tilt-chin-lift doesn't work, he's going to need something pretty high-speed like a surgical cric.

                          They make pre-packaged sealed cric kits just for that purpose, takes about 2-3 minutes to pop through that cartilage and shove a tube down their throat. Not exactly the kind of thing you want to be doing under effective fire, but definitely a tool to think about having in a blow-out bag.
                          "Soldier, you need to turn your ACOG off before the batteries die." - PMI Instructor, subject matter expert

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