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Found a Remington 24823 at Vallejo last weekend, so I just had to do it.
CA AOW legal! Going to change the grip though. ![]() ![]() Last edited by m24armorer; 04-18-2008 at 9:23 AM.. Reason: add pic |
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I love Calguns.
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In regards to Short barreled shotguns, there is an exemption from the SBS-prohibition for federally-defined and federal-permitted (with the proper tax stamp) "any other weapons". That 870 is considered an AOW if it never had a shoulder-stock and is cut down to <18".
You may want to read this thread for more info, http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ad.php?t=82693 |
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Nice evil looking Gun you got there... Congrats..
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Damn I need to get moving on my trust.
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Basically, find out if your CLEO will sign-off on a Form 1 or Form 4. If not, then create a trust or corp/LLC. Trusts/corps/LLC's do not require CLEO sign-off since they are a legal entity. Buy a pistol-gripped shotgun that has never had a shoulder stock. Submit Form 1 with $200 to make AOW. Wait ~2months for approved Form 1 to come back with $200 tax stamp. Make sure the firearm is engraved with your info before you cut down the barrel. If you could find a NFA dealer/manufacturer, you may be able to buy an AOW already made with a Form 4. And an AOW Form 4 only costs $5. But right now, the NFA dealers in CA aren't familiar iwth the AOW exemption, so you may have problems finding someone that can help you. |
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D a m n!! Nice shotty!
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I'd get a holster and keep it just the way you got it. With the right ammo, would be great for opening locked doors.
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Is that considered as a concealable weapon?
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Dunno, can you put one of those on a CCW? I bet North American Arms doesn't make a belt buckle for it.
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I don't think you can put it on a CCW but on a weapons class that I took they said that you can conceal a rifle or shotgun legally in your car because its not considered a concealable weapon or something like that. That lil guy would be awesome under a front seat.
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Damn... Another kick in the *** to get my trust together...
-Gene
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OH Yeah! Thanks, M24 for the inspiration.
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I think I can get these down to under 600.00. The long forcing cone and back boring keeps the price up. It's not just a chopped 870.
If I can do it I'll list them in the for sale section and kick a few bucks to Kes. |
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Count me in for 1 when you get them all set up, I will also need info on how to finish the sale in re: to legalities, setting up a trust, etc etc. Ive been reading up on it, but would prefer to talk one on one if possible. Its alot easier to ask questions that way for me. (I have No Brain Retention Syndrome!)
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Wow....
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Nice shotgun and good find! Sounds like the Vallejo Show had some good deals and and good stuff to be had. A friend told me he say and held a Sako TRG there that was going for 2700. I think there is another show next month...maybe ill stop by this time.
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Would like one as well. Curious about legalities, and setting up 'the trust' as well. Perhaps a thread on trusts?.......
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the funniest thing is that the $200 Tax Stamp REALLY IS a stamp. By that I mean that it looks like this:
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At $600 I'd love to have one! Especially if its stamped "Witness Protection 870" like that.
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Like the shotgun and seems like a great weapon for the evil monkey that hides in everyone's closet.
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Ok guys, here is the deal.
YOU go buy a Remington 870, order number 24823. It must be new in box with the factory label on the box matching the gun. Wait your 10 days and transfer ownership to your trust or corp. Ship it up and we do the work and transfer it back to you on a form 4. The cost is 250.00. The only change I made on the gun is it will not be backbored, but will have a screw in choke (extra full or whatever you like). For Calgunners only! I will kick 50.00 per gun back to Kes and the site. |
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Guess there will be a us shortage on these now!
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Can this be done to a Mossberg 500 Cuiser (part number 50450). I'd sure love to have an AOW with a detachable mag (Knoxx sidewinder).
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I'd like to know, they're cheaper.
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What if we can get a CLEO sign off? |
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