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Old 03-22-2008, 10:29 PM
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I buy a gun from a store in Texas. The best price I could find anywhere. I'm thinking I did good, I'm going to save a lot of money. I go to the store expecting the DROS fee then get hit with 60$ transfer fee. What exactly is that?
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I buy a gun from a store in Texas. The best price I could find anywhere. I'm thinking I did good, I'm going to save a lot of money. I go to the store expecting the DROS fee then get hit with 60$ transfer fee. What exactly is that?
A fee for the pleasure of using their FFL
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That's the fee/price you pay (varies from dealer to dealer - some places charge $100+) for the use of the receiving dealer's FFL.
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It's their profit margin for doing the service.
It's hard to have FFL in CA.
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It's the CA dealers way of telling you that you should have bought the gun from them.
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There is no limit to which the CA 01-FFL dealer can charge for the out-of-state transfer fee. Varies from dealer to dealer, ranges I've seen go from $50-150.

CA DOJ does set a limit for in-state transfer fees to $10 (reason why PPTs cost $35) but does not set a limit for out-of-state transfer fees.

Reason why you should check your local FFL dealers for what they charge before buying online.
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Thanks for this, first time I've seen this list.
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60 bucks is actualy a decent deal in CA lol, not the best but decent. I know a few that are 50 and one thats 45
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It's the CA dealers way of telling you that you should have bought the gun from them.
Not quite. I don't have a problem if someone finds a better deal online than I can offer them. I have overhead to contend with and my retail price is what I need to cover that overhead. If you find a better deal, so be it. The transfer fee covers the service of using my FFL and a piece of that overhead.

I don't mind doing out-of-state transfers, even on stuff that I usually carry on my shelf. I do mind when someone expects that service to be free. I don't think that's an unreasonable position.
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I buy a gun from a store in Texas. The best price I could find anywhere. I'm thinking I did good, I'm going to save a lot of money. I go to the store expecting the DROS fee then get hit with 60$ transfer fee. What exactly is that?
Should they have done it for FREE? They don't get a penny of that $25.00 DROS fee. It takes them plenty of time to receive your gun, process your paperwork, and deal with you at the counter. Also, they have to store your gun for the duration of the waiting period.
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I buy a gun from a store in Texas. The best price I could find anywhere. I'm thinking I did good, I'm going to save a lot of money. I go to the store expecting the DROS fee then get hit with 60$ transfer fee. What exactly is that?
$60 is actually pretty cheap as compared to other places. Dealers need to charge that or else they would never sell any of their product. We would all buy out of state and have it transfered to their shops for no fee. Guns are on average $60-100 cheaper in other states than in California. It pretty much makes it a wash for you to buy out of state and have it transferred, unless you get a smoking deal. Again, be happy it was ONLY $60.
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Not quite. I don't have a problem if someone finds a better deal online than I can offer them. I have overhead to contend with and my retail price is what I need to cover that overhead. If you find a better deal, so be it. The transfer fee covers the service of using my FFL and a piece of that overhead.

I don't mind doing out-of-state transfers, even on stuff that I usually carry on my shelf. I do mind when someone expects that service to be free. I don't think that's an unreasonable position.
Oh, I'd never suggest that you should work for free. I don't haul freight for free, nor should an FFL sell guns at no profit. We operate businesses, not public service organizations.

We can be frank though and just say that the "transfer fee" is nothing more than preservation of a dealer's bottom line. A dealer has the same costs of doing business whether he sells from his own stock or does a transfer, but he doesn't charge a "transfer fee" for firearms sold from his stock or that he orders.

Again, I'm not knocking FFLs, just tell people the way it is and let them deal with it. Having said all that, $60 isn't bad for CA.
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Two places here in my town do the transfer for 35 bucks each...I *****ed about it the first time, but now, years later, I'm happy to pay it because it helps keep them in business...and if I have three gun stores in business within a mile and a half of my house, I'm happy.
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