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Old 04-08-2008, 2:58 PM
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Pardon my ignorance of procedure, but what's the next stop for this? Does it go to the floor for a vote at this point? Anybody? Bueller?
See link.

Usually these go to the next committee, most likely Appropriations.

You can follow the bill status here though it's hours to days late.
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There is no value at all complaining or analyzing or reading tea leaves to decide what these bills really mean or actually do; any bill with a chance to pass will be bad for gun owners.

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Old 04-08-2008, 3:07 PM
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It's a good thing we have a strong republican governor in office who will not sign these crazy bills into law.............





Oh wait nevermind, we have Liberal Arnold I almost forgot
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Old 04-08-2008, 3:10 PM
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im confused. so what is the status of this?
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Old 04-08-2008, 3:17 PM
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See link.

Usually these go to the next committee, most likely Appropriations.

You can follow the bill status here though it's hours to days late.

Thanks!!!
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Old 04-08-2008, 4:42 PM
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This is very telling. Anyone who can vote for this garbage even in committee is pathetic. We don't have to wonder why we have lost freedoms in California. Those who have been entrusted with them are doing all they can to remove them. With legislators like this, who needs enemies?

Get ready to contact the next committee.
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Old 04-08-2008, 5:24 PM
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im confused. so what is the status of this?
I believe this has it:
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For more details regarding AB2062, refer to: http://www.calnra.com/calerts/calert040108.shtml

TODAY'S ACTIVITY:
AB2062 was passed in the Assembly Public Safety Committee, over the objection of Assemblyman Greg Aghazarian. Assemblyman Aghazarian noted that AB2062 violates Joint Rule 54 (c). Joint Rule 54 (c) prohibits a legislator from authoring a bill that is substantially the same as a bill that he or she previously authored in the same two-year session. Assemblyman Aghazarian moved to refer AB2062 to the Assembly Rules Committee for a formal determination of it's fate.
If Rules will not take it up, it goes to the next committee.
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Old 04-08-2008, 8:39 PM
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That is so ridiculous it is enough to drive you Crazy.

Maybe what the California forums, Calguns and the NRA should do is have a target politician every 6-mos to a year that we oppose. We get everyone out on the street and what ever it takes to expose these people and get them OUT!!!!

One at a time...

I worked on a recall once for Gail Marshall. It got to be voted on, but was not successful. But she didn't run again after that.
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Old 04-08-2008, 8:40 PM
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In the hypothetical worst case scenario of 2062 passing, could it be overturned by the courts independent of a positive outcome from Heller? Preemption wouldn't apply since it's a potential state law, right?
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Old 04-08-2008, 9:35 PM
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Preemption wouldn't apply because it is a stricter law than any federal law. There is no conflicting federal law that I know of, and it isn't getting in the way of any federal objective. I believe it would have to be overturned 1st by a lower court then state supreme court, then if it goes farther (which I doubt), federal.

That is if there is someone or some organization that is going to pursue that route.
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that really s**ks.i use atleast 400-500 rounds everytime i visit the range.
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Old 04-08-2008, 9:42 PM
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and i always try to buy atleast 1000 on every gunshow i go to just to save money
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Old 04-09-2008, 12:29 AM
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I dont believe this bill, as written, will never become law. We must remain vigilant, no doubt this type of crap will continue from the CA legislature, but I'm beginning to see this as a feel good bill that the "ayes" can point to as evidence that they are "tough on crime"...etc..etc.
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Old 04-09-2008, 12:31 AM
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How the heck is inventing more crime being tough on crime, or causing people to be victims of crime pushing a solution?
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Old 04-09-2008, 9:26 AM
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The next seat it goes to there are 25 D and 15 R. How do you think this bill will go.
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Old 04-10-2008, 2:18 PM
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I used the One Email to all feature at the NRA site to send a message urging them to vote this down.
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Old 04-11-2008, 9:03 AM
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Action taken. I got some co-workers to throw in with us on this too.

Even the non-shooters agreed that crap like this is way over the top and a poor use of our tax dollars.
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Old 04-11-2008, 12:06 PM
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I have that feeling this is a dumb Question to ask. What Professions will this affect if any? Examp... Security, Bail Enforcement A.k.A Bounty Hunters...I shoot between Min. 200 to 500 Pistol Rnds, 50 Shotgun, and 300+ .223 rounds a month.
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Old 04-11-2008, 12:22 PM
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I used the One Email to all feature at the NRA site to send a message urging them to vote this down.
I'll have to look for that next time. I spent 2-hours writting everyone I could.
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Old 05-23-2008, 2:22 AM
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(Hey all, new member here)

These people are Insane. I'm moving to Nevada in a few years.
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Old 05-28-2008, 8:04 AM
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What about the $3 tax?

Did anyone but me see that part?
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Old 05-28-2008, 4:42 PM
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I called Assemblyman Benoit's office in Sacramento and spoke to a gentleman there who advised that my assemblyman also opposes the bill, supports the second amendment and will be voting against the bill.
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Any updates on this bill? It was reviewed today, right?
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Thats some bad news....
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Old 06-17-2008, 5:17 PM
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<sarcasm>Whew, I feel safer already.</sarcasm>
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Old 06-17-2008, 8:13 PM
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so is this going to be law or does it still have to go through more voting?
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Old 06-17-2008, 8:55 PM
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it's my understanding that when a bill gets amended and passed that means it has to go back to the assembly who then has to re-vote on the newly amended bill. If it passes the assembly it then has to go to appropriations and if it doesn't get amended it goes forward for signing.

Heller will make this one unconstitutional IMHO.
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Old 06-18-2008, 6:43 AM
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I would not consider the governors signature a hurdle anymore. He seems to sign 1 bad gun bill per year.

It will come down to this bill or the "biometric handgun" bill. He will sign one of them. Microstamping was done last year, so I think he will sign the ammo bill this year.
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Old 06-18-2008, 9:10 AM
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I would not consider the governors signature a hurdle anymore. He seems to sign 1 bad gun bill per year.

It will come down to this bill or the "biometric handgun" bill. He will sign one of them. Microstamping was done last year, so I think he will sign the ammo bill this year.


Actually we shot ourselves in the foot last year. Those bills wouldn't've been signed if GOC's Sam Paredes (with some CAFR/CRPA Kathy Lynch participation) hadn't screwed up.

It appears we may well have had an effect on Sam Paredes' income - there was a flood of mail for awhile with the various Calguns discussions on the screwup coming in, instead of renewal checks.

I'm hoping these two stay bound & gagged, or have a bit of self-realization how their actions have consequences.
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Actually we shot ourselves in the foot last year. Those bills wouldn't've been signed if GOC's Sam Paredes (with some CAFR/CRPA Kathy Lynch participation) hadn't screwed up.

It appears we may well have had an effect on Sam Paredes' income - there was a flood of mail for awhile with the various Calguns discussions on the screwup coming in, instead of renewal checks.

I'm hoping these two stay bound & gagged, or have a bit of self-realization how their actions have consequences.
Be that as it may it doesn't change original point, Arnold now more than willing to sign anti-gun bills.
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