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Old 03-17-2014, 9:36 AM
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Default Preppers in LA, is there any panic going on after the 4.4 today?

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...#axzz2wF5RMm8M

I read about the earthquake today (hope everyone is ok) and how some media are saying that it could have been a foreshock.

Wondering if any of you have been seeing the unprepared flocking to the stores or anything crazy like that. Lines at the gas stations, etc.

Just curious.
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Don't the pre quakes happen just prior or within an hour normally?

I think we are all pretty accustom to shake rattle and rolls.
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I think we are all pretty accustom to shake rattle and rolls.
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Lots of activity at the hardware store this morning, but nothing really happened here at my place besides the early-morning wake-up call.
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Don't the pre quakes happen just prior or within an hour normally?

I think we are all pretty accustom to shake rattle and rolls.
I guess it's easy to tell I'm a transplant, huh?

I've only ever felt one earthquake and it was a tiny one that I didn't even realize was a quake.

I guess I didn't consider that people here are so used to them. I figured people would be flocking to the stores with the media trying to scare them with the whole 'foreshock' business.
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I guess it's easy to tell I'm a transplant, huh?

I've only ever felt one earthquake and it was a tiny one that I didn't even realize was a quake.

I guess I didn't consider that people here are so used to them. I figured people would be flocking to the stores with the media trying to scare them with the whole 'foreshock' business.
After a couple years here they get routine, I usually get alarmed when things start shaking on the shelves. Then I'll usually bring up the USGS page and see where the epicenter was at, just so I'll know if the SHTF somewhere nearby.
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I guess it's easy to tell I'm a transplant, huh?

I've only ever felt one earthquake and it was a tiny one that I didn't even realize was a quake.

I guess I didn't consider that people here are so used to them. I figured people would be flocking to the stores with the media trying to scare them with the whole 'foreshock' business.
If you're ever in a big one, chances are you will be lucky to hit the deck under a desk or move to a doorway. Not much time to react. Most people freeze and would get smashed, I think it is a situational awareness thing, you either have it or you don't.

The little ones will test your reaction skills
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Not to bad on the subway to work this morning tho it kept slowing down luckily I was in time to work.

At home it was my first earthquake with my son. All I did was cover him if the ceiling fan dropped my wife on the other hand didn't move.

My area in North Hollywood is pretty ****ty so there were a ton of activity with the police or fire.
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There was the larger, off-shore Eureka quake last week and now this one. A quick Google search turned up this article: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...NIA_EARTHQUAKE

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The quake was somewhat unusual because of its location within the Santa Monica Mountains, a 40-mile-long range that crosses Los Angeles and stretches west through Malibu to Ventura County.

Seismologist Egill Hauksson, a veteran researcher at Caltech, said it was the only magnitude-4.4 temblor within the range since recording of earthquakes began.

"The Santa Monica Mountains are a very old rock formation, hundreds of millions of years old, and we sort of think of it as being a very rigid block. And the earthquakes tend to cluster either north of them or south of them but don't seem to be occurring within the mountains," he told a Caltech press conference.

The quake was, however, "par for the course in Southern California" and would likely only be studied briefly to understand how it fits in with previous activity, Hauksson said.

Southern California has been in a seismic lull since significant quakes of the 1980s and 1990s. Whether Monday's quake signaled an end to that "earthquake drought" won't be known for many months because it takes a long period to show whether the rate of activity has changed, he said.
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After Northridge, no one bothered in so cal to prep.

Cars run out of gas every day around LA
People overall count on FEMA to take care of them.. Or someone else.
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I don't have a clue. I'm hold up at my bug out location and haven't gone into town to see.
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If you have been through the big ones like I have you sleep through 4s, 5s are fun and 6 and higher well ok I am moving to under the table.

Slept through this one.

Preps no different.

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oh wait -- I'm in San Diego

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Business as usual. Didn't even feel it. It does give me a great reason to open up some dialogue with the people I talked about in my post yesterday.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=907324
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Business as usual. Didn't even feel it. It does give me a great reason to open up some dialogue with the people I talked about in my post yesterday.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=907324
Excellent point!
I've tried to talk to my friends at work about it. One in particular seems to be much more open to the idea. He acknowledges that he should but clearly it's not at the top of his list of things to do.
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Just reminded me that i need that extra b.o.b in my trunk asap.....im probably going to start today....
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I was in Berkeley for a 4 point something a few years back. I was sitting watching TV in the afternoon. Did not even realize it was a quake, it just felt like a big heavy truck rumbling by out front, more vibration than any kind of serious shaking. We were practically the epicenter too. The Richter scale is logarithmic so a 5 is way bigger than a 4 is to a 3. It's not until you get up in the 6's that you really experience disturbing effects. We have 3's and 4's all the time and they are hardly ever noticed if you are not watching the news.
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Yeah, a couple of my co-workers were talking about how the quake reminded them that they need to get a first aid kit, some food, water, etc. So yes, it does remind people that they are not prepared. The one thing the quake reminded me, was that having a BOB in your car does you no good if you run out of the house with your keys still inside... I could have broken a window of the car with a brick if I had to, but I would not have been able to start it and drive anywhere. So it was a good reminder that I probably need a copy of the key hidden in the yard somewhere or something. And if you don't have a BOB in your car, you should. Because if your house got flattened, or caught on fire, in the first moments of a quake, you might not be able to go back inside to get your supplies...
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About the only thing you will see in LA afterwards are thousands of illegal aliens camping out in the city parks, like back in '94.
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LOL... just read this, this is my favorite post of the day!
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About the only thing you will see in LA afterwards are thousands of illegal aliens camping out in the city parks, like back in '94.
how do you pick out the illegal aliens oh wise one?
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Watching the frame of the open French door lose sync with the back yard during the 5.7 in 2009 in San Diego..

was a real eye opener.
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how do you pick out the illegal aliens oh wise one?
The legal residents are invested and don't leave their property to be sacked by looters.
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There was an earthquake?

Didn't realize it till the evening news. Slept through it. 6+ I'll feel. I was in Berkeley during the 6.9/7.0 Bay Area quake twenty odd years ago. I remember that one and recall looking for a doorframe and wondering what the heck. Mind didn't register the quake but instinct made me move for cover.
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The legal residents are invested and don't leave their property to be sacked by looters.
What about the people that live in apts that were red tagged and have no family to go with? I had a friend that had to do that. He had NO where else to go.
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Shelters were set up that first night for those folks. The illegals prefered the parks because they were afraid of sleeping under any buildings even when shelters were available.

That was from their fear and experience with the crappy building codes from their home countries.
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If you're ever in a big one, chances are you will be lucky to hit the deck under a desk or move to a doorway. Not much time to react. Most people freeze and would get smashed, I think it is a situational awareness thing, you either have it or you don't.

The little ones will test your reaction skills
Yep, born and raised SoCal. It always make me pause first. I see if it is a big one. If it is a bigger one, it takes me a second or 2 to think to move for cover.

4.4 is pretty much just a reminder to keep prepping. The only damage done was to the ego of the ch5 newscaster.

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I haven't seen a big rush. If there was I might attribute that to Easter more than anything else. But my sister did breach the subject of preparedness which was pretty surprising. So she, my brother and I had a brief discussion so at least she is open to the subject. We talked about home preparedness and car kits and the reality of walking/getting home - i.e. crazies on the street, blocked highways/freeways. I work much farther than her from home so for me it will be a difficult decision to make and one of last resort of course should it come to that.

I'll see if she wants to hit up SOS or any other preparedness store for supplies other than food or water. My goal is help people prepare without freaking them out.
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The one thing I would like to say about earthquakes:

As someone who was right over the Northridge quake, you have very little time to get out of the house, or get to shelter, if that is your plan. Quakes start with a slow, rolling motion. Those are the P waves. Then the S waves come in, and those are much more violent. By the time the S waves hit in Northridge, my place was shaking so badly it was impossible to even walk or move anywhere. So you have a short time of only a few seconds to get someplace safe. So those of you who sit, and wait to see if it's going to be big or not... You are better off looking silly, and running to shelter, even if it turns out to be nothing. For this one, I was able to get all the way from my bedroom out the front door before it stopped. If it was the big one, I would have been right in a good position to run the rest of the way into my front yard, if it started shaking really badly. All I know, is that I laughed off earthquakes most of my life, having been through so many small ones. But once you are in a big one, you will realize that they are nothing to fool around with.
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Yep agree with the above I normally start walking outside if I am not sleeping through one.

I encourage everyone to lookup the triangle of safety when ducking and covering. Hiding under something is a good way to get killed. Hiding beside can be safer.

The big one in Mexico school kids hid under desks. And thats where the rescuera foind them crush. The rescuers use the triangle method to gain access to the kids.
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Yep agree with the above I normally start walking outside if I am not sleeping through one.

I encourage everyone to lookup the triangle of safety when ducking and covering. Hiding under something is a good way to get killed. Hiding beside can be safer.

The big one in Mexico school kids hid under desks. And thats where the rescuera foind them crush. The rescuers use the triangle method to gain access to the kids.
^ second this - most of the legacy information about avoiding injury in an earthquake is only good if the quake is minor - moderate. A big quake your best chance is to be next to something solid (think couch or bed) and survive in the triangle next to the object if there is a collapse.
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I can't believe the LA city council blamed it on Fracking. Heck there is only 1 frack crew in California and they were and are in Kern County. I am glad to see the folks in here are a little more savvy than to blame some PC like fracking. It is hard to understand how someone can blame something with all the earthquakes we have in California and with the history we have before fracking even started. Glad to be here.
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That's because the folks in LA elected the most capable people to serve on the city council. They are all Mensa members.
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