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Old 03-04-2014, 7:29 PM
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Today I traded-in my S&W Model 29 8 3/8ths revolver (a hunting gun) on a new Ruger Mini 14 5.56 mm NATO semi auto carbine, rejoining the ranks of the US militia.

Having read One Second After, the novel by Forstchen, I can see where if SHTF we will each need scoped hunting rifles, semi auto carbines, tactical shotguns, and pistols, to weather the storm, when it comes.

I love the Ruger Mini 14 for the following reasons:

- if SHTF and your governor calls for help to assist the National Guard, you and I will need to show up with rifles in calibers that the Guard uses, namely 5.56mm NATO or 7.62mm NATO;

- the Mini 14 uses the floating open bolt design of the M-1 Garand and the M-14 but in 5.56 mm NATO;

- there is NO BULLET BUTTON requirement on the Rugers in California so this B/S is not applicable to it;

- it comes with scope rings allowing me to mount a mill dot scope for extreme accuracy out to 500 yards.

I used to have a Mini-14 back in 1976 to 1986 until I burned out the barrel on several thousand rounds of surplus military ammo.

It's good to be back with a brand new out of the box 5.56mm NATO carbine.

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Welcome back!

I would like a mini-14, but i hear a lot about its issues. I wish they would come up with something worthy of a mil spec to acheive something of the same legendary status as the M1, M14, M4, M16, etc.

Put a few k rounds through it and tell me what you think of it Maybe you will convince me to pick one up!
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Congrats on getting back in the game! Ammo prices have changed, but you will still have fun none the less.
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I have the newer version of the Mini-14 and I love it. All the stuff you hear and read about "issues" with the Mini-14 are related to older versions. If you do a little research, you find that Ruger shut down the Mini-14 production line and completely re-tooled it, and fixed some issues in the design. I have mine for all the reasons the original poster listed. I also have a bunch of mags for it.

No it does not look like a wannabe Ninja, but you can't argue with the drop dead (pun intended) reliable action scaled down from the M14/M1A. It's simply not fussy, runs clean. The rifle needs no mods, is piston driven, mounts a scope nicely. Shoots better than minute of bad guy all day long.

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Note that my 45 ACP is accurate from 3 to 25 yards.

Note also that my Mossberg stainless steel matt finish tactical 12 gauge shotgun is also accurate from 3 to 25 yards and packs a huge wallop.

And my new Ruger Mini 14 in 5.56 mm NATO is accurate from 3 to 500 yards.

Plus my Remington 700 is accurate from 100 to 1000 yards.

That about covers all the bases. You would need a crew served Barrett to exceed those capabilities. So I don't need the Mini 14 to reach out further than it's stipulated 500 yards. It is a very accurate CQB weapon, superior to the shotgun beyond 25 yards, although inferior to it at closer ranges than 25 yards, as would be all AR's AK's etc.

Closer than 3 yards, a dagger is faster, according to the Tueller Rule.

And hand to hand, you don't really need a weapon -- that's when your hands become the weapons.

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I have the newer version of the Mini-14 and I love it. All the stuff you hear and read about "issues" with the Mini-14 are related to older versions. If you do a little research, you find that Ruger shut down the Mini-14 production line and completely re-tooled it, and fixed some issues in the design. I have mine for all the reasons the original poster listed. I also have a bunch of mags for it.

No it does not look like a wannabe Ninja, but you can't argue with the drop dead (pun intended) reliable action scaled down from the M14/M1A. It's simply not fussy, runs clean. The rifle needs no mods, is piston driven, mounts a scope nicely. Shoots better than minute of bad guy all day long.

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Thank's Navy. I used to have the older version. I am looking forward to getting the new version out of jail in 10 days.
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Congrats on getting back in the game! Ammo prices have changed, but you will still have fun none the less.
I'm going to start checking out the gun shows in San Jose and Reno for good deals on ammo cans of 5.56 next.
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I've almost continually owned one or more Mini's since they were introduced back in the day, buying my first one at Montgomery Wards. Over the years I sold/traded them off. I currently have one, a stainless carbine model with a 16" bbl. I'll never sell this one. It handles so well and I can run my 20 and 30 rd mags w/out a lock. If I need a rifle for HD, the AR's are going to stay in the safe.
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I would like a mini-14, but i hear a lot about its issues. I wish they would come up with something worthy of a mil spec to acheive something of the same legendary status as the M1, M14, M4, M16, etc.

Put a few k rounds through it and tell me what you think of it Maybe you will convince me to pick one up!
It's not possible to exceed the accuracy of the M-1 or M-14, unless you go with a bolt action 1903. The other carbines you mention are for CQB out to a couple of hundred yards at most -- spray and pray.

I'll put a scope on my new Mini 14 and see what that does. Then I'll let you know.

10 days to wait.
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I've almost continually owned one or more Mini's since they were introduced back in the day, buying my first one at Montgomery Wards. Over the years I sold/traded them off. I currently have one, a stainless carbine model with a 16" bbl. I'll never sell this one. It handles so well and I can run my 20 and 30 rd mags w/out a lock. If I need a rifle for HD, the AR's are going to stay in the safe.
I actually prefer the open bolt design of the Mini 14 to the closed bolt design of the AR's, M-16 and M-4.

When/if the Mini 14 jams, its quick and easy to clear.

When one of the others jams, then you are in a world of hurt and it's time to switch over to your secondary gun.
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The main benefit from a mill dot scope is that you can lead a moving target, left and right.
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Nice trade! I just bought a brand-new Mini-14 today. Can't wait to pick it up! Now just to find magazines.
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Today I traded-in my S&W Model 29 8 3/8ths revolver (a hunting gun) on a new Ruger Mini 14 5.56 mm NATO semi auto carbine, rejoining the ranks of the US militia.

Having read One Second After, the novel by Forstchen, I can see where if SHTF we will each need scoped hunting rifles, semi auto carbines, tactical shotguns, and pistols, to weather the storm, when it comes.

I love the Ruger Mini 14 for the following reasons:

- if SHTF and your governor calls for help to assist the National Guard, you and I will need to show up with rifles in calibers that the Guard uses, namely 5.56mm NATO or 7.62mm NATO;

- the Mini 14 uses the floating open bolt design of the M-1 Garand and the M-14 but in 5.56 mm NATO;

- there is NO BULLET BUTTON requirement on the Rugers in California so this B/S is not applicable to it;

- it comes with scope rings allowing me to mount a mill dot scope for extreme accuracy out to 500 yards.

I used to have a Mini-14 back in 1976 to 1986 until I burned out the barrel on several thousand rounds of surplus military ammo.

It's good to be back with a brand new out of the box 5.56mm NATO carbine.

Sounds like a good trade. I have always liked Minis, and have new and old minis. I keep the minis from 1976 (Bi-centennial models) bone stock, they have beautiful wood.

The new ones have compensators and optics.

But if Governor Brown called on people to defend the state, I wouldn't even think twice about running the other direction. Most likely if you showed up Brown would confiscate your rifle and lock you up. Just sayin.

BTW - If you don't mind buying things on line the best prices on bulk 5.56 are there. My favorite Federal Lake City M855 or M193. These are military spec rounds. I prefer M855, but some ranges won't allow you to shoot it because it is a penetrator round with a small steel cone in the tip than can make a spark and start a fire (unlikely but possible I guess). Also, PMC makes a decent M855 and M193 which can sometimes be found for a little less dough. The PMC doesn't burn quite as cleanly IMHO, but it isn't that noticeable.

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...if SHTF and your governor calls for help to assist the National Guard, you and I will need to show up with rifles in calibers that the Guard uses, namely 5.56mm NATO or 7.62mm NATO;
If the governor calls up the National Guard it's to stop citizens, not to help the Guard.

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- the Mini 14 uses the floating open bolt design of the M-1 Garand and the M-14 but in 5.56 mm NATO;
It's not an open bolt design, unshrouded bolt maybe is a better term.

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- there is NO BULLET BUTTON requirement on the Rugers in California so this B/S is not applicable to it;
If configured correctly, otherwise it does.

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- it comes with scope rings allowing me to mount a mill dot scope for extreme accuracy out to 500 yards...
That might be a bit over stated, just saying.
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Have an older mini. After adding a barrel strut to stop shot stringing, it is my go-to fun and SHTF gun. The AR, well, lets just say that I'm selling the 5.56 version to finance other, more interesting calibers.

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Mini's are cool. The rings that come with them are total garbage. Luckily they come with the picatiny rail piece you you can mount your scope with some quick release Warne rings. Did I say the rings that come on the Ruger suck?
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The newer Mini-14s are much better than the older ones. I know - I used to own a 185 series, and currently own a 580 series. When I had them together, I did a quick and dirty comparison. The rifles performed similarly when the barrels were cold. However, the skinny-barrel, 185 series model did start to string rounds when the barrel got hotter, while the newer 580 model held POI much better.

Precision-wise? Meh - it's a fighting/sporting/hunting carbine. It is not, nor was it ever designed to be, an MOA benchrest rifle. I'd guess my Mini is a 3 MOA rifle, at best. Even my Franken-AR is easily more precise. However, a Mini is just a fun, fun gun. My journey to Mini ownership was rooted in my desire to own an M1 Carbine. I wanted basically a "do-everything" rifle in a compact, easy to shoot, not-scared-to-ding-up package. Now, had I lived in a red state, I might just have gotten a KISS AR setup. As it was, I wanted an M1 Carbine because of the whole no-bullet button thing.

I quickly found out that ammo for the M1 Carbines was expensive and difficult to find. I also discovered that a Mini-14 is basically a latter-day M1 Carbine: it was never meant to be a Main Battle Rifle - it was closer to what today would be called a PDW. A Mini-14 is basically the M1 Carbine concept, except in a much more powerful (and, when I got it, inexpensive and easy-to-find) caliber.
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I always wanted a Model 29 with a ridiculously long barrel like you HAD.
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Yup, time to start stock piling ammo.
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I always wanted a Model 29 with a ridiculously long barrel like you HAD.
The Model 29 is a hunting gun designed to take down lions and bears. You can also hunt deer with it. But I have not used it in 5 years, so it is time to recycle it for something more practical.

After reading One Second After, I want a Mini 14 again. And lots of ammo. Lots.
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If the governor calls up the National Guard it's to stop citizens, not to help the Guard...
Well, OUR Governor, sure, you may be right about that.

Other governors, different story.
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Nice piece. Good trade for you brother.
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The Ruger Mini-14 is a cool gun but accurate to 500 yards?
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The main benefit from a mill dot scope is that you can lead a moving target, left and right.
For those that know how to use the mill dot system it is a rangeing device for both lateral and vertical adjustments
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I had a mini14 years ago and if I recall it was chambered as .223, not 5.56. (Am I remembering this wrong?). I gather from the OP that the new models are specifically 5.56?
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I had a mini14 years ago and if I recall it was chambered as .223, not 5.56. (Am I remembering this wrong?). I gather from the OP that the new models are specifically 5.56?
Most minis will shoot the 5.56. One exception is the mini target rifle.
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I had a mini14 years ago and if I recall it was chambered as .223, not 5.56. (Am I remembering this wrong?). I gather from the OP that the new models are specifically 5.56?

The receivers were in fact stamped .223, but they had a 5.56 chamber, as noted in the instruction manual. The exception being, as stated above, the target model which was a .223 chamber.




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The one I bought today is stamped 5.56 NATO on top of the receiver, IIRC. I didn't spend too much time looking at the stamping on top though. I'll have to double check the next time I see it
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I love my mini 14 ranch rifle. I also built an AR but if the SHTF and I needed to make a quick run for supplies I'd take my Mini with it's Vortex Spark red dot scope. I have more experience with it than my AR and it was the rifle I used for my training classes. Until I have more experience with my AR my Mini 14 is the go to gun all the way.
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Congrats! I bought a new model stainless Mini 14 a few years ago and I have had no issues with it. Decent accuracy as well.

I put a Aimpoint 9000sc which is a long tube Aimpoint that can be mounted with two standard Ruger 30mm scope rings. Very reliable red dot that can be left on 24/7.

For a home/self defense rifle, the Mini 14 is hard to beat. Like you said no bullet button to deal with. My ARs are just toys for me, my Mini is what is loaded next to my Mossberg 500 in the closet.
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The old receiver stamping (.223 cal) was supposedly to differentiate the receiver from its .30 cal bigger brother. The manual stated explicitly that it had a 5.56 chamber and was safe to shoot both 5.56 NATO and .223 Remington, the exception being the target model which was .223 Remington only. It doesn't surprise me that Ruger changed the roll mark to 5.56 on the receiver, as the old stamping seems to have caused no end of confusion amongst shooters with internet access that don't read the manual thoroughly.

OP congrats on your new rifle. They are great little guns. If you find the sights lacking, tech sights offers a usgi type rear replacement sight. They also offer a usgi type sling that will fit the smaller mini 14 sling loops. Go rock that bad boy at an Appleseed weekend!!!


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I have a 580 series and it's plenty accurate but I've really only dialed in at 100 yards. I don't think its practical to think it will be a capable round out to 500 yards. That's what the M1A is for.

I chose a mini because of the garland type action and I'm not into the tactical look. Mine has a composite stock and considering going to wood on both platforms as steel and wood just make a fine looking firearm.
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All I knoe from mu previous mini14 is you can.kill two enemy with a single shot. The brass comes flying out of the gates near super sonic speed. Lol. My brass were hitting guys 7-8 booths down the line. I always try to choose the furtherst right lane when I shoot minis.
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I love the Ruger Mini 14 for the following reasons:

- if SHTF and your governor calls for help to assist the National Guard, you and I will need to show up with rifles in calibers that the Guard uses, namely 5.56mm NATO or 7.62mm NATO;

- the Mini 14 uses the floating open bolt design of the M-1 Garand and the M-14 but in 5.56 mm NATO;

- there is NO BULLET BUTTON requirement on the Rugers in California so this B/S is not applicable to it;

- it comes with scope rings allowing me to mount a mill dot scope for extreme accuracy out to 500 yards.

I have found that the best way to get "extreme accuracy" at 500 yds with my Mini 14 is to low crawl 450 yds first - then shoot .......

I had a "pencil barrel" Mini 14 but had some work done on it, the thing shoots great now. From everything I've read the newer version of the Mini is light years ahed of the older style. I keep "almost buying" a Mini 30 but they're a bit harder to find.
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thats funny..

get called to help nat guard.. ok fantasy land, first thing is no one will give a flying duck if you have a bullet button..pistol grip or even a shoulder shroud: )

2nd.....mini mags of standard size 20/30/40 are rare and mostly crap

500 yds?..sure the bullet goes that far, good luck on your minute of man, especially when after a few dozen rounds go through.

I sold my ss ranch rifle after 20 years of shooting it- good riddance


If you still want to play fantasy national guard, you are going to see %99 more ar-15 parts/accessories/ magazines lying around then the A-teams mini 14
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As one review I read on the new Mini 14 said, people with no trigger time on the new Mini's continue to spread rumors that no longer apply to the new Mini's. For one, 20/30 rd mags are on sale about every other week at Midway or CDNN, but unfortunately we can't buy them in Ca, but they are plentiful everywhere else. I have two Mini's, one I bought 25 years ago and with some minor mods it shoots very well. At Angeles I can hit the 18'X24" plate every time with the factory sights at 300 yds. My daughter has a new 581 stainless and she can hit the 400 yd 18X24" plate 10 for 10 with Techsights. I can do the same thing with the 581 when I put a red dot on it with my old eyes. Have never tried 500 yds, might try doing that the next time we go. Never tried it because I'm not sure if the 223 was an effective round at 500 yds. I did talk to one guy at the range that said he shoots out to 500 yds with his but he had a scope on it. One thing for sure neither one of the Mini's will jam with factory mags. I have 25 year old 20/30/40 rd mags that work great in both the old and new Mini and don't need a bullet button.

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Old 03-05-2014, 2:19 PM
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I loved my Mini. All but mag availability.
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