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Old 02-18-2014, 1:07 PM
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When I ask you about your carry guns? Occasionally LEOs come into the shop I work at (free coffee anyone?) and as one can imagine they are carrying. Being a gun guy (obsessed) I felt the unnatural compulsion to ask a solitary fellow about his piece. I couldn't see much of it through the holster and was curious.

He looked at me like I was completely psychotic. So, just wondering, does it make you nervous if one of us ununiformed fellows asks you about your piece? Why or why not? I have no intentions of putting anyone off, realistically I prefer to have officers around rather than not but sometimes I gotta ask about that shiny gun of yours
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Old 02-18-2014, 2:11 PM
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Not every cop is a gun guy. If I came into your shop and asked you what kind of cash register you were using would you want to talk about it? For some guys it's just a tool or part of the uniform
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i dont like when people ask, however I understand the curiosity. just seems like an unnecessary question. And yes, personally, it's just a tool I carry to work.

....coming from a "gun guy"
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Not every cop is a gun guy. If I came into your shop and asked you what kind of cash register you were using would you want to talk about it? For some guys it's just a tool or part of the uniform
Well said lol.

Personally, I dont mind. Then I ask what type is he carrying.
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I don't mind at all, but I'm a gun guy and pretty approachable anyway.

I liked to do presentations with kids and the most often asked question is, "Is that gun real?", followed by, "Have you shot anyone?"
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I hate when you're sitting down at chow and a dips**t Dad comes up and says "Now Billy be good cause this man will arrest you". Then you wonder why kids are scared of the cops and you got to talk them down when you show up on a barking dog call or some accidental 911.

I'm a gun guy. I'll talk guns all day with the public.
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I have had better results asking LEOs in a more specific manner like, "Does your department allow you to carry something besides your Glock 23?". In contrast to, "Hey, what kind of gun do you carry?".

The former lets them know you're a firearms person and not just a random guy asking about their gun.
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I get asked all the time and I usually don't mind as long as the dude doesn't look like a hoodlum gang banger.

I get asked a lot, even by other Deputies/officers I work with. I guess I bring it upon myself for carrying a sig p226 tac ops with hogue g10 grey/black magwell grips. It definately stands out.
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It never bothered me. I'm a gun guy and like talking guns with decent people.
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I have had better results asking LEOs in a more specific manner like, "Does your department allow you to carry something besides your Glock 23?". In contrast to, "Hey, what kind of gun do you carry?".

The former lets them know you're a firearms person and not just a random guy asking about their gun.
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I hate when you're sitting down at chow and a dips**t Dad comes up and says "Now Billy be good cause this man will arrest you". Then you wonder why kids are scared of the cops and you got to talk them down when you show up on a barking dog call or some accidental 911.
That was one of my biggest pet peeves. I'd just blow it right back at them and tell little Billy that I won't arrest him for not being good because that his his parents job to make him behave, not the cops job. I'd also say if he isn't good I'll watch and allow his parent(s) to spank him in front of me and the whole place. Parents didn't seem to like that!!
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That was one of my biggest pet peeves. I'd just blow it right back at them and tell little Billy that I won't arrest him for not being good because that his his parents job to make him behave, not the cops job. I'd also say if he isn't good I'll watch and allow his parent(s) to spank him in front of me and the whole place. Parents didn't seem to like that!!
I was in a store and a kid was acting up. His mother looked at us and told the kid to behave or we would take him to jail. I looked at the kid and said we're not police, see, no guns. We're the paramedics. The lady didn't miss a beat telling the kid we would give him a shot. I'd never heard that one before.

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Doesn't bother me a bit. I routinely get asked about my HK-45 and my M-4. Usually leads to a long conversation which I enjoy having.

Yesterday a tourist fom New Zealand and I talked guns (they don't have many there) for about 20 minutes while his kids played on my motorcycle.
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I have had better results asking LEOs in a more specific manner like, "Does your department allow you to carry something besides your Glock 23?". In contrast to, "Hey, what kind of gun do you carry?".

The former lets them know you're a firearms person and not just a random guy asking about their gun.
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I have found most to be very willing to talk guns. Others just aren't firearm people to begin with and aren't interested in talking guns becuase they don't know the language
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Uncomfortable? No. Do I always want to talk about guns at work or while performing some kind of task? No.
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Old 02-23-2014, 12:50 AM
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Thanks guys. It's something for me to think about-
Most of the time I'm around firearms I'm with fellow fanatics, so the "it's part of the uniform" bit just doesn't always click. I mean, it's not news but it's not something I think about when I see you on break.

And as for Lorax3 thanks for the suggestion. I'll try to broach the subject in a better manner in the future (assuming I find myself asking again in the future of course). I do try to be friendly but I have a problem with either being too ambiguous and standoffish or far too direct. I like people just fine it's just rare I communicate with them correctly
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I was in a store and a kid was acting up. His mother looked at us and told the kid to behave or we would take him to jail. I looked at the kid and said we're not police, see, no guns. We're the paramedics. The lady didn't miss a beat telling the kid we would give him a shot. I'd never heard that one before.
My aunt used to threaten her kids with that. They are demons... Anyone remember the Bernie Mac skit about his sisters kids?

Being a gun guy sometimes I glance at what different officers carry but never thought to ask. I always figured it was best to MYOB.

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I never minded because we issue Glocks and I carried a Sig so I had an obviously different look in the holster.
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I have had better results asking LEOs in a more specific manner like, "Does your department allow you to carry something besides your Glock 23?". In contrast to, "Hey, what kind of gun do you carry?".

The former lets them know you're a firearms person and not just a random guy asking about their gun.
This is pretty spot on. If some guy comes up and asks why don't you use a desert eagle, that's what i'd carry, I immediately want to distance myself from the mouth breather as soon as possible. If a guy comes up and says "who did your grip reduction, Robar or Cold bore?" I pretty much assume he's a normal human with a good working knowledge of guns.
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I am curious sometimes, but I always imagined that a LEO might be (justifiably) concerned if someone showed a lot of interest in his weapon. My cousin is a San Diego Deputy, so I try to channel my LE and gun questions to him.
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I was surprised entering LE how few cops were "gun guys" unfortunately the majority of cops you ask probably don't even know a whole lot about their own weapon. I never mind when someone asks questions of what we have and what we do with it, I always think back to when I was a kid seeing a cop and all the cool stuff and its nice to be in that position now to give something back so I'm generally cool with all questions as long as it doesn't involve personal life and the questions aren't while Im tied up on a call or eating (I really don't like that one) Other than that ask away.
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I was surprised entering LE how few cops were "gun guys" unfortunately the majority of cops you ask probably don't even know a whole lot about their own weapon. I never mind when someone asks questions of what we have and what we do with it, I always think back to when I was a kid seeing a cop and all the cool stuff and its nice to be in that position now to give something back so I'm generally cool with all questions as long as it doesn't involve personal life and the questions aren't while Im tied up on a call or eating (I really don't like that one) Other than that ask away.
Diddo. Im more than happy to explain the job, answer a random theoretical legal question, show someone my gear or answer a gun question. Just dont come up to me while im obviously on a call with my pen and paper out engaged in my work and ask me to sign your ticket, give you directions somewhere or any other random question.
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I hate when you're sitting down at chow and a dips**t Dad comes up and says "Now Billy be good cause this man will arrest you". Then you wonder why kids are scared of the cops and you got to talk them down when you show up on a barking dog call or some accidental 911.

I'm a gun guy. I'll talk guns all day with the public.
OMG.

I used the opposite with my oldest son. Since he was very young, he has always wanted to be a policeman. We were in a local eatery and he was misbehaving (in the extreme I might add) and I motioned to some Sheriff's Deputies eating at a table and told him, "If you don't behave, they won't let you be a policeman. They don't take citizens like that on the Force." And I had not had problem one with him in public since.

And next year he will finally be old enough to participate in our local city's Police Youth Academy.

My views may be old and antiquated, but Law Enforcement is something that should be held to a higher regard and respected as such.
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I was surprised entering LE how few cops were "gun guys" unfortunately the majority of cops you ask probably don't even know a whole lot about their own weapon.
This. When I brought in my Kimber Warrior to qualify to carry it off duty (be covered by policy) my Sgt looked at it and said, "That's not some Saturday Night Special right?"

I respectfully told him no and he said, "I don't get the big deal about owning different guns. We have our two issued firearms, what else do you need."

I get not being a "gun guy" but I have an issue with LE that look at range day as a pain in the *** and LE that don't carry a back up.
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It never bothered me. It sure beats "I didn't do it".
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^^^ That's the worst one. Everyone thinks they are a comedian...
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Or points to their friend "he did it!"

Oh boy you're so funny, I've never heard that one before.
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I have never had an issue with it. I don't mind talking about guns.. As long as you don't try to touch it.
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I get asked all the time and I usually don't mind as long as the dude doesn't look like a hoodlum gang banger.

I get asked a lot, even by other Deputies/officers I work with. I guess I bring it upon myself for carrying a sig p226 tac ops with hogue g10 grey/black magwell grips. It definately stands out.
Getting upset about being asked about carrying a gun is like the girl who gets the DD implants and then *****es at you for looking at her chest.
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Doesn't bother me. Like most cops on here, I'll talk guns all day. If it's another shooter, great. If not, it's a great chance to educate someone.
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I'd have no problems talking with a fellow gun guy, but not every cop is into guns.

If you were to come up and start asking about whats under the hood of my radio car, then the conversation is going to be very short since I'm not a car guy.
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