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Old 02-29-2008, 5:05 PM
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Default Finished my AR build...

You may have saw a poll I did awhile back on what route I should go with my OLL build (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=83489)....here's the result....

Just got the Magpul MIAD grip and C-Products 10/30 magazine in the mail, so I'd thought I just throw up a pic. I plan to add an Eotech 512 later. Haven't shot it yet....will do within a couple of weeks with a Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24x40 at 100 yards just for testing inherent mechanical accuracy. Used to be a heavy barrel varmint/target rifle, but sold most of the parts except the lower as I wanted to change it to something shorter, quicker and lighter. Inspired by Noveske's N4 rifles.

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Old 02-29-2008, 5:16 PM
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Be sure to update us on how well that pws fsc works, been thinking about grabbing on to try out.

looks good btw
you build the upper yourself?
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Old 02-29-2008, 5:18 PM
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that looks really nice... nice parts for the build! how do you like the fsc556 brake on there?
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how do you like the fsc556 brake on there?
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Haven't shot it yet....will do within a couple of weeks.
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Old 02-29-2008, 5:27 PM
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Hope that helps
hehe... guess i wanted to look at the pretty pics before finishing reading.
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Looking good. Aren't you going to miss the old rifle? You should have just bought another lower to build on.

The new look is pretty damn evil.
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Old 02-29-2008, 5:39 PM
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Be sure to update us on how well that pws fsc works, been thinking about grabbing on to try out.

looks good btw
you build the upper yourself?

Thanks man. Yeah, build the entire rifle myself. It's not that hard really....the AR platform is pretty simple as are most firearms if you are mechanically inclined.
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Old 02-29-2008, 5:48 PM
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Looking good. Aren't you going to miss the old rifle? You should have just bought another lower to build on.

The new look is pretty damn evil.
Nah, I like this one more than the old one....I can use this for close range shooting AND also longer range since the White Oak Stainless barrel is known for good accuracy. The old rifle was too heavy to fling around. Maybe I should get another lower though. Hmmmm....

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I love it much more now.
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That's nice. It's spec'd by you and built by you. It doesn't get much better than that.

So did it cost as much as a Noveske?
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very nice! did you get the FSC556 from primary weapons site?
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very nice! did you get the FSC556 from primary weapons site?

Thanks! I got it from Rainer Arms....a few bucks cheaper.

http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=sho...product_id=821
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That's nice. It's spec'd by you and built by you. It doesn't get much better than that.

So did it cost as much as a Noveske?
Thanks. I added it all up and it was about $1600 as you see it now, so it's about $300 less plus it's the specs I want exactly as you mentioned. I was more going for a similar Noveske N4 look than actually trying to match every exact part.
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Bump for range report, specifically fsc556
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That is one evil sweet looking rifle... Congratulations... I love it.
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Old 03-23-2008, 6:17 PM
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Bump for range report, specifically fsc556

Quick range report....shot 50 rounds of Remington UMC 223. Shot some with and without the FSC556. Was shooting off the bench on a bipod with sandpad. Honestly, it's really hard to tell a difference in that scenario. Recoil felt about the same. I am guessing if I was shooting off hand and/or more rapid fire, I would notice a difference, but I didn't test that out. 5.56/223 is pretty mild anyway....I would say the FSC556 is a decent comp. I know there are other more dedicated comps out there that might actually provide better recoil control. If you need flash suppression AND compensation, the FSC556 is good. As for me, I could care less about flash suppression....compensation is priority, so I might be looking to selling my FSC556 and getting a dedicated brake.

Here's a recent test of some AR15 brakes from Front Sight magazine and a posting from M4carbine.com...

http://m4carbine.net/showpost.php?p=138187&postcount=77

I bought a FSC556 and have it on my issue M4. I have used a few other comps and to me at least, it is clear that it is less "blasty" to guys shooting beside you. I wouldn't considered any other the other comps I've tried on a work gun. (All of those comps were designed for competition shooters). I also think the flash hider prongs worked OK. It certainly has less flash than the Miculek comp.

However, in my experience the FSC556 is not the best comp for reducing recoil. The other comps I've tried all shoot softer and seemed to have less muzzle rise.

But since it isn't as harsh to those around me as those other comps, I'm willing to allow the tradeoff. Less blasty and less flash, but not quite as soft shooting. You can't have everything.

It does have a little bit more dust signature from the prone than an A2 flash hider, but I'm not worried about that.

Front Sight magazine has already done a test. The writer put wheels on a rifle rest and measured the rearward travel with no muzzle brake and then with various comps. The DNTC finished 7th out of 7 in controlling rearward movement, and tied for 3rd in the amount of downward force it generated. (The article stated that all of the comps were very close in the amount of downward force they created. The writer indexed the comp 90 degrees from the correct position to measure downward force . I think it's one thing to control felt recoil, and another thing to control muzzle flip. An AR that still has recoil but no muzzle rise is very shootable. )

The comps were ranked in this order in reducing rearward movement:
TTI Eliminator (tied for first) (reduced rearward movement by 63%)
SJC (tied for first) (63%)
JP Tank (61%)
Miculek (58%)
Bennie Hill's Rolling Thunder (57%)
Bennie Cooley's (made by JP) (56%)
Sabre's Gill (54%)
DNTC (43%)
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Great looking rifle!
What tools were required to build the upper though?
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Great looking rifle!
What tools were required to build the upper though?
The tools required are basically the same as any upper and very simple. I just needed a barrel nut wrench to install the barrel nut to hold the barrel onto the upper receiver. Hex wrench to tighten the handguard onto the barrel nut.

I mean, that's really it. If you can build one AR upper, you can build them all as they are all nearly the same.

Thanks for the compliment.
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