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PA .. got question .. I see the bullet drop on first page using 55grain ..but I still dont get how that is related to ur reticle design ..

to keep it simple .. I just want to set up my .223 load , so I can just play with BDC without dialing too much .

I be shooting 55grain and wont go past over 500 yards .. dont have chrono yet , but planning to get it later .

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What type of gun? 5.56 or .223? Fps gr BC?
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its Rem 700 tactical 20inch .223

fps ,, yea , how fast does it have to be ...order to stay very close to ur scope

gr BC ??? 55hornady FMJBT stuff ... whats BC ?

to me , if I stay around 2950 , it should be pretty close to 500 yards ??

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its Rem 700 tactical 20inch .223

fps ,, yea , how fast does it have to be ...order to stay very close to ur scope

gr BC ??? 55hornady FMJBT stuff ... whats BC ?

to me , if I stay around 2950 , it should be pretty close to 500 yards ??
Yes you should be on. At 2950 your on out to 500 maybe 2-3" low but will not come into play your group at that range will be anywhere from 10-30" depending on wind. 55FMJ has about a 1 MOA error meaning even if you stuck your rifle in a vise n shot it would still shoot about 1-1.5" group.


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If you had to compare glass quality to any other brands out there , what would you say .
I personally used cheap bushnell banner 1.5x4 and vortex pst 4x14 .. Im sure in your time , you probably went through more glasses than I have .

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What nikon does with their bdc software is standard in the mil system here is a quick example using mils. The problem with their system is you cant range estimate the way you can using mils.



And obviously the ACSS system is a huge advantage because its auto ranging and BDC at the same time not requiring turret adjustments or math to be done.
You sure it was free? Only ones I found in App Store were $4.99/7.99
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I personally used cheap bushnell banner 1.5x4 and vortex pst 4x14 .. Im sure in your time , you probably went through more glasses than I have .

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To me its about as clear as my Super Sniper on an old bolt gun I got.

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You sure it was free? Only ones I found in App Store were $4.99/7.99
Not sure I have had it for a while and it was free.
JBM is free online and is arguably one of the best.

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You sure it was free? Only ones I found in App Store were $4.99/7.99
Theres three versions of strelok. The base reticle version is free.
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How do we sign up to be notified on this one? I joined the mailing list is that all that can be done for this? I ask as you have a separate notification option for the Gen2 1x6 ACSS posted.
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How do we sign up to be notified on this one? I joined the mailing list is that all that can be done for this? I ask as you have a separate notification option for the Gen2 1x6 ACSS posted.
There will be a place to sign up soon.
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So ya, seems like i got to jump on the band wagon with the rest. Where, When, and How much? Seems perfect for everything i want to do with my new rifle.
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So ya, seems like i got to jump on the band wagon with the rest. Where, When, and How much? Seems perfect for everything i want to do with my new rifle.
If your coyote hunting this thing would be really nasty using the circles for center mass or center for shoulder to hip 18"
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I would love to get this scope , but just cant spend over 300 on scope .. already invested about 100 on rings & base .. I would have go with non ACSS model .
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I would love to get this scope , but just cant spend over 300 on scope .. already invested about 100 on rings & base .. I would have go with non ACSS model .
The 4-14 ffp non acss is in that budget if you cant wait.
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I would love to get this scope , but just cant spend over 300 on scope .. already invested about 100 on rings & base .. I would have go with non ACSS model .
It will most likely be under $300

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Thanks . Already ordered FFP MIL version .. its a gift anyways .. but I'm planning to get this scope later for myself. I appreciate answering all my questions.
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Dimitri,

I want to ask you something about the BDC markings on this scope for 75 gr match ammo.

I'm specifically thinking about Prvi Partizan's 75gr HPBT. I believe the spec is 2723fps, but that is probably not out of a 16in. barrel, which is what I'll be shooting it out of.

I noticed in the drop table in your first post that all the 75, 77, and 62 gr varieties had similar drop to about 800 yards. The 75 and 62 gr. all had the same zero as well. Can that be right? Can I really just zero a 75gr. at 100 and the markings will be correct even out to 700 and it works with 62gr bullets as well without having to rezero?

Please advise, thank you.
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Dimitri,

I want to ask you something about the BDC markings on this scope for 75 gr match ammo.

I'm specifically thinking about Prvi Partizan's 75gr HPBT. I believe the spec is 2723fps, but that is probably not out of a 16in. barrel, which is what I'll be shooting it out of.

I noticed in the drop table in your first post that all the 75, 77, and 62 gr varieties had similar drop to about 800 yards. The 75 and 62 gr. all had the same zero as well. Can that be right? Can I really just zero a 75gr. at 100 and the markings will be correct even out to 700 and it works with 62gr bullets as well without having to rezero?

Please advise, thank you.
Same/similar ballistics, not same zero. Meaning once you've sighted-in with the ammo you'll be using, given the right conditions, the different bullets may follow a similar path over a certain distance.
Several factors have to be taken into consideration to determine this. It's never as simple as just 75 grain vs. 62 grain.
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Dimitri,

I want to ask you something about the BDC markings on this scope for 75 gr match ammo.

I'm specifically thinking about Prvi Partizan's 75gr HPBT. I believe the spec is 2723fps, but that is probably not out of a 16in. barrel, which is what I'll be shooting it out of.

I noticed in the drop table in your first post that all the 75, 77, and 62 gr varieties had similar drop to about 800 yards. The 75 and 62 gr. all had the same zero as well. Can that be right? Can I really just zero a 75gr. at 100 and the markings will be correct even out to 700 and it works with 62gr bullets as well without having to rezero?

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Is that a yes or no? So will the bdc markings on your scope work with the ppu 75 gr if zeroed at 100 yards? Do I need to zero an inch high or an inch low at 100 yards for the 75 gr?

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The published BC for the PPU 75gr is 0.350

PPU 55 gr ("M193" from Wideners?) is BC 0.250

If any of you bought Wideners generic 75gr Match bullets, when I contacted them, they said the manufacturer was PPU. A quick check of PPU's website gave the BC of both projectiles above.
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Okay, I think I was being unclear. I didn't mean the 75 gr projectile loaded by my own recipe or something. I meant match loads by ppu.

http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8452

I believe PPU's numbers are ~2700 fps, but that's not out of a 16 in barrel.

From a 16 in. barrel, probably something like 2400~2500 fps.

Dimitri, with this round, will the bdc markings on the ACSS be accurate out to 700 still?

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Okay, I think I was being unclear. I didn't mean the 75 gr projectile loaded by my own recipe or something. I meant match loads by ppu.

http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8452

I believe PPU's numbers are ~2700 fps, but that's not out of a 16 in barrel.

From a 16 in. barrel, probably something like 2400~2500 fps.

Dimitri, with this round, will the bdc markings on the ACSS be accurate out to 700 still?

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Out of a 16"I found it at 2580 with a 200 yard 0 you ll be on out to 500 man size targets out to 700 maybe 800.





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Any chance of getting this reticle introduced to strelok+?

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Out of a 16"I found it at 2580 with a 200 yard 0 you ll be on out to 500 man size targets out to 700 maybe 800.





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Thanks for the detailed reply, Dimitri.

If I can trouble you one more time, what if I scrape up the money and get an 18" barrel, with PPU's 75 gr hpbt match load, what would be the drop be? Would I be able to just zero at 100 yards and use the bdc markings on ACSS without any adjusments?

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Thanks for the detailed reply, Dimitri.

If I can trouble you one more time, what if I scrape up the money and get an 18" barrel, with PPU's 75 gr hpbt match load, what would be the drop be? Would I be able to just zero at 100 yards and use the bdc markings on ACSS without any adjusments?

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Why are you stuck on PPU? Get some hornady 5.56 75 gr and 0 as you are its doing 2713 out of a 16".



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Why are you stuck on PPU? Get some hornady 5.56 75 gr and 0 as you are its doing 2713 out of a 16".



+1"


Also the 1-6ACSS lines up dead on out to 800







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Thanks Dimitri. I am looking at the PPU hard right now because they're only half the price of blackhills and hornady. From what I've read, they're marginally less consistent than the premium brands, but should be accurate enough for me at those distances.

Are the two tables listed above for the Hornady or the PPU out of 18" barrel?

Also, how are you coming up with these tables, is there a website you use to calculate the drop for different loads?

Sorry for the newb questions, but that is who I am, so no need to try to hide it.

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Thanks Dimitri. I am looking at the PPU hard right now because they're only half the price of blackhills and hornady. From what I've read, they're marginally less consistent than the premium brands, but should be accurate enough for me at those distances.

Are the two tables listed above for the Hornady or the PPU out of 18" barrel?

Also, how are you coming up with these tables, is there a website you use to calculate the drop for different loads?

Sorry for the newb questions, but that is who I am, so no need to try to hide it.

Thanks
They are for a 16" barrel if you want for 18" you add another 50fps or so.
How far are you planing to shoot? 600-700 yards is a long ways out especially for .223

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They are for a 16" barrel if you want for 18" you add another 50fps or so.
How far are you planing to shoot? 600-700 yards is a long ways out especially for .223

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I really want to try out to 700, that has always been a goal of mine, it just sounds very interesting, to be able to hit at that distance. With an 18" barrel, I think it should be POSSIBLE if I get some quality rounds, like 75 or 77gr match?

You think 62 gr would be doable as well out of an 18" barrel?

I really just want to use the BDC on the ACSS and let reticle take care of the drop for me, that's why I'm asking for the best ammo to use in an 18" barrel that everything will just line up as closely as can be with the ACSS.

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I really want to try out to 700, that has always been a goal of mine, it just sounds very interesting, to be able to hit at that distance. With an 18" barrel, I think it should be POSSIBLE if I get some quality rounds, like 75 or 77gr match?

You think 62 gr would be doable as well out of an 18" barrel?

I really just want to use the BDC on the ACSS and let reticle take care of the drop for me, that's why I'm asking for the best ammo to use in an 18" barrel that everything will just line up as closely as can be with the ACSS.

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You can do that with standard M193 55gr
Check out the end of this video I hit 700 yards multiple times with standard AR15 all i do is hold on the 700 yard mark and half way to the 5mph wind dot for a 2.5-3 mph wind.
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