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Old 01-26-2014, 10:13 AM
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Default ***Handguns on CA Approved List scheduled to Expire in February 2014**

DOJ showing 1,143 1,131 1,123 1,118 models of handguns available in CA. This time last year there were 1,287. Looks like another 20 slated to fall of next month Just between S&W and Ruger.

The following handguns renew in February 2014:

Smith & Wesson and Strum Ruger semi-auto pistols expected to not be renewed in red


Smith & Wesson 317-2 SKU 160222 / Alloy, Stainless Steel Revolver 1.87" .22 LR 2/1/2014
Smith & Wesson 332-1 SKU 163679 / Alloy, Titanium, Stainless Steel Revolver 1.87" .32 H&R Magnum 2/1/2014
Smith & Wesson 337-2 SKU 163053 / Alloy, Titanium, Stainless Steel Revolver 1.87" .38 Spl 2/1/2014

Smith & Wesson 640-3 SKU 163690 / Stainless Steel Revolver 2.12" .357 Magnum 2/1/2014
Smith & Wesson 317-3 (Hi-Viz) SKU 160221 / Alloy, Stainless Steel Revolver 3" .22 LR 2/1/2014
Smith & Wesson 60-14 SKU 162430 / Stainless Steel Revolver 3" .357 Magnum 2/1/2014
Smith & Wesson 67-5 SKU 162802 / Stainless Steel Revolver 4" .38 Spl 2/1/2014
Heckler & Koch P2000-V2 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.66" 9mm 2/2/2014
Smith & Wesson 617-5 SKU 160568 / Stainless Steel Revolver 6" .22 LR 2/3/2014
Smith & Wesson 648-2 SKU 163668 / Stainless Steel Revolver 6" .22 MRF 2/3/2014
Smith & Wesson 629-6 Compensated Hunter SKU 170181 / Stainless Steel Revolver 7.5" .44 Magnum 2/3/2014
Smith & Wesson 66-6 Carry Comp. SKU 170024 / Stainless Steel Revolver 3" .357 Magnum 2/3/2014
Smith & Wesson SW990L SKU 120230 / Polymer, Stainless Steel Pistol 4" 9mm 2/3/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. P512MKIII 10107 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 5.5" .22 LR 2/3/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. KMKIII678H / Stainless Steel Pistol 6.87" .22 LR 2/3/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. KMKIII678GC / Stainless Steel Pistol 6.875" .22 LR 2/3/2014

Sturm, Ruger & Co. KGP-4327-7 (Satin Stainless) / Stainless Steel Revolver 4.2" .327 Fed Mag 2/3/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. KSR9C-10L (Brushed Stainless) / Polymer Frame; Stainless Steel Slide Pistol 3.5" 9mm 2/3/2014
Para USA (Para Ordnance) PX938S / Stainless steel Pistol 5" .38 Super 2/6/2014
Para USA (Para Ordnance) PX938SL / Stainless Steel Pistol 5" .38 Super 2/6/2014
Para USA (Para Ordnance) PX938SN / Stainless Steel Pistol 5" .38 Super 2/6/2014
Charter 2000 (Charter Arms) 53839 Chic Lady (Pink/Hi Polish SS) Std / Aluminum, Stainless Steel Revolver 2" .38 Spl 2/6/2014
Smith & Wesson 40-1 (Color Case) SKU 150205 / Steel Revolver 1.87" .38 Spl 2/7/2014
Smith & Wesson 640-1 SKU 103690 / Stainless Steel Revolver 2.12" .357 Magnum 2/8/2014
Smith & Wesson 4006 SKU 104400 / Stainless Steel Pistol 4" .40 S&W 2/8/2014
Smith & Wesson 4566 SKU 108272 / Stainless Steel Pistol 4.25" .45 ACP 2/8/2014
Smith & Wesson 4506 SKU 108163 / Stainless Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 2/8/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR9B-10-L (Black) / Alloy; Polymer Pistol 4.14" 9mm 2/9/2014

Sturm, Ruger & Co. KSP-321X-CT (Stainless) / Stainless Steel Revolver 2.28" .357 Magnum 2/9/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. KRH-45-4 (Satin Stainless) / Stainless Steel Revolver 4.166" .45 Colt 2/9/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. KRH-444 (Satin Stainless) / Stainless Steel Revolver 4.177" .44 Magnum 2/9/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. GP-141 (Blue) / Alloy Steel Revolver 4.19" .357 Magnum 2/9/2014
Smith & Wesson M&P 45 (Mag/Thmb Sfty) Dk Earth Bro SKU 109056 / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.5" .45 ACP 2/12/2014
Smith & Wesson 337-2PD SKU 163056 / Alloy, Titanium, Stainless Steel Revolver 1.87" .38 Spl 2/14/2014
Smith & Wesson 329 NG (Matte Black) SKU 163420 / Alloy; Stainless Steel Revolver 2.75" .44 Magnum 2/14/2014
Smith & Wesson 63-5 Hi-Viz (Satin Stnls) SKU 162634 / Stainless Steel Revolver 3" .22 LR 2/14/2014
Smith & Wesson 432 PD Laser Grip SKU 163669 / Alloy, Steel, Stainless Steel Revolver 1.87" .32 H&R Magnum 2/17/2014
Smith & Wesson 637-2 Laser Grip SKU 163052 / Alloy, Stainless Steel Revolver 1.87" .38 Spl 2/17/2014
Smith & Wesson 22A-1 Polished Sides SKU 107437 / Alloy, Stainless Steel Pistol 5.5" .22 LR 2/17/2014
Smith & Wesson 410S Laser Grip SKU 104747 / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4" .40 S&W 2/17/2014
Smith & Wesson SW 1911 PD SKU 108283 / Alloy, Steel, Stainless Steel Pistol 4.25" .45 ACP 2/17/2014
Smith & Wesson SW 1911 PD (Desert Tan) Laser Grip SKU 108296 / Alloy, Steel, Stainless Steel Pistol 4.25" .45 ACP 2/17/2014

Smith & Wesson 325NG (Matte Black) SKU 163421 / Scandium/Stainless Steel Finish Revolver 2.5" .45 ACP 2/18/2014
Heckler & Koch USP40C-LEM / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.58" .40 S&W 2/20/2014
Smith & Wesson 640-3 (S&W Logo Grip) SKU 163690 / Stainless Steel Revolver 2.12" .357 Magnum 2/24/2014
Smith & Wesson 649-5 (S&W Logo Grip) SKU 163210 / Stainless Steel Revolver 2.12" .357 Magnum 2/24/2014
Smith & Wesson 60-14 (S&W Logo Grip) SKU 162420 / Stainless Steel Revolver 2.12" .357 Magnum 2/24/2014
Smith & Wesson 638-3 (S&W Logo Grip) SKU 163070 / Alloy; Stainless Steel Revolver 1.87" .38 Spl. 2/24/2014
Smith & Wesson 637-2 (S&W Logo Grip) SKU 163050 / Alloy; Stainless Steel Revolver 1.87" .38 Spl. 2/24/2014
Smith & Wesson 642-2 (S&W Logo Grip) SKU 163810 / Alloy; Stainless Steel Revolver 1.87" .38 Spl. 2/24/2014
Smith & Wesson M&P 340 (S&W Logo Grip) SKU 163072 / Alloy; Stainless Steel Revolver 1.87" .357 Magnum 2/24/2014
Smith & Wesson M&P 360 (S&W Logo Grip) SKU 163074 / Alloy; Stainless Steel Revolver 1.87" .357 Magnum 2/24/2014
Smith & Wesson 317-2 (S&W Logo Grip) SKU 160222 / Alloy; Stainless Steel Revolver 1.87" .22 LR 2/24/2014
Smith & Wesson 340PD (S&W Logo Grip) SKU 163061 / Alloy; Titanium; Stainless Steel Revolver 1.87" .357 Magnum 2/24/2014
Smith & Wesson 360PD (S&W Logo Grip) SKU 163064 / Alloy; Titanium; Stainless Steel Revolver 1.87" .357 Magnum 2/24/2014
Smith & Wesson SW 1911 PD SKU 108286 / Alloy, Steel, Stainless Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 2/24/2014
Smith & Wesson 317-3 (S&W Logo Grip) SKU 160221 / Alloy; Stainless Steel Revolver 3" .22 LR 2/24/2014
Smith & Wesson 60-15 (S&W Logo Grip) SKU 162430 / Stainless Steel Revolver 3" .357 Magnum 2/24/2014
Smith & Wesson 60-15 Hi-Viz (S&W Logo Grip) SKU 162434 / Stainless Steel Revolver 3" .357 Magnum 2/24/2014
Smith & Wesson 63-4 (S&W Logo Grip) SKU 162450 / Stainless Steel Revolver 5" .22 LR 2/24/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. MKIII6 / Steel Pistol 6" .22 LR 2/24/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. MKIII678 / Steel Pistol 6.875" .22 LR 2/24/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. KP512MKIII / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 5.5" .22 LR 2/24/2014

Sturm, Ruger & Co. MKIII4 / Steel Pistol 4.75" .22 LR 2/24/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. P4MKIII / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4" .22 LR 2/24/2014

Smith & Wesson 629-6 Black Comp. Hunter SKU 170241 / Stainless Steel Revolver 7.5" .44 Magnum 2/26/2014
CZ USA (Ceska Zbrojovka Fox) CZ 75 P-01 01199 / Steel, Alloy Pistol 3.88" 9mm 2/26/2014
Smith & Wesson SW 1911 PD Gunsite SKU 108304 / Stainless Steel, Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.25" .45 ACP 2/27/2014
Smith & Wesson M&P 340 SKU 163072 / Alloy, Stainless Steel Revolver 1.87" .357 Mag 2/27/2014
Smith & Wesson 43C (Matte Blk) SKU 103043 / Aluminum Alloy Revolver 1.875" .22 LR 2/28/2014
Taurus 941 (Stainless) 2-941029 / Steel Revolver 2.09" .22 Mag 2/28/2014
Para USA (Para Ordnance) RX1445ECBL / Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 2/28/2014
Para USA (Para Ordnance) RX1445ECBN / Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 2/28/2014
Para USA (Para Ordnance) RX1445ECBR / Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 2/28/2014
Para USA (Para Ordnance) PX1445SGRL / Stainless Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 2/28/2014
Para USA (Para Ordnance) PX1445SGRN / Stainless Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 2/28/2014
Para USA (Para Ordnance) PX1445SGRR / Stainless Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 2/28/2014
Para USA (Para Ordnance) PX938P / Stainless Steel Pistol 5" .38 Super 2/28/2014
Para USA (Para Ordnance) PX938PL / Stainless Steel Pistol 5" .38 Super 2/28/2014
Para USA (Para Ordnance) PX938PN / Stainless Steel Pistol 5" .38 Super 2/28/2014

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Old 01-28-2014, 8:35 AM
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Only a week left before these Rugers fall off the Roster. If you ever wanted one now is the time to buy.

Smith & Wesson SW990L SKU 120230 / Polymer, Stainless Steel Pistol 4" 9mm 2/3/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. P512MKIII 10107 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 5.5" .22 LR 2/3/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. KMKIII678H / Stainless Steel Pistol 6.87" .22 LR 2/3/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. KMKIII678GC / Stainless Steel Pistol 6.875" .22 LR 2/3/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. KGP-4327-7 (Satin Stainless) / Stainless Steel Revolver 4.2" .327 Fed Mag 2/3/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. KSR9C-10L (Brushed Stainless) / Polymer Frame; Stainless Steel Slide Pistol 3.5" 9mm 2/3/2014
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Old 01-30-2014, 7:09 PM
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If a pistol is scheduled to expire but I still will be on my 30 days am I SOL?
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If a pistol is scheduled to expire but I still will be on my 30 days am I SOL?
Yes.
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The CA handgun list is such a crock... it's just another form of gun control gilded to look like something done for public safety. Sad to see all these guns go off roster
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And if I'm reading it right, at the end of the year and 1 or 2 months into 2015, pretty much ALL Glocks fall off the list.

This whole roster and micro stamping thing is such total BS.
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And if I'm reading it right, at the end of the year and 1 or 2 months into 2015, pretty much ALL Glocks fall off the list.

This whole roster and micro stamping thing is such total BS.
Not like they aren't winning at backdoor gun control.
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Ugh thats what I thought. Not going to the shop i guess.
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Less than a week left before the following fall off the list:

Smith & Wesson 4006 SKU 104400 / Stainless Steel Pistol 4" .40 S&W 2/8/2014
Smith & Wesson 4566 SKU 108272 / Stainless Steel Pistol 4.25" .45 ACP 2/8/2014
Smith & Wesson 4506 SKU 108163 / Stainless Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 2/8/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR9B-10-L (Black) / Alloy; Polymer Pistol 4.14" 9mm 2/9/2014


And Today is the last day to start DROS on a Ruger MkIII Hunter 6-7/8" fluted Barrel, I Love mine:

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FYI, The gun falls off the morning of the day it expires. I have been seeing them drop off prior to opening in the morning. For example the last day for the Ruger P512MKIII (10107) WAS 2/3/14. It was not on the DROS system this AM and we could not transfer them today.

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Amazing how many people think it's "only Ruger" or not aware that a lot of cool revolvers will be "off list" soon. Total BS! Ca. politicians are getting a ban without any new laws...
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Now Down to 1,123.

Another 2 weeks and these will be gone too. If interested I'm sure Turners and others will be liquidating stock at sale prices.

Smith & Wesson 22A-1 Polished Sides SKU 107437 / Alloy, Stainless Steel Pistol 5.5" .22 LR 2/17/2014
Smith & Wesson 410S Laser Grip SKU 104747 / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4" .40 S&W 2/17/2014
Smith & Wesson SW 1911 PD SKU 108283 / Alloy, Steel, Stainless Steel Pistol 4.25" .45 ACP 2/17/2014
Smith & Wesson SW 1911 PD (Desert Tan) Laser Grip SKU 108296 / Alloy, Steel, Stainless Steel Pistol 4.25" .45 ACP 2/17/2014
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Are the 22/45's falling off the list also? Just seen the MKIII's on the above list.
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Are the 22/45's falling off the list also? Just seen the MKIII's on the above list.
Yes, they will be falling off the list.
Ruger will not be renewing any semi-auto pistols and by October 2014 they will no longer have any semi-auto pistols on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale.
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Yes, they will be falling off the list.
Ruger will not be renewing any semi-auto pistols and by October 2014 they will no longer have any semi-auto pistols on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale.
Thanks, do we know how much longer before they go off?
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Amazing how many people think it's "only Ruger" or not aware that a lot of cool revolvers will be "off list" soon. Total BS! Ca. politicians are getting a ban without any new laws...
seeing that not one manufacturer has submitted a new firearm that qualifies under the current DOJ mandates, which includes the microstamping, it seems more than apparent that we are either going to be stuck with a lot of older model semi-automatic firearms, or, revolvers, as the choices dwindle

until some of the manufacturers release some new model firearms, the whole effect of this new law won't really be felt, there is still some money to be made with the models currently on the roster

I think, for now, it will be "only Ruger and S&W", until other manufacturers come out with their new models, then, we'll see just how many back away from these insane California requirements...can't say I blame them
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Soon the only handguns on the roster will be the Hi Point 9mm and Phoenix Arms 22. Stand by.
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Thanks, do we know how much longer before they go off?
http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/

Ruger semi-auto pistols
P4MKIII / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4" .22 LR 2/24/2014
MKIII4 / Steel Pistol 4.75" .22 LR 2/24/2014
KP512MKIII / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 5.5" .22 LR 2/24/2014
MKIII6 / Steel Pistol 6" .22 LR 2/24/2014
MKIII678 / Steel Pistol 6.875" .22 LR 2/24/2014
LC9 (Blued) 03200 / Alloy; polymer Pistol 3.12" 9mm 3/7/2014
LC9-R 03220 / Alloy; Polymer Pistol 3.12" 9mm 3/14/2014
LC380 (Black) 03219 / Stainless Steel; Polymer Pistol 3.40" .380 Auto 3/14/2014
KSR9C-10-CF 03333 / Polymer; Stainless Steel Pistol 3.5" 9mm 3/14/2014
KSR45 03801 / Stainless Steel; Polymer Pistol 4.5" .45 ACP 3/14/2014
BSR9C-10L (Black) / Alloy Steel Slide; Polymer Frame Pistol 3.5" 9mm 3/17/201
KSR40C-9L (Two-Tone) 03478 / Stainless Steel Slide; Polymer Frame Pistol 3.5" .40 S&W 4/17/2014
BSR40C-9L (Black) 03479 / Steel Slide; Alloy Frame Pistol 3.5" .40 S&W 4/17/2014
P45GCMKIII / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.5" .22 LR 4/25/2014
P345PR / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.2" .45 Auto 5/27/2014
KP95PR / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.9" 9mm 5/27/2014
P95PR / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.9" 9mm 5/27/2014
KMKIII45HCL (Stainless) / Stainless Steel Pistol 4.5" .22 LR 5/29/2014
KMKIII45H (Stainless) / Stainless Steel Pistol 4.5" .22 LR 6/25/2014
Target MRKIII P512MKIIIRPBLK 10158 / Steel; Polymer Pistol 5.5" .22 LR 6/26/2014
MKIII512 / Steel Pistol 5.5" .22 LR 8/10/2014
KP345PR / Stainless Steel and Polymer Pistol 4.2" .45 Auto 8/10/2014
KMKIII512 / Stainless Steel Pistol 5.5" .22 LR 8/20/2014
KP345 / Stainless Steel; Polymer Pistol 4.2" .45 Auto 9/15/2014
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I wonder how small the Roster has to dwindle to in size before we can win a lawsuit against it as an effective gun ban? Where is the tipping point?
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I wonder how small the Roster has to dwindle to in size before we can win a lawsuit against it as an effective gun ban? Where is the tipping point?
a lack of guns would still keep it in effect, because public safety.
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a lack of guns would still keep it in effect, because public safety.
I think it is an easy argument to call it a de facto ban on the 2nd if that is the case. Judging by the 9th's Peruta decision, they wouldn't have much a leap to conclude that and void the Roster as unconstitutional. But I am sometimes overly hopeful.
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So I dont get it 3rd largest state. Largest population of any state. All gun manufacturers are letting this market go? Will this open the state to a law suit? If hand guns cant be sold here do to government restrictions, is that not a violation of our civil rights?
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So I dont get it 3rd largest state. Largest population of any state. All gun manufacturers are letting this market go? Will this open the state to a law suit? If hand guns cant be sold here do to government restrictions, is that not a violation of our civil rights?
They aren't letting go as much as you think, plus they are worried about the risk some jack hole in the state government might sue them like those states that tried to sue gun manufacturers for damages from the criminal misuse of firearms, particularly in mass shootings. Many on the left still clamor for such lawsuits to defeat "the gun manufacturers of death who are the real money behind the NRA". More than a few actually say that and believe it.

While Kalifornistan is the 3rd largest state in *population* it accounts for only 10% of the firearms sales in the USA. Yes. That's right. The left-coast leftist progressive nature of the people (as we see in who they elect) tends to make them not buy firearms (fishing and hunting license purchases decline every single year in CA despite the population growth by the way). This is why many of us believe only the courts can save us in this state—the people never will because they fear firearms and anyone who wants them and they hate hunting and fishing.
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Today was a game changer. This will be in the headlights next.
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Today was a game changer. This will be in the headlights next.
I sure hope so and it is progressing. The initial comments by the judge in denying Kamila Harris's request for summary judgment were positively heart-warming .
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Well, I found the handgun I purchased ahead of the ban - the Ruger LC9 - I can pick it up next week. My question is this: I qualified for my ccw with a Ruger SP101 .357, a gun I owned for years before I decided to go for ccw - but the .357 is a bit heavy to carry so I bought the LC9 and intended to qualify with it and add it to my ccw. Does the fact that it can no longer be sold mean I cannot qualify with it and add it to the ccw?
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Well, 5 more have dropped of and another 4 are expected today.
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Good Bye February....and good bye to the 47 handguns that were dropped off the roster.

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the Roster is ever more clearly an unconstitutional infringement and we'll win. I can't wait.
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Can a gun that has fallen off the (Communist-socialist F'ing-Nazi anticonstitutional) roster be sold private party-2-Private Party?
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