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Old 01-04-2014, 8:33 PM
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Default Gun lock charge?

I recently jailed a revolver from Turners. Apparently the gun does not come with a lock so I have 2 options.
1. Pay a 6.00 charge for a gun lock.
2. Bring in a DOJ approved gun lock with a reciept that proves the lock was purchased in the last 30 days when I pick up the gun. This somewhat sucks as I have an extra lock sitting around.

Since the firearm I purchased has an internal lock can't this fulfill the obligation of having a lock? My assumption of this is based on the fact that if the manufacturer of the revolver does not ship it out with a lock they are in within the laws of Cali in regards to firearms locks.

Just lookin for some answers....
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Old 01-04-2014, 10:26 PM
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Wouldn't unfortunately cover for California compliance. Turner's has to follow DOJ laws requiring all handguns to go home with a California approved lock specific to the gun you are trying to purchase. An original manufacturer lock as long as approved by California will suffice but if the lock does not come factory, then the purchaser will have to show proof of purchase of an approved lock to show you are being compliant with child safety regulations. Many of us have stacks of locks at home that wont work for new purchases because they are not fulfilling the "purchased within 30 days" junk.
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Old 01-04-2014, 10:39 PM
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No . If the manufacturer does not supply a lock you must purchase one. The other option is if you have a gun safe you can sign a gun safe affidavit saying you own a gun safe. I'm not a turner's employee but I've bought several guns from them and This has been my experience.
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sign the waiver for a gun safe...
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I was told that the gun safe waiver was only for long guns?
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I keep a sealed packaged lock on hand. Oh I need a receipt to go with it?

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i used the safe affidavit yesterday at turners on a semi auto handgun that doesn't come with a lock.
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Buy the lock. Then return it next time you go back
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can you return the lock?
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Default Too Lock or Not Too Lock that is the Question

Even though I have a GUN SAFE ,, I was still Forced to Purchase Cable Lock and Yes I also have several extra locks around













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I recently jailed a revolver from Turners. Apparently the gun does not come with a lock so I have 2 options.
1. Pay a 6.00 charge for a gun lock.
2. Bring in a DOJ approved gun lock with a reciept that proves the lock was purchased in the last 30 days when I pick up the gun. This somewhat sucks as I have an extra lock sitting around.

Since the firearm I purchased has an internal lock can't this fulfill the obligation of having a lock? My assumption of this is based on the fact that if the manufacturer of the revolver does not ship it out with a lock they are in within the laws of Cali in regards to firearms locks.

Just lookin for some answers....
Thanks
Some internal locks are DOJ approved and will meet the state's FSD requirement. What gun did you buy?
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Even though I have a GUN SAFE ,, I was still Forced to Purchase Cable Lock ...
Was this for a handgun? The safe affidavit works for long guns but the Federal lock requirement for handguns does not have any provision for gun safe exemptions.
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I have never been able to sign the safe exemption for a handgun . Buy a cable lock and return it or print your own receipt on computer. Be proactive.
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The sales reps at turners have a nasty habit of selling gun locks without telling you your options (long guns). I had to tell the rep I have a safe and don't need a lock. Most new hand guns come with factory cable locks. You can always return the lock back to Turners when you are done with it.
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Old 02-01-2014, 7:35 AM
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Went to bass pro for a ftf transfer. Apparently, they require a purchase of a lock ($5) even though the seller provided the oem trigger lock on the shotgun. They also wouldn't accept a safe afadavit. The rep said it's their company policy
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If you have an old cable lock but no receipt you can sell if to someone in the store for a dollar, then have them sell if back to you for a dollar. Write out a receipt listing sale date, price, lock model and have both of you sign the receipt.

Or you could not be a cheapo and pay the $6, if your like me you will need all the locks you can get when going to the range in order to lock everything up while traveling.
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Its six bucks man! The Phoenix Arms HP22a that I purchased came with a non-California approved lock which meant I had to buy a $6.00 lock.
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Old 02-23-2014, 7:58 AM
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Because California is a shared liability state the only way that Cali can hold you responsible to properly secure your firearm and hold you accountable when little Johnny steals you crappy handgun and hurts or kills someone is to REQUIRE that the gun is supplied with a California approved locking device. The invoice MUST reflect the purchase of said lock as the DROS has a make and model description for compliance and cross reference. You can supply your own lock, purchased within 30 days and accompanied with an original receipt, at the time of DROS. It's a law! Not some Turner's conspiracy! It's a purchase of a handgun, it's not like you are buying a toaster oven.
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Old 02-23-2014, 8:04 PM
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Wouldn't unfortunately cover for California compliance. Turner's has to follow DOJ laws requiring all handguns to go home with a California approved lock specific to the gun you are trying to purchase. An original manufacturer lock as long as approved by California will suffice but if the lock does not come factory, then the purchaser will have to show proof of purchase of an approved lock to show you are being compliant with child safety regulations. Many of us have stacks of locks at home that wont work for new purchases because they are not fulfilling the "purchased within 30 days" junk.
since the OP's handgun came with an internal lock, it satisfies federal handgun safety lock requirements.
922(z) Secure Gun Storage or Safety Device.—
(1) In general.— Except as provided under paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for any licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to sell, deliver, or transfer any handgun to any person other than any person licensed under this chapter, unless the transferee is provided with a secure gun storage or safety device (as defined in section 921 (a)(34)) for that handgun.

921(a)
(34) The term “secure gun storage or safety device” means—
(B) a device incorporated into the design of the firearm that is designed to prevent the operation of the firearm by anyone not having access to the device; or

so, based on that, federal law is satisfied with the internal lock, and you now only need to comply with CA law. the OP didn't list what model handgun he was purchasing, but there are some internal locks that are on the roster, so no additional lock is required. And even if the internal lock isn't rostered, the OP could fill out the safe affidavit and be covered.


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sign the waiver for a gun safe...
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I was told that the gun safe waiver was only for long guns?
usually that is the case. the safe affidavit covers CA law for all purchases, but you have to make sure you satisfy federal law as well for handgun transfers, and that usually forcloses the safe affidavit for handguns.

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Some internal locks are DOJ approved and will meet the state's FSD requirement. What gun did you buy?
and even if it didn't meet CA FSD requirements, it should have met federal law and allowed for the safe affidavit to be used.

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Because California is a shared liability state the only way that Cali can hold you responsible to properly secure your firearm and hold you accountable when little Johnny steals you crappy handgun and hurts or kills someone is to REQUIRE that the gun is supplied with a California approved locking device. The invoice MUST reflect the purchase of said lock as the DROS has a make and model description for compliance and cross reference. You can supply your own lock, purchased within 30 days and accompanied with an original receipt, at the time of DROS. It's a law! Not some Turner's conspiracy! It's a purchase of a handgun, it's not like you are buying a toaster oven.
but the OP's handgun did come with a lock that satisfies federal law, so all he needs to do is satisfy CA law, and depending on the model of handgun he transfered, he might have already complied with the law, or at the least been able to fill out the safe affidavit.
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Hahaha really the turners in rancho released my handgun and purchase a box of ammo and exit the store without a lock. It was the mgr haha
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