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Old 12-30-2013, 2:28 PM
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Problem with a round like that for most hunter people is that there's not a lot of factory ammo nor a good selection of factory ammo. And the marginal advantage of a unique round, no matter how awesome it is, is irrelevant. At 200-300 yds, it simply will not matter one iota.

So it'll be too expensive and difficult to shoot. It's really a reloaders cartridge. Hunters should practice and shoot more than a box a year.

I know it's droll, commonplace, and perhaps mundane, but the 30-06 is still the best overall choice. I'd argue that for any new hunter (and pretty much any hunter for that matter) there really is only one choice: '06. There's nothing it can't do as well as any other round and it's everywhere.

Sure the 270 is everything the '06 is. As is the 7mag. Fine. And both are great choices too. But I just think that the case has been made for 100+ years.
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i was going to say .454 casual but like the dog spear thing better ,yeap like a boss
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.308 Win - but...

If I knew I would never take a shot past 200, I'd run a .358 winchester
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I have been hunting hogs since I was a kid. I would say that in CA you would want to only use a 308 and up for clean one shot kills.
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What magnification of scope should I use for 100-150yards max shot?
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What magnification of scope should I use for 100-150yards max shot?
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Good ol' 3-9, Bushnell and Nikon offer some great options.
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What magnification of scope should I use for 100-150yards max shot?
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The Weaver 1x-3x on my rifle above is around $160 or so.
It's a perfect pig scope.
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Here's my thought process by the gun once, hunt everything! For that grab a 300 win mag. It will do anything a 30.06, 270 or a .308 will do, only better. Pigs r easier to kill if u know what ur doing. This ain't a whitetail, a gut shot on a pig is a terrible ordeal, think of them as Sherman tanks with floppy ears. A well shot sportsman with a shot placed behind the eye in a quartering shot will drop any hog along with a neck shot below the ears.

When I got a .450 bushmaster the game changed on pure penetration. 250 grains doesn't stop easily.

A 300 win mag will shoot flatter, faster, have more kinetic energy on impact and have more ammo readily available than any other cartridge mentioned

I can't get 30.06 at Walmart but they always have 300 win mag
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Any one used 12 gauge slugs?
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Any one used 12 gauge slugs?
They do the job! I haven't personally but my uncle swears by them
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When S&W first put out the .357 they hired a pro hunter to kill every type of game animal with the standard 6" revolver. At the S&W Headquarters they have a mounted Kodiak Bear that was killed at 17yds with a single .357 round.
The lead hunting ban renders the .357 a bit less lethal, though still a decent choice. My pig gun is pump action 30 06 carbine. Never seen an 800 lb pig outside of a pen, but every one I've hit with the 30 06 was dead right there. 12 gauge slugs would be more than up for the job but they beat the piss out of you.
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My go to guns for pig hunting are my 450 Marlin or my 45-70 Marlin.
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Thank you to all and your responses, I bought a Ruger All American 30 06. Very nice bolt and pad. It also comes with a pre mounted rail and swivels.
Out the door at BPS $461. Brian compared it with higher end guns. The safety placement is right where it should be.
Ill p/u on 1-6-2014. Pig hunt on the 26. Ill take pics and report on the results of the All American.
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Nice purchase...a friend of mine was thinking of that gun but in a different caliber for a different reason...then he went with a fun purchase and got a lever action .357...why? He told me but I still don't understand but it was a "fun" gun...that's all I need to know.

I don't think I saw a post yet about your hunt
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For those not familiar. Some areas in CA are shotgun only (FHL has shotgun only zones).

The downside to shotguns is the obvious range limitation. Also finding non-lead slugs in the condor zone that group well out of your shotgun can potentially be challenging.
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Any one used 12 gauge slugs?
I've taken several deer and pigs with a Savage model 210 and Barnes slugs while hunting on military bases. My go to caliber for pigs is a 30-06 but I have taken them with everything from archery to muzzle loaders. Get close, wait for a clean shot and focus on shot placement.
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I typically use my .300 win mag. But I got a guided hunt this weekend and am going with the BAR 7 mag on this one. If I do my job, this will be my 8th pig this year. I love pork chops and haven't bought a store pork chop in almost a full year.
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I have two 30-30 lever guns (one Winchester, one Marlin) a two Remington Model 81s (300 Savage and 35 Remington), a Savage .270 and a Marlin 1895 in .450 Marlon. I would not hesitate to use any of them on pigs. Must admit to a bias towards big holes in nasty-tempered animals, so would probably gravitate to the Model 81 .35 Remington or the Marlin in .450 Marlin.

I know people who hunt pigs with their ARs in 5.56, but shot placement becomes a LOT more critical.
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I used a .300 win mag and loved watching the pig fall DRT and roll down the hill. With copper it didn't damage much meat at all. Did turn the heart into jello though.
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that's too bad. With some onions and fish sauce the heart is really, really tasty.
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im too much of a sissy to eat hearts. Had cow once, and it was too rich for me!
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then you MUST try this:

slice the heart as thin as you possibly can. right down to carpaccio thin if you have the knife skills. Soak in STRAIGHT fish sauce (I know, really weird, but it's Vietnamese, and it's delicious)

heat some oil in a wok or whatever you want to stir fry in. Toss in green onion sliced thin. When aromatic, toss in sliced yellow onion. When almost translucent, toss in garlic. When aromatic, toss in beef heart (drain all that fish sauce!!) and cook for a minute or two. Salt and pepper if needed (maybe a smidge of pepper, salt unlikely).

Takes 3 minutes to do while you are taking care of the meat, and makes for a lovely meat butchering snack.

Not too rich cause you are eating so little of it at each go.

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as soon as I read "straight fish sauce" I thought it was gonna be awful. It was perfect.
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I have two 30-30 lever guns (one Winchester, one Marlin) a two Remington Model 81s (300 Savage and 35 Remington), a Savage .270 and a Marlin 1895 in .450 Marlon. I would not hesitate to use any of them on pigs. Must admit to a bias towards big holes in nasty-tempered animals, so would probably gravitate to the Model 81 .35 Remington or the Marlin in .450 Marlin.

I know people who hunt pigs with their ARs in 5.56, but shot placement becomes a LOT more critical.
35 Remington is really good. Some one should make a bolt action chambered for it. I think it would make a good scout rifle or a hog hunter type rifle.
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Can't find any bolt guns currently being manufactured in .35 Remington, but there have been some made in the past. there is a Remington Model 600 in .35 Remington on Gun Broker right now. They are out there but you might have to spend some time looking.
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30-06, 45-70, 300 win mag are my favorites
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Can't find any bolt guns currently being manufactured in .35 Remington, but there have been some made in the past. there is a Remington Model 600 in .35 Remington on Gun Broker right now. They are out there but you might have to spend some time looking.
That's what I'm talking about. That would be the perfect bolt action hog rifle imo anyway.
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got my only pig so far, with Savage 99 in 300 Savage. That is a great combo; nice cartridge(base for 308) in a solid handy lever action...
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That's what I'm talking about. That would be the perfect bolt action hog rifle imo anyway.
The 375 Winchester in a Lever gun should also be good hog medicine.
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338 Hog Hunter by Savage. Big bump up from 30-06.

http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/D...&zipcode=95014

Nice price, good reviews, comes with iron sights, threaded barrel, handy length. 338 should give you range, but 20" barrel still handy. Could be "scout" or urban anti-bodyarmor sniper.

Only down side is ammo cost even bigger bump up from 30-06, but if you ONLY gonna use for pigs, might as well get a gun CALLED a Hog Hunter.
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then you MUST try this:

slice the heart as thin as you possibly can. right down to carpaccio thin if you have the knife skills. Soak in STRAIGHT fish sauce (I know, really weird, but it's Vietnamese, and it's delicious)

heat some oil in a wok or whatever you want to stir fry in. Toss in green onion sliced thin. When aromatic, toss in sliced yellow onion. When almost translucent, toss in garlic. When aromatic, toss in beef heart (drain all that fish sauce!!) and cook for a minute or two. Salt and pepper if needed (maybe a smidge of pepper, salt unlikely).

Takes 3 minutes to do while you are taking care of the meat, and makes for a lovely meat butchering snack.

Not too rich cause you are eating so little of it at each go.

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as soon as I read "straight fish sauce" I thought it was gonna be awful. It was perfect.
I will give that a try when I get a pig this year...that is if the heart isnt destroyed!
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I've used a rifled shotgun barrel with sabot slugs, but that was a few years back. I have little ones now and have not hunted in 6 years or so. I use a regular 870 with a rifled barrel I bought from Cabelas and a Bushnell scope on top. Does about 3 inch group or less. As I've gotten older, I've become recoil sensitive and don't really shoot that anymore. If I do get to hunt in rifle country, I use a 308 with Barnes bullets and my handloads, brushy areas, I use an Encore handgun in 308 with a 10mm, full loads with Silvertips, as back up. Amazing what a muzzle brake can do for recoil. The Encore has reduced loads with a brake.

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I've used a rifled shotgun barrel with sabot slugs, but that was a few years back. I have little ones now and have not hunted in 6 years or so. I use a regular 870 with a rifled barrel I bought from Cabelas and a Bushnell scope on top. Does about 3 inch group or less. As I've gotten older, I've become recoil sensitive and don't really shoot that anymore. If I do get to hunt in rifle country, I use a 308 with Barnes bullets and my handloads, brushy areas, I use an Encore handgun in 308 with a 10mm, full loads with Silvertips, as back up. Amazing what a muzzle brake can do for recoil. The Encore has reduced loads with a brake.
Little ones and 6 years? Sounds like a hunting buddy or two that is upon us!
My oldest is four and isnt ready....yet
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Any one used 12 gauge slugs?
I've killed a couple with 20 gauge slugs out of rifled slug barrels.. One with a Federal round loaded with a Barnes saboted copper bullet..... excellent performer, and the pig died before it finished falling down.. Another with a Duplek...... got the job done, but not as accurate and made a mess with the expanding steel petals.
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What magnification of scope should I use for 100-150yards max shot?
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Leupold makes a specific Hog reticle called "Pig Plex" and have a great scope the VX-HOG 1-4x20mm Riflescope. Opticsplanet has them for $229. This scope is unbelievably clear and crisp with it's Mark 4 lenses and coatings.
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