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Old 12-22-2013, 8:02 AM
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This guys is shady! Don't do any business with him!

The deal felt ok, we met at a 7-11 parking lot and I traded my 9mm for his .45Auto ammo. Once i got home i started transferring the ammo from the boxes he gave me to my ammo bins and noticed some different ammo randomly placed in the middle of the batches. He was suppose to be giving me ALL Winchester 230gr FMJ ball factory new ammo. I started looking at everything closely and here's what i came to find... there were a bunch of flat nose ammo in there,...there were some BAD reloads in there...there were even a few misfired rounds. SHADY!!! who does that?
I text this guy and PM him and i don't get a response all day. After the 2nd or 3rd PM he responds to me and basically says tough luck, you should have checked everything carefully. We wanted me to inspect 600 rounds very carefully???? C'mon...seriously. That tells me he did this on purpose!
DON'T EVER DEAL WITH THIS GUY. HE'S SHADY!!!




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Old 12-22-2013, 8:05 AM
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sorry to here! Good thing you inspected the rounds!!
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Old 12-22-2013, 8:07 AM
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Negative feedback him. What's his itrader look like?
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Old 12-22-2013, 8:08 AM
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That blows invite him out for a drink. No bueno Alfredo carbon
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talk to mods and give him negative feedback
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Old 12-22-2013, 8:10 AM
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Negative feedback him. What's his itrader look like?
his itrader feedback was 100%...thats why i dealt with him.
i left him negative feedback already but just wanted to warn the other LA folks.
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Old 12-22-2013, 8:11 AM
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Old 12-22-2013, 8:11 AM
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What a guy " ALFREDO399", don't worry karma will get him.
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Old 12-22-2013, 8:24 AM
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Old 12-22-2013, 8:36 AM
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Thanks for the warning. Won't deal with this guy
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Old 12-22-2013, 8:36 AM
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So, where's the calguns meet in Simi Valley tonight?
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Old 12-22-2013, 8:38 AM
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Dam that SUCKS
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Old 12-22-2013, 9:00 AM
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That really sucks OP. Sorry to hear that. Good on you for outing the guy.
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Old 12-22-2013, 9:19 AM
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Thanks for outing him. That's pretty shady if you ask me!
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Old 12-22-2013, 9:22 AM
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Too bad he did not respond to you and make it right...
Why trash your Rep over a few bullets? Makes no sense to me.....
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Old 12-22-2013, 9:29 AM
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Just tell him your ammo was recalled lol
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Old 12-22-2013, 9:42 AM
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Crazy his rep was real good before I wonder what happened?
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Old 12-22-2013, 9:49 AM
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That's BS!
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Old 12-22-2013, 9:54 AM
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wtf, thanks for the heads up.
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Old 12-22-2013, 10:43 AM
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I was pretty pissed at first but I'm slowly getting over it.
Just can't believe how a person packs misfired ammo into a box and tries to sell it off. And the reloaded ammo too...I'm speechless.

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Old 12-22-2013, 11:04 AM
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Here's the pic of the reloads. The pictures don't show it too well but the projectiles are heavily wrinkled. None of my reloads have ever come out this bad. I'm definitely not going to shoot these since i'm not sure what and how it's loaded.



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Old 12-22-2013, 11:11 AM
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I'm sure this misunderstanding can be worked out before bashing him here on CGN. I've encountered (what I originally thought) many shady members & vendors here. I did give them some time to make it right before I had to publicly bash them here.
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Old 12-22-2013, 11:14 AM
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I'm sure this misunderstanding can be worked out before bashing him here on CGN. I've encountered (what I originally thought) many shady members & vendors here. I did give them some time to make it right before I had to publicly bash them here.
Did you read the OP's statement of "I text this guy and PM him and i don't get a response all day. After the 2nd or 3rd PM he responds to me and basically says tough luck, you should have checked everything carefully."
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what a trip
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Old 12-22-2013, 11:26 AM
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OP, looks like you did everything you could to make it right. The world we live in today is full of turds. You found one. I Traded a spam can of Mosin ammo for 2000 rounds of various 22 lr from craigslist. It turned out perfect, something that should be expected from a public forum and a member in good standing.
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Old 12-22-2013, 11:27 AM
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Old 12-22-2013, 11:30 AM
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Wow. Sorry to hear that.
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Old 12-22-2013, 11:36 AM
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Just to show it's not a misunderstanding. Here's the PM's. Tells the tale


My first PM to him since he wasn't responding... sent on 12/21/13

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Alfredo,
I have to be honest with you. I'm not happy with the ammo you gave me. When I got home I went through it and its a grab bag of different types of ammo. There are flat nose ammo...there are a few rounds that look like they're reloads, there are a few misfired rounds in there. I was straight up with you and gave you brand new factory ammo, not a surprise batch like you gave me. I didn't think I'd have to look at every single round you gave me but that's what its come to.
I don't trust shooting this ammo you gave me so I wanna trade it back. You give me mine back, I give you yours back and I won't report a negative feedback. We can do this tomorrow morning or another time.

After no response again....another PM...sent on 12/22/13

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Alfredo,
You need to call me back, text me back or reply to my PM. Otherwise I'm reporting a negative itrader experience and post up about you.
His response this morning...

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I did text you back yesterday , and stop threatening , you should have checked it at the time of the trade and everything should have been compromised right there.I had some bad deals in the passed but never threatened anybody.look at it the other way around , see how it feels, i drove 50 miles for this.
He claimed to have sent me text messages but i still have not received anything from him. His message sums everything up as if he's paying it forward. Just because he had bad dealings doesn't mean you should try to pull any shady crap.
It's not a misunderstanding when you put reloaded ammo and misfired ammo in a box and try to sell it as factory new. There's no excuse for that, he consciously did that.
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Old 12-22-2013, 11:40 AM
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I'm sure this misunderstanding can be worked out before bashing him here on CGN. I've encountered (what I originally thought) many shady members & vendors here. I did give them some time to make it right before I had to publicly bash them here.
Interesting post from ALFREDO399's "friend" on calguns ?
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There is NO EXCUSE for those primer strikes rounds.

Holy cow.
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Old 12-22-2013, 11:47 AM
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Wow what a bad excuse for pulling such a douche move.
Your dealing with live ammo here you!
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He was suppose to be giving me ALL Winchester 230gr FMJ ball factory new ammo.
He said she said. Is there any evidence that the quality of ammo was determined? the OP's for trade post has been edited.
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Old 12-22-2013, 11:59 AM
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Interesting post from ALFREDO399's "friend" on calguns ?
What's so interesting about my post? Yeah I have a few members that I friend requested. I'm not replying to cover for him if that's what you think. I've made many of deals on here buying, selling and trading. I've gone out of my way to make deals happen only to get home and realized that what I just picked up is not what I expected. No I didn't call it a lost nor did I lose my head over it. I did give it time for that person/vendor to make it right so I didn't have to go to extreme measures.
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What a douche!
Sorry to hear of your misfortune OP.
I hate wishing bad on people, but he sounds like a terrible person. I hope the ammo you gave him blows up one of his guns.
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Old 12-22-2013, 12:05 PM
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He said she said. Is there any evidence that the quality of ammo was determined? the OP's for trade post has been edited.
That thread hasn't been edited since 12/14/13.
and i edited that to add that i'm willing to trade it for .45acp

the last time i even touched that thread was on 12/16/13 to say that a trade is pending. check your facts.

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Yeah that's bad business
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What a douche!
Sorry to hear of your misfortune OP.
I hate wishing bad on people, but he sounds like a terrible person. I hope the ammo you gave him blows up one of his guns.
i certainly don't wish him ill will. it's only money...it's not like he hurt me. but i get your point.
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Old 12-22-2013, 12:11 PM
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Overal... Be honest (should be a habit when dealing in calGUNs).
Check ammo.

We don't want to ruin any honor system.
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No excuse for pawning off bad ammo as "factory new" especially considering the safety problems involved.

The only acceptable response should have been, "I'm so sorry there was a mixup, give me a chance to make it right".
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Hard to trust junior members
I try to deal with people who have established there name around here
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