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Old 12-19-2013, 5:37 PM
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Got my shipping confirmation. Hopefully it will be my surprise Xmas present.
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I got mine as well. Very excited. Any updates or news on the manual and video? Thanks!

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Will the Lowers ship with the Jig? You could save me some ammo duckets by shipping them at the same time..
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Will the Lowers ship with the Jig? You could save me some ammo duckets by shipping them at the same time..
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Postman just dropped mine off -

Fits the QD lower perfect!!!

Only minor issue - no instructions shipped with mine.

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Cool, Should be a Good Christmas for lots of us..
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Postman just dropped mine off -

Fits the QD lower perfect!!!

Only minor issue - no instructions shipped with mine.
Break out the video camera and start making a how-to for everyone else!
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Received the shipped message as I was leaving on vacation. Oh well, it might be for the best. I am sure there will be plenty of information, videos, etc by the time I return home.
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Manual will be posted on our website within days, possibly as soon as tomorrow. It's going through a final edit right now. Will provide link shortly.

How to video has been shot. It's being edited now and will be up very soon.
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Postman just dropped mine off -

Fits the QD lower perfect!!!

Only minor issue - no instructions shipped with mine.
No quite a "perfect" fit for the QD lower.

The rounded trigger guard sits just a few hundredths below the jig.

Depth of the jig 2.946"
Depth of the QD lower's trigger guard 2.963"

After playing around with the jig last night I think I've figured out how its used, I'm going to try and work out the measurements for the depth gauges to see what they reference. I'm assuming that unlike a traditional jig, which is supposed to be used with a drill press - the guide for the plunge cuts in the trigger pocket are supposed to be left on while using a hand drill?

Also - still need tooling requirements, would have been nice to had this - as now the delays in shipping and the delay in instruction manual is going to make ordering tooling a b**** since you're now pushing it right up until Christmas day. A lot of places close between Christmas and New Years...

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I just received jig thanks... Just awaiting manual, tool recommendation and video. Likewise is there anyway to make this work on the universal jigs you're selling? Unfortunately the easy jig doesn't fit the cast lowers i bought on gunbroker few months back.
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Hey, guys, just received the jig and lower. Very, very nice. I've played around with it, and I think that I have an idea on how to use it. I may make some (what I think will be) instructions later. Probably not, as the manual and video should be out soon.

Everything in the bubble wrap bag.

Includes:
2 side plates
1 drill plate
1 mill plate for the main FCG pocket (and an unknown hole. Upper receiver tension set screw hole?)
1 mill plate to mill the rear FCG (the upper shelf area) as well as the trigger slot
1 top plate (bare aluminum)
1 spacer (bare aluminum)
10 allen head screws/bolts (4 long, 4 med, 2 short)

Things (I think) you'll need:
1/4" drill or reamer (holes are very tight, more on that later)
3/8" drill (possibly end mill?) for the safety selector and first drill plate
5/32" drill for trigger and hammer pin holes
1/4" end mill for routing (they said 4" long earlier).

Some thoughts:

Very beautiful lower. I really really like this one.

Some of the jig seems a bit unfinished. One of the side plates has two threaded holes that were not anodized. One of these holes seems to have some burrs, and possibly some cutting fluid in it (were these the last minute change? The mating holes are all anodized). No big deal.

The clearance holes are tight. I mean really tight. Normally, I would say that it's a good thing, but you start fighting tolerances when you're trying to put 4 bolts through 4 extremely tight holes. Some of the clearance holes (most actually) I can't even get a 1/4" drill through.

On that note, I think you guys can improve the design, if you don't mind me saying. These suggestions would not only make it easier for the consumer, but may result in less scrap on your end (I'm a manufacturing engineer).

On the side plates, I don't think you need 4 close tolerance holes, you only need the two that go through the take down pin holes of the lower. The other two can have some slop in them.

The drill plates, mill plates, and spacer are all based on the same idea, close tolerance holes to locate the template where it needs to be. That's fine, but you might be able to achieve the same effect using 1 or 2 carefully placed pins. If that is not doable, then maybe make two of the holes tight tolerance, and the other two clearance

Adding more markings on the jig itself could almost eliminate the need for a manual. There appears to be enough space to put some basic instructions.

All in all, I'm very excited for this project. I think that there was some very clever engineering behind the product. If it works out as well as I think that it will, we may be looking at the future of home finished 80% lowers.

Great job, and hurry up with that video!
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I eagerly await the instructions. Also, if you guys could come out with the plates that would allow us to do standard forged lowers as well, that would be greatly appreciated. As I said before, I like your lowers, and I will be using the one I have as soon as the directions are available. But many more people already have TM and other lowers sitting around, and no way to finish them now that the CNC parties are on hold.

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p.s. will you guys be running any kind of after Christmas sale on lowers?
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No quite a "perfect" fit for the QD lower.

The rounded trigger guard sits just a few hundredths below the jig.

Depth of the jig 2.946"
Depth of the QD lower's trigger guard 2.963"

After playing around with the jig last night I think I've figured out how its used, I'm going to try and work out the measurements for the depth gauges to see what they reference. I'm assuming that unlike a traditional jig, which is supposed to be used with a drill press - the guide for the plunge cuts in the trigger pocket are supposed to be left on while using a hand drill?

Also - still need tooling requirements, would have been nice to had this - as now the delays in shipping and the delay in instruction manual is going to make ordering tooling a b**** since you're now pushing it right up until Christmas day. A lot of places close between Christmas and New Years...
Good to know, thanks Bill!

So to fix the longer length of the QD lower you need to add some spacing material on the bottom of the jig so it lies flat? Or?

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Yes, looks very well thought out and I figured out the jist of it just looking at the parts.
Would have REALLY helped if it came with instructions though.
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Good to know, thanks Bill!

So to fix the longer length of the QD lower you need to add some spacing material on the bottom of the jig so it lies flat? Or?

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I have a drill press vice that will hold the jig and the trigger guard for the QD lower fits in between the space seen in the picture.

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I'm going to give this a try as my first 80% project. I'm curious about the anodized/bead blasted finish options. If the anodized lower is used, won't the milling leave areas bare that will need to be re-anodized? If I plan to have the lower Cerakoted would it be better to start out with the raw finish? It looks like only the .308 lower is available with a raw finish; can the non-.308 lower be ordered with a raw finish?
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I'm going to give this a try as my first 80% project. I'm curious about the anodized/bead blasted finish options. If the anodized lower is used, won't the milling leave areas bare that will need to be re-anodized? If I plan to have the lower Cerakoted would it be better to start out with the raw finish? It looks like only the .308 lower is available with a raw finish; can the non-.308 lower be ordered with a raw finish?
There isn't any reason to finish the fc pocket - it looks like this when its done:

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There isn't any reason to finish the fc pocket - it looks like this when its done:
That looks really smooth! Thank you!
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Drum roll please... we present the Easy Jig info page, with link to the manual in PDF format! http://www.80percentarms.com/pages/easy-jig-information

We are still making some minor updates to photos / spelling, but we wanted to get this to you guys asap. Some photos are of prototype parts that may look a tiny bit different from the final production version you received, but it should still be really clear. We put over 100 hours into making this manual super easy to follow, and quite a few beta testers have made nice looking lowers using it as this point. Let us know what you think!

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Only the end mill link works properly. Your part numbers appear to be correct though.

edit: also the link to the manual appears to be for the drill press version, not the router version
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This is getting real. First finished lower post pic!

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Introducing the 80% Arms Easy Jig™. No drill press required to finish your 80% lower!

...You just need a 1/4 inch end mill and 3 inexpensive drill bits.
The manual says this...

Recommended Bits:
1/8” Drill Bit (0.125”)
17/64” Drill Bit (0.266”)
3/8” Drill Bit (0.375”)
7/16” Drill Bit (0.438”)
1/2” Drill Bit (0.500”)
1/4" Carbide Endmill (0.250”) *Minimum 2.5” long
3/8” Carbide Endmill (0.375”) *Minimum 2.5” long

Other Materials Needed:
Drill press with adjustable crank table or feed lever for milling


Things aren't making sense here. It's 1:00 a.m. so maybe it's my fault.
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The manual says this...

Recommended Bits:
1/8” Drill Bit (0.125”)
17/64” Drill Bit (0.266”)
3/8” Drill Bit (0.375”)
7/16” Drill Bit (0.438”)
1/2” Drill Bit (0.500”)
1/4" Carbide Endmill (0.250”)*Minimum 2.5” long
3/8” Carbide Endmill (0.375”)*Minimum 2.5” long

Other Materials Needed:
Drill press with adjustable crank table or feed lever for milling


Things aren't making sense here. It's 1:00 a.m. so maybe it's my fault.
+1. Definitely appreciate all the hard work fellas, but I'd sure like some clarification on how to make the router method work.
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I just ordered my lower and jig. Be my first 80% build.
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1) Love the quality. No doubt these are top tier lowers.

2) I love the design. I really appreciate the attention to detail.

3) I ordered one in black and one in FDE... and the FDE is no where close. It looks much more like a desert tan, than FDE.

(for comparison, the stock is an ERGO F93 Pro in FDE, and the guards are MI's in FDE)




I'll shoot ya an email to hopefully arrange for a return/exchange.
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Drum roll please... we present the Easy Jig info page, with link to the manual in PDF format! http://www.80percentarms.com/pages/easy-jig-information

We are still making some minor updates to photos / spelling, but we wanted to get this to you guys asap. Some photos are of prototype parts that may look a tiny bit different from the final production version you received, but it should still be really clear. We put over 100 hours into making this manual super easy to follow, and quite a few beta testers have made nice looking lowers using it as this point. Let us know what you think!

To those of you still waiting for your jigs, we are building them as fast as we possibly can and will get them into your hands asap. Thanks for all your patience.
The link from the Easy Jig info page brings you to a PDF for the Universal 80% AR-15 Jig NOT the Easy Jig.
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Only the end mill link works properly. Your part numbers appear to be correct though.

edit: also the link to the manual appears to be for the drill press version, not the router version
Oops Junkie noticed this before me.
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Tomorrow is the big day, the first shipment of easy jigs will go out which will cover all pre-orders up to Nov 29. They're getting anodized overnight and are scheduled to ship in the afternoon. Nobody has slept much here lately, but we owe it to you guys to get these out to you as close as possible to the date we promised. We're doing everything we can to make it happen.

Video and manual will be posted any day now, probably by end of weekend.

EDIT: If you ordered after Nov 29 and your jig is not scheduled to ship tomorrow, don't worry, we haven't forgotten you. We are going to be working through Christmas to make sure all pre-orders placed prior to Dec 6 ship by next Friday.
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The manual says this...

Recommended Bits:
1/8” Drill Bit (0.125”)
17/64” Drill Bit (0.266”)
3/8” Drill Bit (0.375”)
7/16” Drill Bit (0.438”)
1/2” Drill Bit (0.500”)
1/4" Carbide Endmill (0.250”) *Minimum 2.5” long
3/8” Carbide Endmill (0.375”) *Minimum 2.5” long

Other Materials Needed:
Drill press with adjustable crank table or feed lever for milling


Things aren't making sense here. It's 1:00 a.m. so maybe it's my fault.
Sorry, that is the universal jig, we linked to the wrong manual. Link is now corrected. Very sorry for the confusion!
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Only the end mill link works properly. Your part numbers appear to be correct though.

edit: also the link to the manual appears to be for the drill press version, not the router version
Link is now corrected! You are correct, accidentally linked to the manual for the universal jig.
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No problem, you are welcome to return or exchange. The way the color looks is heavily dependent on the ambient lighting conditions. We've found it's a closer match to Magpul FDE in sunlight. The pic on our site is of the same color, just different lighting. It has magical color shifting properties in different lighting, we'll call it active camouflage

Achieving a consistent FDE color is very difficult. We use the same company Surefire uses for their FDE colored items. They're the only company we've found who has been able to achieve the same color time after time.

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1) Love the quality. No doubt these are top tier lowers.

2) I love the design. I really appreciate the attention to detail.

3) I ordered one in black and one in FDE... and the FDE is no where close. It looks much more like a desert tan, than FDE.

(for comparison, the stock is an ERGO F93 Pro in FDE, and the guards are MI's in FDE)




I'll shoot ya an email to hopefully arrange for a return/exchange.
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No problem, you are welcome to return or exchange. The way the color looks is heavily dependent on the ambient lighting conditions. We've found it's a closer match to Magpul FDE in sunlight. The pic on our site is of the same color, just different lighting. It has magical color shifting properties in different lighting, we'll call it active camouflage

Achieving a consistent FDE color is very difficult. We use the same company Surefire uses for their FDE colored items. They're the only company we've found who has been able to achieve the same color time after time.
Totally understood and no problem. I'll probably grab another black from ya at the same time. These things are nice!

Email sent. Thanks again.
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Sorry, that is the universal jig, we linked to the wrong manual. Link is now corrected. Very sorry for the confusion!
Cool, everything makes sense now. It looks strait-forward. I'm glad you're making an instruction video to make things really clear.

I'm looking forward to my build project. As soon as I decide on caliber I'll be ordering a couple lowers and a jig. I'm glad to see the optional EZ Jig took kit mentioned.
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I have a jig on order, and just downloaded the instruction manual as well. I ordered the black & decker plunger router and the bits recommended on the list. I'm just wondering, looking at the steps, if the plunger router can be used to drill the selector & trigger holes instead of the hand drill/ drill press. The guide says the template is designed to drill straight and minimizing the chance of drilling at an angle but having the plunger router I believe would help in drilling vertically.
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I have a jig on order, and just downloaded the instruction manual as well. I ordered the black & decker plunger router and the bits recommended on the list. I'm just wondering, looking at the steps, if the plunger router can be used to drill the selector & trigger holes instead of the hand drill/ drill press. The guide says the template is designed to drill straight and minimizing the chance of drilling at an angle but having the plunger router I believe would help in drilling vertically.

The router turns at too high of an rpm for drilling duties. Generally you want to use a lower rpm for drilling metals.
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I'm about 1/4 of the way done with one I started this afternoon..first suggestion is get a drill press. You can hog out fc pocket with a hand drill (have no clue how they did this with a cordless) but it will take you FOREVER..

Now my wife forced me to leave the garage to go to some damn Christmas party. I'll have a little time in the morning to work on it, then I have to get everything cleaned up and get the car in the garage. We're leaving to Sequoia for a week the day after Christmas.
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After machining one these that has already been anodized should I be worried about the newly machined holes not being hardened and wearing out prematurely?
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