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Old 01-31-2008, 9:59 AM
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Default m855 pulled bullets, $45/K

Just passing along some info. These guys have machine pulled m855 for $45/K. I ordered 5K yesterday and they said they had a bunch in stock. Good deal for loading some practice ammo.

http://www.rvow.com/surplus%20bullets.htm
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Man that sweet i really need to get into reloading already maybe with the tax return thanks for the heads up.
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Just a reminder, these are M855, 62gr STEEL core bullets. So they will attract a magnet. And many indoor and outdoor ranges do not allow them.
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just FYI, those projectiles attract a magnet, so they are not range legal (depending on which range you shoot at)

but, killer price!
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lol, i guess Jicko types a bit faster than me.
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The sell m2 ball as well. I may get some to load for my M14. I doubt I'd want to run that threw my Remmy.
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The sell m2 ball as well. I may get some to load for my M14. I doubt I'd want to run that threw my Remmy.
I forgot to ask if they had any in stock. I could use some for the garand.

The webisite hasn't been updated in a while so pricing and availability might not be correct.
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Just passing along some info. These guys have machine pulled m855 for $45/K. I ordered 5K yesterday and they said they had a bunch in stock. Good deal for loading some practice ammo.

http://www.rvow.com/surplus%20bullets.htm

How much was the shipping?
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They use a USPS flat rate box and charge the 9 bucks or so.. They said they can fit 5k of the m855's in there.
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The sell m2 ball as well. I may get some to load for my M14. I doubt I'd want to run that threw my Remmy.
Can M2 Ball be used for reloading .308 (7.62x51) and 7.55 Swiss.
If it works for 7.62x54 as well, I will be the happy camper!
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Can M2 Ball be used for reloading .308 (7.62x51) and 7.55 Swiss.
If it works for 7.62x54 as well, I will be the happy camper!
Dunno about 7.55 Swiss or 7.62x54.

But YES on the .308. You just have to seat it deeper than the original canneullure (crimp).
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I looked into buying some cheap bullets, and found out that some bullets get distorted in the pulling process and must be resized for decent accuracy past 100 yards, so this could be good for practice/plinking ammo, but probably not for anything more demanding.

I've heard not-great things about that distributer, due in part to it being a one-man (or rather, woman) show, so orders get backed up fast and the website gets updated infrequently. To her credit I think she did sign up on arfcom to update some customers w/issues. I think there's still a guy there that's out 1k of brass (maybe more) since August/September and still hasn't been made right.

Let us know if they work out for you.
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I'll let you know. On their website they say they are resized. We'll see.
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Can M2 Ball be used for reloading .308 (7.62x51) and 7.55 Swiss.
If it works for 7.62x54 as well, I will be the happy camper!
m2 will work in both 308 and 7.5 swiss(same caliber, 308) but not as well in 7.62x54(.311, 312). I have bought M2 and M80 balls from River Valley Ord before, they are ususally tumbled collet pulled surplus. Have had a few tracers with the original orange paint tumbled off. Also some M2 balls with different length and jacket thickness.

seat past cannelure(deeper) for 308, seat to chamber length for 7.5swiss.
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The sell m2 ball as well. I may get some to load for my M14. I doubt I'd want to run that threw my Remmy.
I used the m2 ball that i purchased from polygunbag for my M1A and my garand and it's pretty descent at 100 yrd. shooting. Seems they have the same supplier.
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m2 will work in both 308 and 7.5 swiss(same caliber, 308) but not as well in 7.62x54(.311, 312). I have bought M2 and M80 balls from River Valley Ord before, they are ususally tumbled collet pulled surplus. Have had a few tracers with the original orange paint tumbled off. Also some M2 balls with different length and jacket thickness.

seat past cannelure(deeper) for 308, seat to chamber length for 7.5swiss.
My m-44 bbl can handle .308 bullets just fine, but I'd be sure to check first.

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My m-44 bbl can handle .308 bullets just fine, but I'd be sure to check first.
its not a matter of it not being able to handle it, its a matter of accuracy.

using my M91/30
with .308 dia bullets, i get 4"-8" groups at 100 yards.
with .311 dia bullets, today i got 1" groups.
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I've heard not-great things about that distributer, due in part to it being a one-man (or rather, woman) show, so orders get backed up fast and the website gets updated infrequently. To her credit I think she did sign up on arfcom to update some customers w/issues. I think there's still a guy there that's out 1k of brass (maybe more) since August/September and still hasn't been made right.

Let us know if they work out for you.
Ditto. Those are REALLY old prices. The same ones I saw mid last year when there was a huge fiasco with them not shipping ANY orders for months on end, but charging the CC's right away. They were out of stock on most of their stuff then too. Coulda been a correlation ya know...

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I'll let you know. On their website they say they are resized. We'll see.
So, how was the purchasing experience? Did they ship on time?

I'm thinking of picking up M855 and M2 from them.

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Haven't received anything yet, nor heard from her in reply to my emails. Don't order yet. Might not go so well.

BTW: The CC was charged immediately.
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Haven't received anything yet, nor heard from her in reply to my emails. Don't order yet. Might not go so well.

BTW: The CC was charged immediately.
Man over a month and nothing? That sucks!
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There have been some reports on arfcom of this lady (her husband passed away and she is running the place) having people's brass for processing for a few months with no contact. I'm going to have to dispute the charges on my cc I think.
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There have been some reports on arfcom of this lady (her husband passed away and she is running the place) having people's brass for processing for a few months with no contact. I'm going to have to dispute the charges on my cc I think.
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Here is a link to THR that talks about RVO
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Just a heads up... I placed an order for 1k of each , the 62 gr M855 pulled and the new 62 gr w/o cannalure. and I'm not happy. I'll post pics later.

I received them about 2 months later and when I started loading I found MANY to be out of spec. The pulled bullets look like they were pulled with a pair of wire cutters and the ones with no cannalure, many of them were missing the boat tail. It looked as if they didn't go through the shaping process the entire way. Some were missing the boat tail, others were rolled at the bottom but were bulged so when you go to seat the bullet, it opens the case neck too far and the bullet drops into the case.

I talked to the lady when I placed the order and she told me her husband had died and she was trying to hold it all together. It took me a few months of sending emails and leaving messages to get in contact with them to place my order. I never ordered from them before so I can't say how the service was in the past.

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Wow! I hope they don't show up now!
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You might as well scrap those bad ones. I would heat them until the lead runs out of them. Then sell the components. Unless you send them back for refund. It could take you ages to get your money back, if then.
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Damn, those bullets looks nasty. Thanks for the photos but I think I'll stick to wideners.com.
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those are machine pulled. They may not have been resized.
If you try to load them, sometimes(or most of the time for me) the bullet will get stuck in the die and I end up having to take out the depriming rod and punch out the bullet. Depending on the type of your die, it can be a real pain in the behind.

pic 4(from top) are emptied tracer rounds. The "pocket" you see at the end holds the priming compound. I too got a bunch of emptied tracers(M2's). Load'em up. They shoot fine. I save them for the 7.5Swiss since my K31 has a long throat and I can seat them further out.
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Too good to be true. Figures. I was ready to drop $500+ on bullets.

I'm going to do wideners as well I guess.

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You get what you pay for..
I'd have to agree, except when I was buying pulled m855 and m193 from Hi-tech for $27/k and they shot as well as factory new bullets. This was only a year or two ago. I didn't expect these to be so piss poor.

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+1.... that's why i only goes with "premium" components.... afterall, you are investing quite a bit of TIME in this whole reloading business....
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