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Old 01-26-2008, 1:12 PM
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Default What shoots 7.62x54R?

Is there anything besides the Mosin Nagant and the SVD that shoots this round *and is CA legal*?

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Winchester Model 1895, for one...
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SVT-40 and 1919A4 with conversion
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off the top of my head,

PK series machineguns
SVT-40
DP series machineguns
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Wow, lots I didn't know about! Lets revise the question then, I didn't realize how many guns really did fire this round.
What out there shoots 7.62x54R that is CA legal or at least could be CA legal?

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Winchester Model 1895, for one...
I can't find a specimen that lists 7.62x54R only 30/40 Krag. They appear to be way out of my price range though...

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I can't find a specimen that lists 7.62x54R only 30/40 Krag. They appear to be way out of my price range though...

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Thousands were made for Czarist Russia and some were sold commercially in that caliber.
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Wow, lots I didn't know about! Lets revise the question then, I didn't realize how many guns really did fire this round.
What out there shoots 7.62x54R that is CA legal or at least could be CA legal?

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The SVT-40 is 100% CA-legal (and C&R). A PSL can be had CA-legal. The converted 1919A4 is legal.

There was also the SVT-38 (previous design to the -40), and the AVT-40 (like an SVT, but select-fire. Rare as hell, IIRC, and very much not CA-legal.)
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The hard part of the 7.62x54r round is that almost any ammo you buy in that caliber is steel core or bimetel. The only round I've found that isn't is one of the Winchester metric JSP rounds and that was going for almost $1/round

If you can get away with steel core ammo where you shoot it is a heck of a lot of fun to shoot and cheap.
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Actually I'm more concerned with the corrosive ammo that is usually found in that caliber. Cleaning the bolt action rifles is one thing but having to clean up the gas system of some of the others seems like it would be tough.
I still would like to get a semi auto in this caliber though. I think it was j&g that had the PSLs not too long ago.
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I was at the Costa Mesa gun show this afternoon and Ammo Bros of Cypress had a PSL on the table for $999. I'm not sure what they did to it to make it California legal. I didn't see a tab for the magazine release, so it might be a bullet button set-up.
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There really aren't many uses for 7.62x54r. You should just let me take it off your hands as a favor
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1919 with a 7.62x54r conversion.
Where to get -----> http://barrelxchange.com/_wsn/page3.html








DP28




PKM Semi


Where to get------> www.marcolmarfirearms.com

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Actually I'm more concerned with the corrosive ammo that is usually found in that caliber. Cleaning the bolt action rifles is one thing but having to clean up the gas system of some of the others seems like it would be tough.
I still would like to get a semi auto in this caliber though. I think it was j&g that had the PSLs not too long ago.
Meh. Most of the semis listed above are pretty simple. The doesn't the PSL strip down just like an AK? IMO, my AK is easier to clean than my Mosin, even if I had to clean it for corrosive...
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Mosin nagants

got my 91/30 at Big 5 for $89

looks new and shoots decently
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Mosin nagants

got my 91/30 at Big 5 for $89

looks new and shoots decently
That's definetly the easy route. I just don't care much for the Nagant. My brother came across a case of ammo and gave it to me and I thought maybe I'd find a rifle to shoot it. That PKM is cool, but way out of my price range. As is that DP28. I may just trade the ammo for another caliber that I already own. Or sell it outright.

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Thousands were made for Czarist Russia and some were sold commercially in that caliber.
My googlefu was weak. I found a few examples. Thanks for the history lesson!

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I just don't care much for the Nagant.
Nagants are 7.62 Nagant cal, but can be converted to .32 cal with a cylinder swap.
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Nagants are 7.62 Nagant cal, but can be converted to .32 cal with a cylinder swap.
That would be I don't care much for the "Mosin Nagant" not the Nagant revolver.
I've got a case of 7.62x54r that my brother gave me and I was thinking of getting something in that caliber, but I couldn't find anything interesting other than an SVD(which I can't afford) and the Mosin Nagant which never really tripped my trigger. I have since been schooled and there are a number of other rifles chambered in this caliber, some I had forgotten (PKM) others I never even knew existed (DP series guns) and others that led me down an interesting path of history (Winchester 1895/1915s). The end result is all the cool guns are out of my price range ($1000s on up) and the Mosin Nagant is boring to me.

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Just messing with you.

But for the future, the other name for a Mosin-Nagant is simply "Mosin."

Want an interesting Mosin? Check out the Finnish rifles. I know someone who bought a Finnish rifle and when he cleaned it up at home, found tally marks in the stock.

When I heard that, the first thing I thought of was "all that hate's gonna burn you up, boy."
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Just messing with you.

But for the future, the other name for a Mosin-Nagant is simply "Mosin."
10-4 I still don't want a Nagant

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If you don't want a Mosin, the next best choice is the SVT-40, but that's going to run about $1200. Let's see... 'boring' bolt-action for $89, or semi-auto for $1200. $1100 buys a lot of other guns and ammo. If you have ammo, but no gun for it, and you don't want to pony up for the semi-auto choices, maybe the best choice is to sell the ammo.
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If you have ammo, but no gun for it, and you don't want to pony up for the semi-auto choices, maybe the best choice is to sell the ammo.
It's definetly looking that way...

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If you don't want a Mosin, the next best choice is the SVT-40, but that's going to run about $1200. Let's see... 'boring' bolt-action for $89, or semi-auto for $1200. $1100 buys a lot of other guns and ammo. If you have ammo, but no gun for it, and you don't want to pony up for the semi-auto choices, maybe the best choice is to sell the ammo.
Actually SVT-40s routinely go for about $750 on boards like ar15.com. Plus they're C&R, so if you have an FFL03 there's no DROS or waiting period. PSL/FPKs can be had for about the same or even cheaper.
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Actually SVT-40s routinely go for about $750 on boards like ar15.com. Plus they're C&R, so if you have an FFL03 there's no DROS or waiting period. PSL/FPKs can be had for about the same or even cheaper.
That SVD 40 is pretty cool...
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+1 on the PSL.I had one ahwile ago and there cheap,fun to shoot and look way cool.Can get them for under $700 all day long.




SVD's going to the grave yard...





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+1 on the PSL.I had one ahwile ago and there cheap,fun to shoot and look way cool.Can get them for under $700 all day long.




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dude, just figure out what you do want and then trade your ammo for the ammo you need.
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If you have ammo, but no gun for it...
Or you could go into a gun shop with it and start trying to figure out which guns it will fit into.










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dude, just figure out what you do want and then trade your ammo for the ammo you need.
HAHA! Like any of you have what you want figured out!?!? Besides, I'm learning a lot by asking such a vague question. I had never even heard of some of these and everytime I check back, the prices dropped by $50 bucks like that PSL.

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Ok, that's a joke. A really bad joke. Don't do it. I need to sleep.
Yeah, actually I started my quest by asking when I went in if they had anything that shot 7.62x54r (I was picking up a different gun) and they had nothing...

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the Mosin Nagant is boring to me.
How could the rifle that defeated the Nazis be boring?
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How could the rifle that defeated the Nazis be boring?
those rifles didnt defeat the nazzis, the sub 0 freezing cold weather did!

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I don't know about Mosins being boring, however, if I were to get one and I didn't go the cheapo Big 5 M44 for $75 route, I'd definitely look at the Finn M39s.

The M39's are really, really nice.
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How could the rifle that defeated the Nazis be boring?
That rifle is an inanimate object. People defeated the Nazis, not the rifle.

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That would be I don't care much for the "Mosin Nagant" not the Nagant revolver.
I've got a case of 7.62x54r that my brother gave me and I was thinking of getting something in that caliber, but I couldn't find anything interesting other than an SVD(which I can't afford) and the Mosin Nagant which never really tripped my trigger. I have since been schooled and there are a number of other rifles chambered in this caliber, some I had forgotten (PKM) others I never even knew existed (DP series guns) and others that led me down an interesting path of history (Winchester 1895/1915s). The end result is all the cool guns are out of my price range ($1000s on up) and the Mosin Nagant is boring to me.

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Cut the barrel down to 16 inches, put a synthetic stock, red dot scope, forward grip, laser, flashlight, flare launcher, telescoping stock and pistol grip. Don't forget to paint it black.
Oh, I already have one of those, I modified an original Springfield Armory 1903 that my father had when he was a kid. Thank you Tapco!

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