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Old 09-28-2013, 4:42 AM
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Gunfighting is the American Martial Art. Studying it and practicing it as a discipline is no different than studying Tae Kwon Do and purchasing kamas or other weapons inherent in the discipline.

True students approach it with the same respect and ingrained code that the skills are defensive in nature and the number one rule is to avoid and defuse before as a last result these skills must be used in self defense to keep myself and my family alive.

We do not seek out trouble, we avoid it at all costs because we know and understand the gravity of that firearm clearing the holster.

As a Warfighter, I am reminder of a quote by USMC General James "Mad Dog" Mattis: "I come in peace. I didnít bring artillery. But Iím pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you f*ck with me, Iíll kill you all."

After the invasion of Iraq -and after sending his tanks and artillery home- Mattis sent this message to the Iraqi leaders in every area his men served in.
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It all sounds good to me, and very true. If people would take this Approach we would have less problems in the world. The people have lost the respect and honor for each other we once had.
I blame T.V. and lack of good moral Influence.(parenting and Religion)
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Gunfighting is the American Martial Art. Studying it and practicing it as a discipline is no different than studying Tae Kwon Do and purchasing kamas or other weapons inherent in the discipline.
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Many do not understand the operative word - FIGHT.

Training discipline gives the knowledge that if you clear leather it will end badly for the cause of that action - priceless.
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Now if only the vast ignorant masses would understand that....but I think that is too much to hope for. Most people just don't understand it, maybe too much TV and video games, or something in the air.
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Based on his avatar, I'm guessing Collegiate/Olympic, as the guy spinning Bisping's head backwards is none other than US Olympian Dan Henderson.
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I don't think American's have a monopoly on knowing how to engage in and win gunfights... especially considering some of the best instructors I have learned from trained/fought elsewhere.
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I feel that gun fighting is part of the martial arts but not complete. Not every situation calls for a gun but sometimes you do need to go hands on. I feel that everyone should at the bare minimum learn basic self defense and stay in shape. Just because you have a firearm does not mean you can let yourself go. Adrenaline really changes things. If you have an adrenaline dump and need to run to safety, if you're not in shape you're going to gas out and possibly become a sitting duck. I'm not going to "what if" scenarios to death but you should become proficient with firearms, your hands and feet and have the strength and cardio to finish the fight.
I know this may not be optimal for elderly or disabled but if you cannot do things physically you better have well thought out plans and reactions.
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I am inclined to agree.

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As a Warfighter, I am reminder of a quote by USMC General James "Mad Dog" Mattis: "I come in peace. I didnít bring artillery. But Iím pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you f*ck with me, Iíll kill you all."
Thanks for my new signature. Wholeheartedly agree.
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Gunfighting is the American Martial Art. Studying it and practicing it as a discipline is no different than studying Tae Kwon Do and purchasing kamas or other weapons inherent in the discipline.
I have always seen it that way also... and I've taken it more seriously than sports or hobbies... ergo I'm a great shot... but a poor bowler... pathetic at pool... et cetera... even though I like doing those.
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I don't think American's have a monopoly on knowing how to engage in and win gunfights... especially considering some of the best instructors I have learned from trained/fought elsewhere.
I don't really think that relates to his point. Its just that this fighting skill is respected here. Even if it is unconscious and carried via the culture.

There are some Americans who are great at some Japanese martial arts. Doesn't mean Japan doesn't really care about those.
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I don't really think that relates to his point. Its just that this fighting skill is respected here. Even if it is unconscious and carried via the culture.

There are some Americans who are great at some Japanese martial arts. Doesn't mean Japan doesn't really care about those.
Then what's so "American" about training with firearms? It's a fighting skill, sure, but what makes it a whole system? I'm only arguing for argument's sake here (I'm bored), but I'd be alot more inclined to support the position that it is a whole martial arts ystem if it had more components or if it was used as a component of something (say, Krav Maga off the top of my head).

I'm curious to know what you think sets those of us here in America (along with our 300 million firearms, God bless America!) apart from others who train with firearms (and I'm not being facetious here). Americans didn't invent firearms. Americans didn't invent using firearms in warfare (though I'm sure we could find many American's who contributed to the progress in tactics/equipment/etc). We engage in it alot, great, so do the Syrians right now.
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