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Old 09-20-2013, 3:44 PM
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Default 1943 Mosin 91/30 Hex receiver

Hi Guys,

Did Tula make 91/30 Hex receivers until 1943? One of my friends have a 1943 Tula Hex and he wants to sell and I am planning on buying it. I thought Hex receivers are really old 91/30s.

Is it little rare? I mean does it have any collector value?

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check the tang on the receiver. I bet it is a different date. Tula stopped making hex receivers in 1936 I think.
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check the tang on the receiver. I bet it is a different date. Tula stopped making hex receivers in 1936 I think.
I have a 1934 sniper model . Hex receiver PU scope and bayonette matching numbers.
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check the tang on the receiver. I bet it is a different date. Tula stopped making hex receivers in 1936 I think.
what's a Tang? it's engraved 1943 on the receiver. I was reading some post on gunboards talking about this, these are recycled receivers not sure if its correct. check this link. I want to buy it only if its collectable.

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The "tang" is the back part of the reciever that holds onto the stock.

If you look at the cocking knob, it is the part of the reciver right behind it. It will have a screw that holds it onto the stock.


The date is on the bottom, so disassembly of the rifle is required.

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The Finns recycled their recievers, the Russians simply made new ones. Seeing the Soviets re-using one, on a long rifle, is very uncommon.
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what's a Tang? it's engraved 1943 on the receiver. I was reading some post on gunboards talking about this, these are recycled receivers not sure if its correct. check this link. I want to buy it only if its collectable.

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...-receiver-rare
The number that you see is actually on the barrel.
I am guessing it was reworked in 1943 since I don't believe any hex where made that late in the war.
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The number that you see is actually on the barrel.
I am guessing it was reworked in 1943 since I don't believe any hex where made that late in the war.
Are these 1943s very common ?

how about 1928 Hex izvesh? it has marking like these http://62x54r.net/MosinID/0104.jpg


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Are these 1943s very common ?

how about 1928 Hex izvesh? it has marking like these http://62x54r.net/MosinID/0104.jpg


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That would definitely be the "rarer" and more desirable.
BTW - "izvesh" is not a word. Izhevsk, however, is a city, like Tula, were Mosins were manufactured.
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That would definitely be the "rarer" and more desirable.
BTW - "izvesh" is not a word. Izhevsk, however, is a city, like Tula, were Mosins were manufactured.
1943 Tula hex is very common ? will buy both if they are collectable or will just get 1928 Izhevsk.

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Sorry - 1943 Hex is definitely not common, it is an odd duck. Hexes were stopped in 1936, i believe, but 1943 being the height of war - maybe they were re-using some old ones...
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Sorry - 1943 Hex is definitely not common, it is an odd duck. Hexes were stopped in 1936, i believe, but 1943 being the height of war - maybe they were re-using some old ones...
Thank you very much, I will get both then
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Sorry - 1943 Hex is definitely not common, it is an odd duck. Hexes were stopped in 1936, i believe, but 1943 being the height of war - maybe they were re-using some old ones...
This^^

It is a re-used older receiver and is uncommon.
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I have a 1928 Tula Ex-dragoon. Jealous? I know you are.
I'll post a picture of it.
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Here it is.



No that's not rust.

I believe it is a Tula anyway. I've forgotten the details about this rifle but it is sweet as heck. Perfect bore, screw in escutcheon (sp?), tiger stripe arctic birch stock. A beautiful rifle...if I clean it.

Edit: Just looked it up. Yes it is a Tula. But I don't know about the stamp on the hex part.

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Hi Guys,

One more question, are all 1928 and 1929 91/30 Hex receiver rifles ex-dragoon?

On the 1928 Izveshk Hex I was referring to has gap beneath the rear sight and I have also checked a 1929 Izveshk Hex which also has a gap beneath the rear sight.

So does it make both these rifles ex-dragoon?

Please advice.

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Yes, ex dragoon. As the didn't start making the 91/30 till, well 1930
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Hi Guys,

One more question, are all 1928 and 1929 91/30 Hex receiver rifles ex-dragoon?

On the 1928 Izveshk Hex I was referring to has gap beneath the rear sight and I have also checked a 1929 Izveshk Hex which also has a gap beneath the rear sight.

So does it make both these rifles ex-dragoon?

Please advice.

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I just got a Tula that had the tang marked 34 and the orig ail date as 1934, but it must have been jan 1 1935, they restamped the 4 with a lil 5. Sad thing, the stock was all mared up, shelac didn't do well when I tried to clean it with denatured alcohol.
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Yes, ex dragoon. As the didn't start making the 91/30 till, well 1930
Does the collector value decrease/increase if its in laminate stock vs wood stock?

Both 1928 and 29 Hex Izveshvk ones I am planning to buy are in Laminate stock, is it good or bad?

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Does the collector value decrease/increase if its in laminate stock vs wood stock?

Both 1928 and 29 Hex Izveshvk ones I am planning to buy are in Laminate stock, is it good or bad?

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Well, it's like this....

Some prefer an original stock as originality adds value...

Some prefer the laminated stocks due to then being stronger, and in many opinions better looking, so they add value to those...

So take your pick...
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Here's a quick shot of my '28 Tula. Triple MO
It was the first rifle I every bought, about 1.5yrs ago at big 5, couldn't tell ya the difference between a Tula and an Izhevsk, or what people meant by hex. Just thought it was the nicest looking one they had.... I scored big, it's one of only 4 mosins I own, including a PU sniper, m44, and a m39.

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Per this link http://62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinRarity.htm

all laminate stock 91/30s are 6 on a rarity scale of 1-10, is that true?

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I am paying $190 each for 1928, 1929 Dragoon rifles and 1943 Tula Hex. All these 3 Hex Mosins are in Laminated stock.

Is it a decent deal?

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That is slightly below market on hex so yes you are doing ok.
If they are all in laminated stocks then they are definitely not in their original stocks...
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That is slightly below market on hex so yes you are doing ok.
If they are all in laminated stocks then they are definitely not in their original stocks...
Forgot to mention, all stamped matching serial #s and bores are excellent and bright.
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BTW by market I mean FTF CA market, not mail order...
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I am paying $190 each for 1928, 1929 Dragoon rifles and 1943 Tula Hex. All these 3 Hex Mosins are in Laminated stock.

Is it a decent deal?

please advice.
I would say definitely a good deal. Unless someone suddenly dumps another million Mosins on the market, you will not lose money on them.
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I would say definitely a good deal. Unless someone suddenly dumps another million Mosins on the market, you will not lose money on them.
Thanks for the response. Mosins use to be $89 when I got my first 91/30 they are almost double today for just regular ones.
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