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Old 09-19-2013, 7:51 PM
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Default BLO on artic birch

i am refinishing a mosin stock and was thinking of BLO. i like it on walnut stocks. anybody have a pic of how it might turn out with many coats. i am worried it will be to blond and not look Mosin enough . i have some black cherry stain but the last time i tried it the stain rubbed off as i applied the top finish.
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Old 09-19-2013, 8:03 PM
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It will have a more orange cast to it because of the lighter wood color. It will probably look look similar to this http://www.garandgear.com/m1garand/d...l-kit?sef=hcfp. Not deal breaker for me, I think it will still look good.
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Old 09-20-2013, 5:47 AM
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Tru-Oil over a combination of dye and stain. Applied with 0000 steel wool and wiped off immediately after application. About six thin coats. After final coat, lightly rubbed with steel wool and Johnson's Brown paste wax for wood floors. Final 'polish' with a sheepskin bonnet on a drill press. No sanding. Sorry about the sling (old pictures).
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Old 09-20-2013, 7:30 AM
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all of the above look real nice ,thanks for pics. right now i think i will use TUNG oil i already have and not used before. the low gloss . i like the look that does show some use, a few small nicks and all the stampings give it the military look i like. but the stock not looking beat to hell. the wood on this rifle is nice but the finish was just god awful.
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Old 09-20-2013, 8:31 AM
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I stripped a Mosin down and did a straight BLO finish and really liked it. The wood grain came out beautifully. I'll try to find a picture.
Edit: Here's one:
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^ I like that!
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Old 09-20-2013, 9:18 AM
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I have a handi I did this to, complete with fake BLO (home depot, not the real stuff)

But frankly, no need to upload pics, these guys already did. Looks just like post #3
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Just a note on my photo above, I have had no luck at all getting a photo of the blonde rifle that does it justice. Artificial light makes it look darker than it is, and sunlight, even diffused by the trees in the photo above makes it look shiny, which it really isn't.

In person, the finished product looks a lot like the photo of the stripped stock, which also looks brighter in the photo than it did in person.

On edit, I just pulled it out, and the color has darkened slightly from the photo above (that was over a year ago). It looks closer to Standard's photo above. I will see if I can get a decent photo later, maybe I will have better luck this time.

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Old 09-20-2013, 9:46 AM
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go to home depot and buy some 6500 kelvin bulbs. Frankly, I don't use any other temp bulb if I have a choice. My shop is certainly entirely lit by 6.5k
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+1 on the Tung Oil products. It'll look a lot more prototypical but wear better than shellac.
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Old 09-20-2013, 11:21 AM
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birch does not seem to absorb stain very well. i am not looking for a blond finish.

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Just took it outside and tried again, this is actually pretty close to how it looks in person.



This is shellac stripped with denatured alcohol, 4 coats of BLO steel wool scrub, followed by one coat of hand rubbed, drying between coats, and a final coat of Gunny Paste/Tom's 1/3 mix (equal parts Boiled Linseed oil, beeswax and turpentine).
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I prefer a darker look, but I did a carcano NOS stock that hadn't been finished, ever and it came out beautiful. i'll get some pics up tomorrow. BLO looks nice on most kinds of wood as long as they're not really light to start with. BTW, the more layers you put on the darker it gets. I did about 3 or 4 on this carcano. came out pretty nice, although the handguard is obviously a different kind of wood as you will see. will have it up tomorrow.
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no stain i have tried comes close to the normal referb shellac color. some do look nice but not on a battle rifle like a mosin. most just look shades of brown. i have used shellac and my main problem with it is it dries so fast you get brush stroke marks putting it on.
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Minwax Antique Red has worked great for me in the past when trying to emulate a red Soviet stock with blonde wood. You can get the little can for just a few bucks and try it out under the butt plate.
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Not a big fan of no shellac on a Mosin or at least not a red finish of some sort.


Most stock finishes make the M91/30's remind me of Carcanos and Turk GEW 88's.


I really like how MasterChief did his though.
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Old 09-20-2013, 6:15 PM
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well 2 coats of TUNG oil and it is beautiful, this rifle has very nice wood grain. almost like laminated but it is not.the blond is mostly gone but the light brown with good wood grain makes it look like a dear rifle. maybe the antique red is the ticket. anybody know if i can put mini wax over TUNG oil that is dry. i think i cant have what i want . i want a perfect original finish. if you saw how bad the original flaking finish was you would probably re finish it also. i do prefer to leave the wood alone.
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Old 09-20-2013, 9:38 PM
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there was a thread on here not too long ago don't remember who did it but they did a GORGEOUS job of shellac on either a mosin or SKS. I mean it looked tits, lemme see if I can find it.
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....c&"R"....I guess that got lost on this forum though......I sincerely dislike refinished mosins, but you guys are doing amazing jobs on those stock, good work m8s. Still makes me wanna ....lol I just wanted to use that emoticon hehe
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Old 09-21-2013, 8:01 AM
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if my rifle was going to live its life in a safe or just be at my home i also would not refinish this rifle. the finish was ether flaked off with exposed wood or it was super dried out shellac and cosmo that even spray on paint remover would not touch.
the sad thing is these rifles will never see another 70 years. between liberals here and the UN their days are numbered. we need to enjoy them while we can.
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If your starting with a stripped dry stock use a 50/50 mix of BLO/turpentine.

Keep the first coat wet for ten min. and the wipe it off. air dry over night and repeat three or four times finishing with a spit-shine action every few days for as long as you like. Never let a think coat dry always wipe all excess off.

Note that the rags will self ignite in sunshine and burn your shop down.

Many thin coats are 1000 times better than a few thick coats.

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the above PU is very nice, my wood has more grain to it . i am committed to using the big box store TUNG low gloss oil. on my 3rd coat. like the rifle above mine also is a PU 1944 TULA molot. i have a extra un touched but nice stock on the PU right now. if i am happy with the results i may sell the un toucherd inlet-ed stock if somebody has a ex sniper project.
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I was impressed with the work and look of the BLO finish, so I got the gloves on and got to work on my own Mosin Nagant today. I'll post pics of it later. I'm loving the progress.
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I started off by taking a picture of the rifle as is.
I took stripper to it.
I then washed the stock to get the chemicals out.
I soaked the stock and hand guard in a tub and proceeded to steam out the dents.
I allowed the stock to dry.
A coat of BLO was hand applied.
I then added a few more coats

Original shellac

1st coat of BLO(stock) shellac (Hand guard)..for the sake of contrast.

1st coat whole stock

3rd coat


It was a fun project and I really like the result
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the wood grain on this one is very close to the one i am doing. i will post a pic as soon as i am finished.
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