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Old 09-15-2013, 1:11 PM
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Default Veto Flyer to Distribute

Attached is a simple black and white flyer/handout that is printer friendly, no colors, no graphics and no logos. This isn't about art or crediting who did what, it's about getting the word out and getting gun owners educated and involved.

At the bottom of the flyer is permission to use freely and a link to where the .doc file can be downloaded by anyone from printing and use.
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CONTACT GOVERNOR BROWN TODAY!!

This year the California Legislature passed the most restrictive collection of anti-gun laws in decades
DESIGNED TO END GUN OWNERSHIP IN CALIFORNIA!!

Our last chance to stop these laws before having to spend millions to fight them in court for years is for Governor Brown to veto them. Governor Brown needs to be reminded that he has millions of constituents that are law-abiding gun owners, sportsmen and Second Amendment supporters and that Californians do not support outrageous anti-gun and anti-hunting legislation, like those in New York, New Jersey, Maryland and Connecticut or worse.

If we do not stop these bills NOW our children will never know the fundamental rights of self defense, hunting, self reliance and private ownership of firearms nor the freedoms this Country was founded on.

Below are the anti-gun/anti-hunting bills you need to call, fax AND e-mail and urge Governor Brown to VETO.

Governor Brown can be reached at:
Phone: (916) 445-2841
Fax: (916) 558-3160
Email web form: http://www.calguns.net/governor

SB374 - Bans the future sale or transfer of and classifies ALL semi-automatic rifles with a detachable magazine or holding more than ten rounds of ammunition as "assault weapons." Continued legal possession requires that you REGISTER and pay a FEE (TAX) on ALL your semi-autos newly classified as “assault weapons.”

AB711 - Makes California the first state to prohibit the use of all lead ammunition for hunting.

AB48 - Bans the sale of parts and repair kits capable of creating or converting a magazine to a capacity to hold greater than ten rounds.

AB169 - Limits the sale/transfer of all lawfully firearms that were never, or are no longer, on the California roster of approved handguns to two a year and redefines the technical provisions of single shot pistols.

AB231 - Expands the laws relating to firearms storage.

SB299 - Makes it a crime if a person does not report a lost/stolen firearm within 7 days.

SB475 - Would effectively ban the gun shows at the Cow Palace by requiring the approval of San Francisco and San Mateo Counties

AB180 - Repeals state firearms preemption by allowing the City of Oakland to enact gun ordinances that are more restrictive than state laws concerning the registration or licensing of firearms.

SB567 - Redefines shotguns to include any long gun with a rifled bore or a smooth bore, regardless of whether it is designed to be fired from the shoulder and bans the sale of shotguns with the revised definitions that have a revolving cylinder, and requires registration of these currently owned shotguns.

SB683 - Expands California’s Handgun Safety Certificate requirement to apply to all firearms, and prohibits anyone from purchasing or transferring any firearm without a firearm safety certificate.

SB755 - Expands the list of persons prohibited from owning a firearm, including persons who have operated cars and boats while they are impaired commonly referred to as DUI.

Permission to use freely is given, to download a printable version go to http://www.calguns.net/vetoflyer.doc
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"single short pistols"?

Well done otherwise.
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Damn spellcheck, although short WAS spelled correctly!
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Heat of the moment...I bet your fingers were flying to compose that, Kestryll.

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Excellent!!! Thanks.

I'm printing 100 now and will post them

I'm making some changes, changing instances of "Gun" to "Firearms" or "Rifle" to more effectively get everyone involved. Gun or Guns first thought is handguns.
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We'll print a stack off and send them out with every shipment to CA.
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Ah yes, do it for the children! I'll do it for myself, thanks.

Still, the listing of bills is excellent, and thanks for the redirect to the Gov's email page.
I am working through sending him a separate message of opposition for each bill, as well
as a message on the odious "Gun Control" topic.
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Good stuff.
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Damn spellcheck, although short WAS spelled correctly!
The flyer still says " single short pistols".
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Ah yes, do it for the children! I'll do it for myself, thanks.
Screw it, if the antigun crowd is going to play the 'kids card' and 'think of the children' I'll do the same!

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The flyer still says " single short pistols".
I corrected it however since the file server is shared across multiple servers in multiple locations it takes a little bit to sync them.
It should sync up shortly and be correct across all of them.
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Not with that language, neither on this forum nor on the flyer.

Permission tom print and distribute was given, not to alter.



I will distribute, but will add this graphic with it.

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See above^^

There is a reason this is worded as it is, and that reason is NOT to make it offense to fence sitters or gun owners but make it accessible and open to all.

Putting what is frankly a juvenile picture of a puppet using vulgar language is NOT helpful nor is it going to be useful in reaching and educating gun owners unfamiliar with what is going on..
Sure you may preach to a small subset of the choir but other than that what is the use?

Keep whatever other agenda you have out of it.
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Beautiful. Thanks so much. Will paper windshields with them at mall.
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SB374 is center fire only.
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Wondering if I can distribute this around my college without issue.
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Thanks for the flyer. I plan on handing this out to a lot of people in the next few days/weeks.

Sadly, as I've been discussing firearms topics in my social circles, I find that a lot of regular folk DO NOT know anything about the gun control issues. They are turned off by the media rants and they tune it out, completely unaware that our world is about to be turned upside down!

Truly, I think publicity, education and persistence pays off! More of my friends are asking to go out shooting with me! Some have even become gun owners! I am very happy for these folks!
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I'm going to set up in front of a grocery store -

With a banner that states:

STOP THE DISARMING OF LAW ABIDING
TAX PAYING CITIZENS AND VETERANS

Complete with your flyers....
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Wondering if I can distribute this around my college without issue.
Of course you can, it's called freedom of speech and is protected by the First Amendment. If your college gives you problems for expressing your political speech, contact the ACLU and I'm sure they will convince the college of the error of their judgement.
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Of course you can, it's called freedom of speech and is protected by the First Amendment. If your college gives you problems for expressing your political speech, contact the ACLU and I'm sure they will convince the college of the error of their judgement.
ACLU tends to promote liberal freedoms. I wonder if they would care about this.
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I'm going to set up in front of a grocery store -

With a banner that states:

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Complete with your flyers....
Maybe you should use a banner for a conversation starter that illustrates the fundamental fallacy of gun control:

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Do you support taking cars away from sober drivers to help fight drunk driving?
"Well, neither do I. Nor do I support taking firearms away from law abiding citizens when the criminals are the problem."

Just a thought.

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See above^^

There is a reason this is worded as it is, and that reason is NOT to make it offense to fence sitters or gun owners but make it accessible and open to all.

Putting what is frankly a juvenile picture of a puppet using vulgar language is NOT helpful nor is it going to be useful in reaching and educating gun owners unfamiliar with what is going on..
Sure you may preach to a small subset of the choir but other than that what is the use?

Keep whatever other agenda you have out of it.
I understand the need to be "civil" in getting the word out, but maybe something that will grab the attention of the "casual" firearms owner might me helpful (?) Something like this printed on the other side of the flyer maybe?

WARNING!!!!!

After January 1, 2014, YOU could be ARRESTED!!!!!



Do you own a center-fire rifle with a 10 round magazine-like an M-1 Carbine, a Modern Sporting Rifle, or other hunting rifle?

YOU COULD BE ARRESTED!- See SB374 on the back

Do you hunt with a firearm?

YOU COULD BE ARRESTED!- See AB711 on the back

Do you have a firearm that is not under lock and key in your home?

YOU COULD BE ARRESTED!- See AB231 on the back

Do you own a shotgun?

YOU COULD BE ARRESTED!- See SB567 on the back

Have you been convicted of a DUI offense and own a firearm?

YOU COULD HAVE YOUR FIREARM CONFISCATED!- See SB755 on the back

If you own a firearm, and it is STOLEN from you-

YOU COULD BE ARRESTED!- See SB299 on the back

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I'll be printing and handing out too!

Thank You Kesryll
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I understand the need to be "civil" in getting the word out, but maybe something that will grab the attention of the "casual" firearms owner might me helpful (?) Something like this printed on the other side of the flyer maybe?

WARNING!!!!!

After January 1, 2014, YOU could be ARRESTED!!!!!



Do you own a center-fire rifle with a 10 round magazine-like an M-1 Carbine, a Modern Sporting Rifle, or other hunting rifle?

YOU COULD BE ARRESTED!- See SB374 on the back

Do you hunt with a firearm?

YOU COULD BE ARRESTED!- See AB711 on the back

Do you have a firearm that is not under lock and key in your home?

YOU COULD BE ARRESTED!- See AB231 on the back

Do you own a shotgun?

YOU COULD BE ARRESTED!- See SB567 on the back

Have you been convicted of a DUI offense and own a firearm?

YOU COULD HAVE YOUR FIREARM CONFISCATED!- See SB755 on the back

If you own a firearm, and it is STOLEN from you-

YOU COULD BE ARRESTED!- See SB299 on the back

I like this....
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I understand the need to be "civil" in getting the word out, but maybe something that will grab the attention of the "casual" firearms owner might me helpful (?) Something like this printed on the other side of the flyer maybe?

WARNING!!!!!

After January 1, 2014, YOU could be ARRESTED!!!!!



Do you own a center-fire rifle with a 10 round magazine-like an M-1 Carbine, a Modern Sporting Rifle, or other hunting rifle?

YOU COULD BE ARRESTED!- See SB374 on the back

Do you hunt with a firearm?

YOU COULD BE ARRESTED!- See AB711 on the back

Do you have a firearm that is not under lock and key in your home?

YOU COULD BE ARRESTED!- See AB231 on the back

Do you own a shotgun?

YOU COULD BE ARRESTED!- See SB567 on the back

Have you been convicted of a DUI offense and own a firearm?

YOU COULD HAVE YOUR FIREARM CONFISCATED!- See SB755 on the back

If you own a firearm, and it is STOLEN from you-

YOU COULD BE ARRESTED!- See SB299 on the back
I like it, if you want to add it to the back that works, my original goal was to be simple to print at home so i made it one sided but heck two sided works too!
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Damn!!! already printed 100 one sided, now I have to print another 100 2 sided.

I'll wait a day to see a final version.

Great addition.
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I like it, if you want to add it to the back that works, my original goal was to be simple to print at home so i made it one sided but heck two sided works too!
good to go... I'm off to the local repro shop tomorrow to see what kind of deal I can get on 1000 copies front and back. Will try and solicit lgs's, ranges, and other pro 2A businesses to place a stack near the registers for everyone to see.

I added the word file here in case anyone else would like to add the warning "hook" to this PSA as well......
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Next to AB169.....did you forget to put "owned" after lawfully?
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Next to AB169.....did you forget to put "owned" after lawfully?
Good catch, fixed!
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Old 09-15-2013, 7:31 PM
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Downloaded will print and will distribute on windows of cars at stores
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Old 09-15-2013, 7:32 PM
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I appreciate your effort, but why is no one organizing a rally at e Capitol?

That woul seem to get more attention.
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Old 09-15-2013, 7:39 PM
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I appreciate your effort, but why is no one organizing a rally at e Capitol?

That woul seem to get more attention.
There is a sh!+storm of a debate going on about that very subject. Go here to catch up:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...0#post12322840
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Old 09-15-2013, 9:01 PM
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I appreciate your effort, but why is no one organizing a rally at e Capitol?

That woul seem to get more attention.
They just had rally at the capitol last Saturday. I guess you missed it.

-Cisco
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Thank you Kes, I love you man and want to buy you a beer.

I thought of doing just this and was given some ideas on one, but I can work with this as well.

Will get to working on it soon, go have a handful of copies made to post in a few places. I don't really have the means to get around enough to *really* spread it, but there's a number of community bulletin boards near the supermarket and stuff.

College town so I don't think a lot of folks will care, but I'm debating on if I should send this to some of the church folks. I only know of one that owns guns, but she might be interested or know people.
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Old 09-15-2013, 9:18 PM
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Wondering if I can distribute this around my college without issue.
No reason why you can't. Plaster it on all those bulletin boards.
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