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Old 10-16-2013, 6:41 PM
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I don't think that is an issue. Both of mine look just like that, but all of my uppers fit the EP lowers just fine.
The upper fits fine it seems if I had pins on them they would stick out and not sit flush.
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You are correct. Just cut out some of the lip or grind the pin head smaller. Up to you.
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That's correct. I just used an Exacto knife to shave the the upper portion of the lip. Minor surgery, and the pin fits flush.
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Kool I can live with that. I still don't know what I want to build.
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HUGE SALE STARTING AT 12!!!!

JUST SAW THE FB POST!!!!
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Website is up now. Lots of blems in all colors

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comes out to $48. Sorry but for a defective lower that may or may not work, I'd rather spend a bit more on an aluminum 80%


Has anyone been able to complete one of these defective lowers?
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you make it sound like it's a good thing to have lots of blem'ed products..
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comes out to $48. Sorry but for a defective lower that may or may not work, I'd rather spend a bit more on an aluminum 80%


Has anyone been able to complete one of these defective lowers?
Shipping stays at $10 so more the better.
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Has anyone been able to complete one of these defective lowers?
Nope. It keeps telling me that my tax has changed because I'm shipping to a different address than the billing address and to "review and resubmit". I've done that and it still won't go through. Their website is not letting me give them my money. If they don't want money thrown at them, oh well.
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Shipping stays at $10 so more the better.
I was charged $20, not $10. I even asked via email about that and received no reply.
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that is NOT what he was asking.

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Nope. It keeps telling me that my tax has changed because I'm shipping to a different address than the billing address and to "review and resubmit". I've done that and it still won't go through. Their website is not letting me give them my money. If they don't want money thrown at them, oh well.
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I was charged $20, not $10. I even asked via email about that and received no reply.
Strange... I remember some people complaining about that on a thread on FB and I thought I saw the guy reply he fixed it.
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you make it sound like it's a good thing to have lots of blem'ed products..
Just stating a fact, Sir. Lots of folks have been looking to get one.

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Old 10-18-2013, 12:57 PM
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one man's junk is another man's treasure.
Buy an aluminum for $80 and save yourself some trouble down the road.
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that is NOT what he was asking.
Oops. You're right. In light of the blemish sale going on right now, I thought that he meant "complete the order". I was just frustrated that my order didn't go through. Apparently, other people are having the same problems.

To answer the question correctly, go to their Facebook page and there are some links to people who have completed them. They're on Youtube too. If and when I am able to get one, I'm going to see if my CNC guy can do the same for these polymer lowers as the aluminum 80%s.
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You can CNC it if you break off the pin guides, but why spend the $60-$75 CNC fee on a plastic lower when an aluminum is only $40 more? The only attraction I see of of a plastic 80% is because it could be easily completed with a dremel.
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Old 10-18-2013, 2:36 PM
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Did we lose a page? Nm, guess not.
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I was charged $20, not $10. I even asked via email about that and received no reply.
I was charged $40 for one flat rate box of plastic pieces.
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Oops. You're right. In light of the blemish sale going on right now, I thought that he meant "complete the order". I was just frustrated that my order didn't go through. Apparently, other people are having the same problems.

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samn dang thing has been happening with me, grrr.
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That would of been me and another guy, they said it was fixed $10 ship fee and when I tried again it was back at $10 not $20. They still have not replied back to my question about what city has a 9.67% tax.

I have a pink one I did for my daughter complete. also a friend did a OD green one but it needed a lot of work.




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one man's junk is another man's treasure.
Buy an aluminum for $80 and save yourself some trouble down the road.
Please explain why an aluminum lower would be better? I need cold hard facts and not just your opinion. I do have a degree in engineering and would love to see real evidence of these lowers having issues. But, I'm betting you just don't know what you're talking about.
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gotta be honest I'm happy with my blem. got a zombie green one, it has the hole in the mag well like the others, the color is a little off, and its a little rough up by the selector switch words, but other then that i think it will be a fine 22lr lower.
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gotta be honest I'm happy with my blem. got a zombie green one, it has the hole in the mag well like the others, the color is a little off, and its a little rough up by the selector switch words, but other then that i think it will be a fine 22lr lower.
I picked up two pink blems a few weeks back and was so happy with them that I bought 7 black blems and 3 zombie green blems last week. They will make good lowers for .22lrs, .50BMG/.510DTC or just little .223/5.56. All the lower does is hold the FCG together and gives you a place to attach a buffer tube and stock.
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Please explain why an aluminum lower would be better? I need cold hard facts and not just your opinion. I do have a degree in engineering and would love to see real evidence of these lowers having issues. But, I'm betting you just don't know what you're talking about.
Excuse me Sir, I am a Mechanical engineer with over 25 years of experience in Aerospace industry so not just you only. I don't need to waste my time explaining to you which material is more rigid.
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Excuse me Sir, I am a Mechanical engineer with over 25 years of experience in Aerospace industry so not just you only. I don't need to waste my time explaining to you which material is more rigid.
I agree that aluminum is more rigid but, can you explain why you think that a lower needs to be more rigid? All it does is hold the FCG and buffer tube. Also, can you explain why you think that one would have less headaches from an aluminum 80% lower? Yea, every manufacturer has QC issues, specially when selling unfinished parts. However, there is no data to support the idea that aluminum 80% lowers don't cause more headaches than eplowers do. Both are made from different materials and, both have their advantages and disadvantages. Here's a current thread to look at:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...5#post12572455
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The real data are in the battlefield. Do you see the military use plastic (excuse me polymer) lower on the battelfield?
How about let put your finished plastic lower and my aluminum lower to a test by putting them in the freezer for couple days and run them over with a truck?
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The battlefield, you got me there. I guess there's a reason that no military firearms use plastic frames. Our military is still using some pretty old aluminum lowers and replaces them with the cheapest lowers they can contract for. Eplowers are made for a niche 80% market and not a military contract.

I have plenty of aluminum lowers myself so, I don't dislike them. There's nothing that makes these plastic 80% lowers any more of a headache to manufacture than finishing aluminum 80% lowers though. In fact, there are no 80% aluminum lowers that can be finished easily without a jig or a mill. That's where these lowers save the headache of trying to find a mill to use.
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Yeah, these aren't actually containing the "bang" or anything. That said, these seem overpriced and quality sounds extremely inconsistent. I think I want one or two ready to rock and 4 or 5 spares sitting around just in case, all the same, though.
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I just ordered a blem. We'll see what kind of blem I get and go from there. I have all the tools, drill press, and access to a CNC if I think I'll need it.
I'm not sure what my plan is yet but I'm thinking .22.
I figured for the price it was worth a chance and gives me something to mess around with at my shop.
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$35 but where can I find someone to machine it!?
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$35 but where can I find someone to machine it!?
Do it yourself. While it is possible to use them, these do not require a mill or a jig to finish.
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Excuse me Sir, I am a Mechanical engineer with over 25 years of experience in Aerospace industry so not just you only. I don't need to waste my time explaining to you which material is more rigid.
So you're saying that lowers should be made from titanium instead of aluminum? It's more rigid after all.
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So you're saying that lowers should be made from titanium instead of aluminum? It's more rigid after all.
Glass and ice are also more rigid. Yes, I thought it would be cool to make working lowers out of both.
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So you're saying that lowers should be made from titanium instead of aluminum? It's more rigid after all.
I never said that! But since you brought it up, I would use a Ti lower in my SHTF rifle any day. Ti has the same strength as steel and weight a lot less but it costs a lot more and harder to work with than aluminum. I'm sure there are companies out there that produce them but I doubt it if they are cheap.
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If you already have an AR or several, this is a great project. For the cost of 1 aluminum lower and some CNC time, you can build SEVERAL of these.

People that keep saying, "spend $x more and get an aluminum paperweight" are missing the point. This is designed to be completed at home, with basic tools, by yourself. Get a rotary tool from Harbor Freight, and order a couple Tile cutting bits from Amazon, and you're good to go. For $20 you can even buy a screw gun from HF, for drilling the hammer/trigger and selector holes. Total = less than CNC time, and you can make as many as you want.

My only problem now is deciding on what caliber.
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Just got my blem today. Only problem I can see is a rough finish in two areas. I put an upper on it and the take down pins lined up fine and was a snug fit.
I'll get to finishing it in the next week or two when I have some free time at my shop. I decided to make it a dedicated .22 since I already have a .223. Saves me $$ when I take friends shooting.
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