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Old 09-11-2013, 1:07 PM
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Arrow AR15/M4 Sling options

I have a new LMT CQB MRP rifle.

I am in the market for a sling, I dont like the sling that LMT provides.

The rifle comes with 2 QD swivel points already attached to the rail and buttstock.

I'm interested in having the option of single and double point sling.

I've seen the Vickers and Magpul, let me know of what others to compare to.
I like the Magpul MS3 option, but I am open to suggestions.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 09-11-2013, 1:14 PM
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Look at High Ground ring sling
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Old 09-11-2013, 1:32 PM
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High Ground ring sling is unique and definately worth taking a look at.
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Default AR15/M4 Sling options

Check out Specter Gear -- California company, CalGuns sponsor, good prices on good products.
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I run a BLUE FORCE 2-PT PADDED Sling and LOVE it. Tried everything under the sun, this one takes the cake.
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I like the Vickers also, but its a 2 point sling only.

I want the option of going from 2 point to 1 point.

Keep the options coming.
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Take a look at the padded VCAS by IWC. It comes with hardware to make it a 2 to 1 sling (also available non-padded).

http://www.impactweaponscomponents.c...-sling-by-iwc/
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Old 09-12-2013, 7:28 AM
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Thanks. Great option on the IWC site
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I have three of these in the for sale section now:



http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=813621
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While in the Marines, we were issued 3 point slings and "parade/2 point" slings for qual, in country I have used 1 and 2 points mainly. On my current AR I am running a BFG padded W point sling....

I know here are parts for 2 to 1 point sling adaptors, I seen it on brownells for sure...
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Old 09-12-2013, 9:26 AM
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+1 for what Arkangel said. I run the VCAS convertible padded sling and purchased it from Impact Weapons Components. Super nice sling.
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How about a BDS Tactical 2 point padded sling with bungee and quick adjust sling. I have one for Noveske M4, and on GAP Crusader, and one for my GAP-10. bdstacticalgear.com
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Take a look at the padded VCAS by IWC. It comes with hardware to make it a 2 to 1 sling (also available non-padded).

http://www.impactweaponscomponents.c...-sling-by-iwc/
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It's the most comfortable sling for all-day use. It's also A LOT smoother to adjust the sling length compared to any of my Magpul slings.

The only downside is that it gets a little cluttered in the area where you attach the IWC convertible QD hardware.
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80 dollars for a friggin sling.....damn you guys will buy anything lol
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80 dollars for a friggin sling.....damn you guys will buy anything lol
Some people look at it as an investment. I easily have over $80 in other slings that never get used anymore because they don't do the job as well as my VCAS.
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www.bdstacticalgear.com/cat-rifle-slings.cfm
They are priced right and you can get it in a variety of colors, for instance multi cam or coyote tan to name a couple. What I like most of all is the quick adjust strap to make it quickly battle ready.
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http://aresarmor.com/store/Item/aahuskey2pt

That's what I use. I have a UBR stock on my rifle that has two qd mounts so I can run it single that way. Pretty comfortable Nd easy to adjust in order for me to use it shooting off hand or prone and use the sling for some support
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I like the Vickers also, but its a 2 point sling only.

I want the option of going from 2 point to 1 point.

Keep the options coming.
I use a Tactical Link convertible 2-/1-point QR sling.
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I've had a few different slings, one point, two point. By far, at least for me this has been the best.

This http://www.blueforcegear.com/vickers...on-slings.html

with this http://www.impactweaponscomponents.c...t-convertible/

Goes from two point to one point. Any way, it's the most comfortable sling for me. Good Luck!
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BFG two point non-padded... Excellent quality, quick & simple use, no bulk no fuss no clutter... I run them on most of my rifles - I've tried others and end up getting more of these.
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I like he options so far.

Who uses the bungee style sling? And why?
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I like he options so far.

Who uses the bungee style sling? And why?
Absolutely can't stand bungee slings. Can't brace with them easily, can't push against them at all, bounce around.

Pass.


FWIW, We use Impact weapon components hardware for a few of our slings, they make great stuff.
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My favor sling are those $10 SKS /AK 2 point slings. They are soft, comfortable and cheap...
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I like he options so far.

Who uses the bungee style sling? And why?
In a single point configuration, where the sling is more for retention than for shooting support, the bungee will allow for a bit more freedom of movement and positioning of the rifle without having to stop and adjust a slider to change the length of the sling. Keep in mind that a single point setup is best used on a very light rifle or carbine. Heavier rifles will just bounce around and hit you in the knees and junk when suspended from the sling alone. Mine have a bit more resistance in the bungee than most I've seen, but it's still a good idea to keep the rifle as light as possible when running a single point.

In a two point configuration, the bungee section can actually work against you. Like ZFields said, it makes it hard to brace up with, especially slings that have longer bungee sections which can stretch quite a ways. I kept the bungee section on mine pretty short, giving about 4"-6" of stretch. The bungee is also only at the rear of the sling when used in a two point configuration, so when used as a hasty sling for shooting support the bungee doesn't factor into the equation as it is in the slack section of the sling at the rear which isn't being put under tension. *edit* should say "As much tension"

When run as a forward mounted single point for shooting support, the bungee does factor in, but the resistance is effectively doubled due to the way it connects to the forward D-Ring.
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In a single point configuration, where the sling is more for retention than for shooting support, the bungee will allow for a bit more freedom of movement and positioning of the rifle without having to stop and adjust a slider to change the length of the sling. Keep in mind that a single point setup is best used on a very light rifle or carbine. Heavier rifles will just bounce around and hit you in the knees and junk when suspended from the sling alone. Mine have a bit more resistance in the bungee than most I've seen, but it's still a good idea to keep the rifle as light as possible when running a single point.

In a two point configuration, the bungee section can actually work against you. Like ZFields said, it makes it hard to brace up with, especially slings that have longer bungee sections which can stretch quite a ways. I kept the bungee section on mine pretty short, giving about 4"-6" of stretch. The bungee is also only at the rear of the sling when used in a two point configuration, so when used as a hasty sling for shooting support the bungee doesn't factor into the equation as it is in the slack section of the sling at the rear which isn't being put under tension.

When run as a forward mounted single point for shooting support, the bungee does factor in, but the resistance is effectively doubled due to the way it connects to the forward D-Ring.

Just curious, but when you are shooting hasty sling, are you running tension across your back/shoulder? I am, so even with a bungee it's not the best route for me.

I know there is several methods I've seen for getting into a hasty sling position.
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Just curious, but when you are shooting hasty sling, are you running tension across your back/shoulder? I am, so even with a bungee it's not the best route for me.

I know there is several methods I've seen for getting into a hasty sling position.
No, just a single wrap around the forearm/elbow and then apply tension rearwards. The bungee section does see some of the tension I guess, but it doesn't seem to negatively effect the stability of the rifle.
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No, just a single wrap around the forearm/elbow and then apply tension rearwards. The bungee section does see some of the tension I guess, but it doesn't seem to negatively effect the stability of the rifle.
I'm sorry, my brain is't working right now ( long week ). By back/shoulders, I ment to say across the chest.


This is the method I have always used,
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I'm sorry, my brain is't working right now ( long week ). By back/shoulders, I ment to say across the chest.


This is the method I have always used,
Yeah, thats how I run it too. The bungee does take some of the tension, but as long as the wrap around the arm/elbow is pretty tight it still makes for a reasonably solid support. Another thing I sometimes do is to run the sling a few inches shorter than I typically would, and then really get into it with some force which stretches the bungee to the point where it locks up. At that point, it's essentially the same as running a sling made from solid strap.
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Yeah, thats how I run it too. The bungee does take some of the tension, but as long as the wrap around the arm/elbow is pretty tight it still makes for a reasonably solid support. Another thing I sometimes do is to run the sling a few inches shorter than I typically would, and then really get into it with some force which stretches the bungee to the point where it locks up. At that point, it's essentially the same as running a sling made from solid strap.
That is what I sorta figured. I know I gotta cram the rifle down to get into position with how tight I normally keep it to start with.
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