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Old 09-08-2013, 5:56 PM
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Default If you were looking for a shooter M1 Carbine...

... in this climate of executive order buffoonery, where would you start the hunt? How much would you pay for a non-collector solid shooter? Where would you look for ammo?
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Well, there was one for $775 at the Vallejo show this weekend. Probably would have pulled the trigger on it if I didn't just pay the mortgage... And get a dog...and...
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$775 is a solid deal in this market.
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I would look in the usual spots, Gun Shops, Calguns even gun shows but I wouldn't hold my breath for finding one at a gun show for a decent price. Expect to pay $800 ish.

Surplus ammo has all but dried up in quantity, every now and then some turns up from private collections. So for ammo, you are probably stuck buying new.
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ask all the old men you bump into, lots of private party rifles just sitting in a closet. a guy gave me free a 1946 WRF 22 rifle fired 1 time.
i just got a 1903A3 from a guy because i mentioned i like old rifles. i am in the proses of getting a very nice M1 carbine [ 1943 IBM] for 1200 with a ton of ammo and many clips etc. i figure i am paying about 800 for the rifle. all these rifles were bought just from mentioning i like guns to people i bump into.
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... How much would you pay for a non-collector solid shooter?
Oh.... I dunno. $300 maybe?
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I seller on GB was getting rid of his collection, nothing fancy but ranged from 650 to 1100 pricewise. I got a mix master for under 700. its nothing fancy but wanted to get one as prices seem to just go up.
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I picked one up recently with a ton of extras, ammo, dies, brass, bullets, etc etc. It actually looks nice enough that I think I screwed up a little and bought one that is too nice to be a weekend shooter, but I paid about what most shooters go for these days, without the extras.

I took it with me to the Vallejo show this weekend and showed it to Karl Krause, the guy who always has 5 or 6 nice Carbines on his table. He looked it over and told me I have a $1,600 rifle, so now I am thinking I need a shooter!!! Damn, have to buy another rifle :/
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Stop the gloating, Bigbossman. :-) you stole that thing! LOL
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Well, there was one for $775 at the Vallejo show this weekend. Probably would have pulled the trigger on it if I didn't just pay the mortgage... And get a dog...and...
Was that the one that was strapped to a sign post or a table leg or something? I'm thinking of the one on that table with the really crap reloads in the stenciled cardboard boxes. I looked but wasn't needing, so didn't look closer.

This reminds me... there was one at the Reno show last month, the vendor was a husband/wife team in their sixties probably. The Carbine was in very good condition, but some clown had taken a grinder to the receiver ring right above the chamber where is says "US RIFLE 30 CALIBER" or something like that. Bubba had ground all the writing off there, but left the manufacturer name at the rear, can't remember which one it was. Anyhow, I wish I would have bought it as a shooter... it was in real nice shape. If anyone sees it let me know Maybe it will be at the Cow Palace soon?
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Think it was in one of the circular racks east of the gentleman with the pricey pretty ones, same row. Iirc it was in a "new" looking stock, believe it was an Inland.
There was also an Alpine and another random commercial floating around.
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Why is it that it's always somebody else getting those killer deals? $700 or$800 gets you a maybe. $1,400 gets you something you will be proud to own.

Just come back here and tell us you got it for $300 or $400. We will believe you.
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The difference between a M1 Carbine Junker in Safe vs a Good M1 Carbine in the Safe is one Yankee five cent Nickle a day for 30 years.
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if your patient and on the hunt you might be able to score one for $500 ive seen them in the marketplace from time to time for that price.
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I picked one up recently with a ton of extras, ammo, dies, brass, bullets, etc etc. It actually looks nice enough that I think I screwed up a little and bought one that is too nice to be a weekend shooter, but I paid about what most shooters go for these days, without the extras.

I took it with me to the Vallejo show this weekend and showed it to Karl Krause, the guy who always has 5 or 6 nice Carbines on his table. He looked it over and told me I have a $1,600 rifle, so now I am thinking I need a shooter!!! Damn, have to buy another rifle :/
Karl Krause is a very knowledgeable crook, by the way. He sells rifles with correct stocks and fake cartouches.
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Everyone thinks that their rifle is worth $1000+ because it's over 70 years old, but most of them are just ignorant to what their rifle is. I've seen very few actual "correct" M1 carbines. Inflation is rampant, and you can expect to pay around $600 tops for a good "mixmaster" shooter. Make people reasonable offers, you'll have one in no time.
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The funny thing is m1 carbines are correct as mixmasters
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The funny thing is m1 carbines are correct as mixmasters
Yeah, an "all matching" one is almost certainly a forced match. Same with Garands. When you find a "correct" one..... Caveat Emptor.
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The funny thing is m1 carbines are correct as mixmasters
I have a correct NPM and it has only two parts that are from another manufacturer (Underwood). Depending on the maker, most parts will be from the same manufacturer.

Now if you are talking about post WWII rebuild like what would have been issued for Korea, a complete mixmaster is correct for that time period.
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I don't give a damn about correctness on my shooters.
I did get a nice 1943 Winchester in trade for a Glock 17. I felt I got the better end of that deal, but the seller never shot it, and it just needed to have the slide lug rebuilt. That's a $40 investment
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Look out for Blue Sky imports.Some of the stamps on the barrel are so deep it F up the rifling.
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rust,beater stocks, bluing gone, poor operation. these are the things that bother me. who made it or mixmaster no problem.
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Look out for Blue Sky imports.Some of the stamps on the barrel are so deep it F up the rifling.
I had heard that the problem was that they may have bent the barrel. Never heard anything about the rifling.
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... in this climate of executive order buffoonery, where would you start the hunt? How much would you pay for a non-collector solid shooter? Where would you look for ammo?

There is only one place to look for .30 carbine ammo.
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Its $210 now for a case plus 11.95 shipping puts it at 44 cents a round still a lot cheaper only it's on backorder.
Reloading is the way to go.
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I got some at SGAmmo for about $.55/round. Needed a small amount for the short term.
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Cabelas has some 30 carbine on sale now. Not the best price, but you can get it now and save the cases to reload. I've been told the cases almost never wear out since they have a straight wall.
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Karl Krause is a very knowledgeable crook, by the way. He sells rifles with correct stocks and fake cartouches.
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I've been told the cases almost never wear out since they have a straight wall.
They are a tapered case , not straight walled. They stretch out after each firing , making it too long to headspace properly and needing to be trimmed.

Mine go 3 loadings before trimming needed.

They can only be trimmed a few times and will soon show case head separation .
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They are a tapered case , not straight walled. They stretch out after each firing , making it too long to headspace properly and needing to be trimmed.

Mine go 3 loadings before trimming needed.

They can only be trimmed a few times and will soon show case head separation .
Good to know. I was told they were like pistol brass, and that I would lose them before they wear out.
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Well, with the azzfuggery going on up in Sacramento, if anyone wants an M1 carbine, I would advise getting one quickly, as it's likely that in 3 months you will never be able to get another.
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Big 5 hasn't had any in stock lately but when they do, the ones they get aren't too bad. I got a decent Winchester at the Big 5 in Santa Monica.

Lately, I haven't seen anything in the way of "good deals" at gun shows.
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Yes, better buy that "assault weapon" now and be prepared to not have any magazines to go with it.

Sorry for the thread jack.
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has it sunk in that any AW you buy is going to be almost worthless. unless you go out of state you will not be able to sell or give it to a friend. if you do not register it you will never be able to take it out and shoot without fear of it being taken away and you going to jail . if you try to shoot it out in the open or a public rifle range you will be looking over your shoulder all the time. as easy as these laws passed in CA a total ban of AW is in our CA future. sadly M1 carbines, mini 14s etc will be a no no in CA.
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Yes, better buy that "assault weapon" now and be prepared to not have any magazines to go with it.

Sorry for the thread jack.
Yep.

Irks me that my 60 year old M-1 Carbine which I have owned for about two decades will now be considered an "assault weapon" and all the magazines I own for it could be confiscated as nuisance items.
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has it sunk in that any AW you buy is going to be almost worthless. unless you go out of state you will not be able to sell or give it to a friend. if you do not register it you will never be able to take it out and shoot without fear of it being taken away and you going to jail . if you try to shoot it out in the open or a public rifle range you will be looking over your shoulder all the time. as easy as these laws passed in CA a total ban of AW is in our CA future. sadly M1 carbines, mini 14s etc will be a no no in CA.
Why are they a no go? Obviously they will have to be registered as assault weapons and purchased before January, but they will still be usable to us who already own them (with 10 round mags only).
I'm 150% AGAINST these laws, just trying to clarify.
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Yep.

Irks me that my 60 year old M-1 Carbine which I have owned for about two decades will now be considered an "assault weapon" and all the magazines I own for it could be confiscated as nuisance items.
Actually, a Paratrooper Carbine has been illegal since the "evil feature" ban. I guarantee you there's a guy out there who was a Korean war, or WWII veteran (or his family) that doesn't know that.
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Why are they a no go? Obviously they will have to be registered as assault weapons and purchased before January, but they will still be usable to us who already own them (with 10 round mags only).
I'm 150% AGAINST these laws, just trying to clarify.

yes for now you can shoot it if you register it, you will not be able to sell it or give it to your kids though. how do you feel about destroying that beautiful piece of history. and with their solid hold of the state government in the near future they WILL flat out BAN them.
People we are 1 judge away on the Supreme court from loosing all our gun rights in every state. bank on it. if you do not think so i feel sorry for you.
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