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Old 01-05-2008, 11:40 AM
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Default yote hunting and lead free .223

so with the lead free ban and all, where is a good place to look for lead free .223 ammo?

so far ive found Lapua Naturalis lead free 7.62x54R at www.grafs.com which came today morning via fedex, which was a nice surprise. so i can still use my mosin nagant 91/30 for pig hunting as i intended to do.

but im still having problems locating lead free .223 ammo for yotes

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well, the only factory new lead free ammo i found is black hills varmint granade round, but it is 36 grain, it uses barnes lead free projectile, and is out of stock everywhere!

here is a vid of it.
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To hell with the lead free hunting ban... Just find a bunch of old boxes labeled lead free ammo and throw em in your gear bag on the way out.
I don't think Mr. Game warden is a metallurgist.
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To hell with the lead free hunting ban... Just find a bunch of old boxes labeled lead free ammo and throw em in your gear bag on the way out.
I don't think Mr. Game warden is a metallurgist.
thanx, but dont want to risk it. BTW i love your sig line. i laugh every time i see it.
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The 36gr Varmint grenade IS NOT a coyote bullet, its a bullet for squirrels and p-dogs. If you use it, you will most likely end up with a bunch of wounded runners, not dead coyotes.

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you could always cast your own in silver....with the way prices are going to end up for lead free stuff soon, it might be cheaper anyway
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You may have run across this already... My GoogleFU is a bit slow today.

linky to post with link of a manf.
BP Custom Manufacturing, Inc. claims to have lead free .223 ammo

Midway selling this?American Ammo... quality unknown
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so with the lead free ban and all, where is a good place to look for lead free .223 ammo?
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thanx for the replies guys, but ive found a solution already, found a company that reloads lead free 70gr hevi-shot in my used brass. check out this thread, i had the owner of the shop post on calguns

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ad.php?t=81206

basically, you send him 100 used .223 brass and a check for $75 and he reloads those shells wit 70gr hevi shot lead free projectiles, and send them back to you.
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You may have run across this already... My GoogleFU is a bit slow today.

linky to post with link of a manf.
BP Custom Manufacturing, Inc. claims to have lead free .223 ammo

Midway selling this?American Ammo... quality unknown

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thanx, and yes i found them earlier today, spoke to the owner of BP, and asked him to register on calguns, and offer his lead free .223 ammo to our members, he did that, check out the link i posted above.
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not sure, but it would cover the lead free/zombie/wherewolf/vampire crowd all in one little box...haha
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Take a look in the .223/5.56 area on ammoman.com

Look for:

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223 FRANGIBLE U.S.G.I. - 50 GRAIN BULLET
REDUCED RICOCHET - LOW PENETRATION
UNITED STATES GOVT. ISSUE IN SEALED G.I. AMMO CANS
GREAT FOR INDOOR RANGES - BRAND NEW (SEE PICS)
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It is non - toxic and lead - free, eliminating hazardous exposure for the user and reducing environmental clean - up costs for training ranges.
@ $460/k It doesn't sound to bad if lead free is all you can use. I'm not sure how accurate it's going to be though. Someone want to test it out and let us know?
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To hell with the lead free hunting ban... Just find a bunch of old boxes labeled lead free ammo and throw em in your gear bag on the way out.
I don't think Mr. Game warden is a metallurgist.
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Take a look in the .223/5.56 area on ammoman.com

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@ $460/k It doesn't sound to bad if lead free is all you can use. I'm not sure how accurate it's going to be though. Someone want to test it out and let us know?

its only 50gr and my bbl has a 1:7 twist, so i dont think it would be very accurate out of my bbl, maybe a 1:9 or slower twist, and it would be ok. but thanx anyway.
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PMC Gold Line
.22-250 Remington 50 Barnes XLC Bullet
.223 Remington 53 Barnes XLC Bullet

Cor-Bon DPX Ammunition
.223 Remington 53 Grain Barnes Triple-Shock
.223 Remington 62 Grain Barnes Triple-Shock Box

Nosler is expanding their E Tip line and expect Winchester to load it.

Idiots at Fish and Game included solids in their approved list of non-lead ammo. Those morons don't read their own rules.

To MTV above: Stabilization is based on a formula for bullet length, not mass. Longer bullets like Barnes require faster twists. It's very difficult to overstabilize a bullet in a fast twist rifle unless it flies apart or precesses. However, your 7" twist rifle does slow the bullet down a couple hundred FPS.

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your 7" twist rifle does slow the bullet down a couple hundred FPS.
Try a couple dozen FPS.
It is nowhere near 200fps difference due to twist rate.
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I do not think pmc selling this brand anymore. I went to their site and they look like they do not produce the 223 in xlc or vlc. I also called the barnes company and they have not produced the coated .224 bullet in a few years, only in triple shock. To bad that coated xlc bullet was the best my gun shot.

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