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Old 04-15-2017, 6:55 AM
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Default Recommend a primer pocket swager for 223

Question for the experts about primer pockets -- need a recommendation on what is the best tool for removing the crimp from the primer pocket on 223 brass? I am not a high volume reloader, just using an RCBS Rockchucker press and a LE Wilson case trimmer. I am manually deburring and chamfering my trimmed cases with the RCBS hand tool.
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Old 04-15-2017, 6:59 AM
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Dillon swager

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Old 04-15-2017, 7:01 AM
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I used a step-bit 1st, then got a Lyman Reamer, then bought a Dillion swager.

The Dillon will do 9mm brass too, even set up for .223...

More recently, since I have a mostly-unused single-stage, I went with a RCBS 9481 Primer Pocket Swage Tool, but haven't used it yet.
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Old 04-15-2017, 7:14 AM
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RCBS swage tool works great.
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Old 04-15-2017, 7:21 AM
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RCBS for me. I don't like the idea of removing material in the pocket, so I stopped using the twist to cut tools.
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Old 04-15-2017, 7:40 AM
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Thanks guys.

@racinjason223 and @nedro, for clarity, are you recommending this?:
http://rcbs.com/Products/Case-Prepar...r-Combo-2.aspx

Or this?:
http://rcbs.com/Products/Case-Prepar...ench-Tool.aspx

Seems like the should both accomplish the job, but the second one would avoid having to swap out the die in the press and adjust it. But its quite a bit more expensive.

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Old 04-15-2017, 8:02 AM
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Dillon user here. Bolt/screw it to a board, clamp to bench.
Not sure how you tie down the rcbs.

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Old 04-15-2017, 8:23 AM
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If your a low volume reloader just use your chamfer tool. The RCBS tool in your first link i tossed in the garbage after several attempts.
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I have cut them, reamed them and swaged them. I do not cut/ream them anymore.
I have a RCBS swager and do not use it.
I have a Dillon and it gets lots of use. Last summer I did 8600 223 cases over a couple of days alone. The Dillon is the best unit period. I do assorted headstamps at the same time. I set mine to swage deep and go by feel. It works great. No need to sort brass and adjust it for each headstamp.

Like LynnJr said if low numbers and want to save money the chamfer tool or a manual cutter made for the job will work. I agree with him on the RCBS tool. I did not like it and it was more work than the Dillon. Buy once cry once or in this case celebrate happiness for a long time.
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Question for the experts about primer pockets -- need a recommendation on what is the best tool for removing the crimp from the primer pocket on 223 brass? I am not a high volume reloader, just using an RCBS Rockchucker press and a LE Wilson case trimmer. I am manually deburring and chamfering my trimmed cases with the RCBS hand tool.
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If you have the RC press then the RCBS swager will work with your press. RCBS swager did not work with my Redding BBII press.

Have also tried and used case deburring tool, RCBS reamer/cutter (I like that since it gives the primer pocket a bevel), CH4D swager, and Dillon swager.

Currently, I'm using the Dillon swager for 223 volume processing.
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Thanks all, and Happy Easter.
I am ordering the Dillon. Buy once...
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Old 04-16-2017, 8:32 AM
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Thanks guys.

@racinjason223 and @nedro, for clarity, are you recommending this?:
http://rcbs.com/Products/Case-Prepar...r-Combo-2.aspx

Or this?:
http://rcbs.com/Products/Case-Prepar...ench-Tool.aspx

Seems like the should both accomplish the job, but the second one would avoid having to swap out the die in the press and adjust it. But its quite a bit more expensive.
I use the first one. Don't worry about having to switch out the die. It's a one off operation that is done only once to a piece of brass. And only for factory ammo on the first reload, just to open up where the factory swaged the primer into place.
Unless you make enough reloads to sell, I do not see the need for the second one you showed.
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Thanks all, and Happy Easter.
I am ordering the Dillon. Buy once...
Good choice.

I shoot mostly LC brass. It's a good idea to deburr the flash hole before swaging the crimped primer pockets. I think they punch their flash holes and there are often some pretty big burrs/chunks still hanging on the inside around the flash hole that I don't like to mash down on the inside of the case when I swage crimps.

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A #2 Phillips bit in a cheapy drill press does wonders
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I use the RCBS and Dillon. When I do 1k+ .223, I get help and use both systems at the same time. To me the RCBS seems to leave a smoother finished product.
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