Calguns.net  

Home My iTrader Join the NRA Donate to CGSSA Sponsors CGN Google Search
CA Semiauto Ban(AW)ID Flowchart CA Handgun Ban ID Flowchart CA Shotgun Ban ID Flowchart
Go Back   Calguns.net > POLITICS, LITIGATION AND ACTIVISM > California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-14-2013, 9:13 AM
ap3572001 ap3572001 is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: San Francisco/East Bay
Posts: 5,039
iTrader: 46 / 96%
Default If all laws pass.....

If all bills that are likely to pass will pass and become a law in Ca. What handguns are not effected at all? in the worst case scenario

Last edited by ap3572001; 08-14-2013 at 9:15 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-14-2013, 9:18 AM
Mulay El Raisuli's Avatar
Mulay El Raisuli Mulay El Raisuli is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Oceanside, CA
Posts: 3,525
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ap3572001 View Post
If all bills that are likely to pass will pass and become a law in Ca. What handguns are not effected at all? in the worst case scenario

Revolvers?


The Raisuli
__________________
"Ignorance is a steep hill with perilous rocks at the bottom"

WTB: 9mm cylinder for Taurus Mod. 85
WTS: Model 94 AE 30-30
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-14-2013, 9:31 AM
calAWBsux calAWBsux is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 298
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

I have been trying to be optimistic about the Cali situation and have donated about $1,000 to various pro-gun Cali groups, written my reps and called my reps. I have passed out flyers and have educated various pro-gun peeps. In light of all of this, I still see that people do not get it and think that these laws will MAGICALLY not pass. No one is motivated to do much and it makes me upset that no one sees the urgency.

We, as gun owners in Cali, are screwed. MOST OF THE LAWS will PASS and will need to be addressed in the courts.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-14-2013, 9:49 AM
firelt firelt is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 15
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

I agree. I give money, I write, call, e-mail and fax and we still get hammered. I even take people to the range just to introduce them to firearms. We've been beat down for so long I think people just don't think there is any chance of winning, so why try?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-14-2013, 10:00 AM
E. Max Hengst E. Max Hengst is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: LA County
Posts: 108
iTrader: 16 / 100%
Default

Why do you think I am moving?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-14-2013, 10:05 AM
fighter4cage's Avatar
fighter4cage fighter4cage is offline
Veteran/Senior Member
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Ask
Posts: 835
iTrader: 26 / 100%
Default

Hasbro

Last edited by fighter4cage; 08-14-2013 at 12:02 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-14-2013, 10:10 AM
nastyhabts26 nastyhabts26 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 2,112
iTrader: 5 / 100%
Default

Hasbro
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-14-2013, 10:14 AM
deckhandmike's Avatar
deckhandmike deckhandmike is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: The Coast
Posts: 3,298
iTrader: 5 / 100%
Default

I won't reply on the board about specifics but one of those laws bans almost all pistols in a round about way that are not revolvers. It should be an interesting legal challenge.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-14-2013, 10:50 AM
shooting4life's Avatar
shooting4life shooting4life is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Lorenzo
Posts: 5,665
iTrader: 42 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by deckhandmike View Post
I won't reply on the board about specifics but one of those laws bans almost all pistols in a round about way that are not revolvers. It should be an interesting legal challenge.
Yep, though I do not think the SSE ban will have any affect on single action revolver exemption process.
__________________
WTB - VEPR 12

WTS - S&W 27-2 3.5 Barrel with Box and Presentation Case

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1021514
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-14-2013, 11:00 AM
Sakiri's Avatar
Sakiri Sakiri is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Arcata
Posts: 1,397
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by deckhandmike View Post
I won't reply on the board about specifics but one of those laws bans almost all pistols in a round about way that are not revolvers. It should be an interesting legal challenge.
I'm not sure how you're figuring that out.

I know one of them bans just about every semi auto rifle on the market outside like, the Garand.

If you want to PM me the details, go for it, but I haven't seen anything that affects handguns.

I might just be blind though.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-14-2013, 12:26 PM
Nitrate Nitrate is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 35
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Will wait to see what happens.

Last edited by Nitrate; 08-14-2013 at 1:43 PM.. Reason: Tactical mistake.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-14-2013, 1:27 PM
glock_this's Avatar
glock_this glock_this is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Under your skin
Posts: 8,227
iTrader: 48 / 98%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrate View Post
So if SB374+Bullet Button Ban passes, are we all going to be reloading by pulling the rear pin in our AR's? If a permanently fixed magazine becomes law, will this be the worst case scenario for AR owners?
This is how we did it in 2005ish. Top load with stripper clips and a 10 round mag pinned in the magwell. Ugh... not going back to that method.
__________________
10 +1 in the chamber

WTS: Gun stuff & things
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-14-2013, 1:30 PM
Hoshnasi's Avatar
Hoshnasi Hoshnasi is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,731
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Default

I've divested all my auto loaders into revolvers and lever actions...
__________________
Come to Flavor Country...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kappy View Post
You don't like homosexuality, don't let some dude stick his tab A into your slot B.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gecko45
But then again I think of the mayors nephew, his face distored with tears and terror, the GAP employees who asked for my autograph, and had to settle for a cover identity’s signature, the flashbangs, and their acrid scent, the small of napalm in the evening breeze, as I crouch behind a shopping cart in the parking lot,
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-14-2013, 1:37 PM
grnt's Avatar
grnt grnt is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: OC
Posts: 552
iTrader: 100 / 100%
Default

if all laws passed. you can buy the plastic gun in the toy section of walmart. no need for ammo. 9 volt will do. no background checks. no handgun safety test. just don't point it at cops or you will attract bullets. the duracoat finish will be orange. yeah! California.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-14-2013, 1:39 PM
Moemoe1's Avatar
Moemoe1 Moemoe1 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,490
iTrader: 11 / 92%
Default

Peace and freedom can never be given, only collision is the recipe. In 10 years from now, we won't be able to own firearms.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 08-14-2013, 1:43 PM
grnt's Avatar
grnt grnt is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: OC
Posts: 552
iTrader: 100 / 100%
Default

moemoe agreed. this is in process. wait till they propose all police cannot carry guns. they could hurt the public if they shoot and OMG the noise from a round fired.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 08-14-2013, 2:17 PM
stix213's Avatar
stix213 stix213 is offline
AKA: Joe Censored
CGN Contributor - Lifetime
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: San Rafael
Posts: 16,754
iTrader: 8 / 100%
Default

Making a gun shape with your fingers is still legal, unless your kids do that in school.
__________________
Play Omega Reaction on Steam Oct 7th!


http://store.steampowered.com/app/516520
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 08-14-2013, 2:24 PM
NHP1127's Avatar
NHP1127 NHP1127 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 987
iTrader: 47 / 100%
Default

Bad news: these laws won't matter. No criminals are going to turn in their weapons.

Good news: if your 15 year old son in high school says he is considering "transgender" then he can now legally go in the girls locker room... score! Thank you Kalifornia!
__________________
"I sell genuine US military MREs"
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 08-14-2013, 2:33 PM
Nitrate Nitrate is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 35
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Well all I know is I just ordered another stripped lower this morning. I guess you could call it therapy.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 08-14-2013, 2:43 PM
GoingPro's Avatar
GoingPro GoingPro is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Los Angeles County
Posts: 1,411
iTrader: 30 / 100%
Default

Ill be buying my guns from bubba in south central los angeles if this passes. I guess ill have to be a criminal or move out of state
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 08-14-2013, 2:44 PM
arsilva32's Avatar
arsilva32 arsilva32 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Huntington Beach/Buena Park
Posts: 863
iTrader: 10 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by calAWBsux View Post
I have been trying to be optimistic about the Cali situation and have donated about $1,000 to various pro-gun Cali groups, written my reps and called my reps. I have passed out flyers and have educated various pro-gun peeps. In light of all of this, I still see that people do not get it and think that these laws will MAGICALLY not pass. No one is motivated to do much and it makes me upset that no one sees the urgency.

We, as gun owners in Cali, are screwed. MOST OF THE LAWS will PASS and will need to be addressed in the courts.

^^^this, its so damn discouraging! no one cares ,they willingly hand over there rights like they mean nothing.its too much work to find the truth about whats going on so they just let there television form there opinion on everything.sometimes it feels like its me against the world.
__________________

More armed citizens = Quicker response times, less victims.
Less armed citizens = more victims


Guns should only be surrendered one bullet at a time.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 08-14-2013, 2:48 PM
SilverTauron SilverTauron is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 5,705
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Coming Soon:SB101, The California Assault Revolver Act.
__________________
The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
-Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 08-14-2013, 2:59 PM
Milsurp Collector's Avatar
Milsurp Collector Milsurp Collector is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Free America
Posts: 4,516
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ap3572001 View Post
If all bills that are likely to pass will pass and become a law in Ca. What handguns are not affected at all? in the worst case scenario
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 08-14-2013, 2:59 PM
shooting4life's Avatar
shooting4life shooting4life is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Lorenzo
Posts: 5,665
iTrader: 42 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverTauron View Post
Coming Soon:SB101, The California Assault Revolver Act.
Don't even joke.
__________________
WTB - VEPR 12

WTS - S&W 27-2 3.5 Barrel with Box and Presentation Case

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1021514
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 08-14-2013, 3:01 PM
Rock6.3's Avatar
Rock6.3 Rock6.3 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Shasta County California
Posts: 2,444
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shooting4life View Post
Don't even joke.
It is not a joke.

This is incrementalism. One law at a time, one category at a time, with the ultimate goal of elimination of firearms from civilian hands. It has worked in other countries, and is in process here.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 08-14-2013, 3:26 PM
ad40 ad40 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 700
iTrader: 7 / 100%
Default

Tough times might be on the horizon, but do not give up or give in!!!!

Last edited by ad40; 08-14-2013 at 3:28 PM.. Reason: Sentence structure
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 08-14-2013, 3:33 PM
2nd Mass 2nd Mass is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,250
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ap3572001 View Post
If all bills that are likely to pass will pass and become a law in Ca. What handguns are not effected at all? in the worst case scenario
Good question OP. The legislation is broad and it's a good idea to familiarize yourself with what is being proposed here http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=776966

As per your specific question regarding handguns I believe you're referring to SB 293. Here's the meat of it.

Quote:
This bill would define an owner-authorized handgun as a handgun that has a permanent feature that renders the handgun incapable of being fired except when activated by the lawful owner or owners of the handgun. The bill would specify requirements that an owner-authorized handgun would be required to meet, and would require a manufacturer that has developed an owner-authorized handgun meeting those requirements to submit the handgun for testing, at the manufacturer’s expense, before the handgun may be placed on the roster of handguns determined not to be unsafe. If two owner-authorized handguns have been placed on the roster, the bill would, commencing two years from the date that the second handgun was placed on the roster, prohibit the Department of Justice from placing a handgun on the roster that is not an owner-authorized handgun.
They're referring to "smart gun" technology. Only handguns that with technology to detect if only the owner is using the handgun will be added to the roster. This technology doesn't exist. It could be having biometrics, retinal scan, fingerprint scan or whatever science fiction ideas they have be permanently imbedded in a handgun.

Yes it's that ridiculous.

It also states this
Quote:
(6) If the user is not recognized, or if the power supply fails, the firearm shall be inoperable.
So if you forget to charge your sci-fi handgun it will not work.

There is a line that states if passed the law would not take effect until to separate manufacturers add handguns with the science fiction features to the roster. This is dangerous because that's how we got "microstamping". They said they wouldn't enforce until the technology was available. It's not available and Kamala Harris just this year enforced the "microstamping" requirement anyway.

Again, yes, this is ludicrous. Mandating use of non-exist technology.

It's understandable to be outraged, be frustrated but do something about it. Calguns, CGSSA and other civil rights organizations have formed the Liberty Foundation and are asking for volunteers. Write reps, inform others on whats happening, donate, we need to fight this with everything we have. Save the complaints for after if it passes. For those fleeing the state, start a foundation where you go because if we don't stop them here, they'll be coming to your new state next.
__________________
“Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts. These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.” Mitt Romney 2012 Republican Presidential Candidate

Last edited by 2nd Mass; 08-14-2013 at 3:45 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 08-14-2013, 3:39 PM
Mel101 Mel101 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 10
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Again, to all those who say they're going to move or have moved and do nothing but have negative things to say about California...SHUT UP!! I'm here to stay. I will continue to donate to pro-gun organizations and I will continue to fight to the best of my ability. It makes sense to stand your ground here because with the exception of these stupid bills and anti-gun laws, CALIFORNIA will always be better than any other state. ALWAYS!!!
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 08-14-2013, 4:13 PM
chris's Avatar
chris chris is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: In Texas for now
Posts: 17,446
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ap3572001 View Post
If all bills that are likely to pass will pass and become a law in Ca. What handguns are not effected at all? in the worst case scenario
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milsurp Collector View Post
there is some sheriff somewhere that says that is all we are allowed to own.
__________________
http://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php

Quote:
Public Safety Chairman Reggie Jones Sawyer, D-Los Angeles said, “This is California; we don’t pay too much attention to the Constitution,”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Dj8tdSC1A
contact the governor
https://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php
In Memory of Spc Torres May 5th 2006 al-Hillah, Iraq. I will miss you my friend.
When Hell is full the dead will walk the Earth. (Dawn of the Dead)
NRA Life Member.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 08-14-2013, 5:54 PM
SemperFi1775's Avatar
SemperFi1775 SemperFi1775 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 686
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ap3572001 View Post
If all bills that are likely to pass will pass and become a law in Ca. What handguns are not effected at all? in the worst case scenario
no new handgun can be added to the roster without micro stamping is a done deal...

if ab169 passed, limit 2 off roster purchases a year (except SSE) and no LEO transfer to non-LEO (except family)....
__________________
"What the hell happened to land of the free and home of the brave???"

"I want the truth! You can't handle the truth!!!" A Few Good Men
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 08-14-2013, 6:10 PM
1CavScout's Avatar
1CavScout 1CavScout is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: SoCal / AZ
Posts: 3,507
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock6.3 View Post
It is not a joke.

This is incrementalism. One law at a time, one category at a time, with the ultimate goal of elimination of firearms from civilian hands. It has worked in other countries, and is in process here.
This is exactly the plan of the leftest. Anyone that thinks it's about anything else is delusional.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 08-14-2013, 6:37 PM
VendetAR's Avatar
VendetAR VendetAR is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,120
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

If all the laws pass... A whole lot of us will be felons if caught.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 08-14-2013, 6:39 PM
javalos's Avatar
javalos javalos is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Valley Springs, CA
Posts: 879
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by calAWBsux View Post
I have been trying to be optimistic about the Cali situation and have donated about $1,000 to various pro-gun Cali groups, written my reps and called my reps. I have passed out flyers and have educated various pro-gun peeps. In light of all of this, I still see that people do not get it and think that these laws will MAGICALLY not pass. No one is motivated to do much and it makes me upset that no one sees the urgency.

We, as gun owners in Cali, are screwed. MOST OF THE LAWS will PASS and will need to be addressed in the courts.
Thank you for your service to the Constitution and our gun rights. There are lots of gun owners out there that don't even have a clue as to what is going on in Sacramento and if they do know, they don't care. The problem is the legislative terrorists that Californians elected to office like Steinberg, DeLeon, Yee, Hancock, Leno, Skinner, Ammiano, and Bonta don't care either because they have no fear that they will be voted out. Legislative terrorists like Steinberg, Yee, and Hancock are not only making a mockery of our Constitution, but they are mocking and calling law abiding gun owners criminals for owning magazines over 10 rounds or owning a semi-auto rifle. Our only chance is the Governor which I won't hold my breath to see if he veto's them and our courts which scare me just as much.

I'm retiring in 6 years, I won't live in a state where every day I'm going to wonder if they will confiscate firearms that I've legally owned and registered.
__________________
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
__________________________
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ!
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 08-14-2013, 7:28 PM
sirgiles's Avatar
sirgiles sirgiles is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,356
iTrader: 129 / 99%
Default

i'm more than happy to divest you of all your "assault rifles" at 1/2 the price.
__________________
"I'm not in this world to live up to your expectations and you're not in this world to live up to mine."

Bruce Lee
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 08-14-2013, 8:06 PM
BMartin1776's Avatar
BMartin1776 BMartin1776 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 753
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Ok Im dumb so Id like someone explain how these laws can be passed when they clearly infringe on 2A? How can any of them stand up in court? This is one nasty lesson the people are going to learn for giving too much power for far too long to progressive democrats.

Unconstitutional laws are not laws


Does anyone know where I can get an earthquake voodoo doll? Ive been hoping for the big one to hit while all politicians are in session with progs back home on vaca from DC but nothing has happened yet.
__________________
SavingtheRepublic Through The Art of Political Guerrilla Warfare
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 08-14-2013, 8:16 PM
calAWBsux calAWBsux is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 298
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

It sucks, but I feel that my only recourse is to GTFO. I have NEVER felt like this. Prior to the Sandy Hook incident, I felt pretty confident, but since then, it's been all down hill. The antis went FULL RETARD after that, especially in this state.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 08-14-2013, 8:23 PM
RM14's Avatar
RM14 RM14 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: SoCal
Posts: 82
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

__________________
"Every absurdity has a champion to defend it." -Oliver Goldsmith
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 08-14-2013, 9:21 PM
epilepticninja's Avatar
epilepticninja epilepticninja is offline
misanthrope
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: In a van, down by the river...
Posts: 3,779
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by calAWBsux View Post
It sucks, but I feel that my only recourse is to GTFO. I have NEVER felt like this. Prior to the Sandy Hook incident, I felt pretty confident, but since then, it's been all down hill. The antis went FULL RETARD after that, especially in this state.
All parts, quoted for truth. I've maintained some type of ties to this state for 25+ years. But now, I can't wait to leave. I wish there were easy answers to "gun violence" but going after the tool is not the solution and it never will be. You cannot legislate hate and discontent out of the human psyche.
__________________
Don't have anything clever to say at this time...
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 08-14-2013, 10:42 PM
cannonierd's Avatar
cannonierd cannonierd is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 69
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BMartin1776 View Post
Ok Im dumb so Id like someone explain how these laws can be passed when they clearly infringe on 2A? How can any of them stand up in court? This is one nasty lesson the people are going to learn for giving too much power for far too long to progressive democrats.

Unconstitutional laws are not laws


Does anyone know where I can get an earthquake voodoo doll? Ive been hoping for the big one to hit while all politicians are in session with progs back home on vaca from DC but nothing has happened yet.
Law makers can past whatever their hearts content. They leave it to the courts to tell when they are wrong and they hope "the people" will not go to the court but just accept is as the new norm and move on with their now adjusted lives. In the meant time if the law is to be challenged in the court system it takes time and until such time as it is struct down its in effect and people will be prosecuted under that law or your weapons confiscated and destroyed. Sad state of affairs were in here in California. I wrote to my Politician Mr. Dickenson concerning AB169. No response back fell on deaf ears.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 08-15-2013, 3:31 AM
tpc13 tpc13 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 521
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

They will go after handguns next. Just wait you'll see
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 3:07 AM.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Proudly hosted by GeoVario the Premier 2A host.
Calguns.net, the 'Calguns' name and all associated variants and logos are ® Trademark and © Copyright 2002-2016, Calguns.net an Incorporated Company All Rights Reserved.