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Old 08-05-2013, 7:40 AM
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Default 7.62x39/300 Blk PA ACSS scopes (ARE HERE!!!!!!!!!)

They are here!!!! Grab them while they last!!!
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Primary Arms ACSS 7.62x39/300BLK 1-6x


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Here is sneak pic of the reticle and the Prototype testing.
It was just as fast as any red dot at 1x and at 6x I could hit all the way to 500 yards and easy!
Using 7.62x39 Golden Tiger for this test. MythBusting AK accuracy! AK's are more accurate then given credit for!!

For 300Blk 110gr at 2400 its dead on! We will be putting out info on BDC for various 110gr and your drop for subsonic.

This reticle is a giant leap forward for 7.62x39 and 300BLK





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Old 08-05-2013, 9:12 AM
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What's the estimated price and what side rail did you use for testing?
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Old 08-05-2013, 9:58 AM
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What's the estimated price and what side rail did you use for testing?
We tested MI and UTG
Price should be below $300 but not sure..

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Very interested in these. I have an x39 AR-15 and several SKS rifles that this might be suited for. Awesome news.
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Very interested in these. I have an x39 AR-15 and several SKS rifles that this might be suited for. Awesome news.
Yes it will be dead on with Sks when zero is established at 100 yards instead of 50 yards like an AK47. What is the barrel length of your AR?

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Yes it will be dead on with Sks when zero is established at 100 yards instead of 50 yards like an AK47. What is the barrel length of your AR?

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Fantastic!

The AR is a 16" barrel - carbine gas system.
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Sweet! Maybe now I can move my hamr back to the 5.56 and slap one of these on my x39 AR also.
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Looks great! Keep us updated.
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I have a feeling the GhettoMan is making an appearance at next year's BARC.
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I have a feeling the GhettoMan is making an appearance at next year's BARC.
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I'll move to HM Limited to make room for you.

Dimitri, will there be an Optisan model with better glass in the future?
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Dimitri, will there be an Optisan model with better glass in the future?
Most likely but with higher price point.



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Wow I better start saving up.
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Wow I better start saving up.
About 120 days out
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Just flawless peace of optic. I look forward to it dimitri. when are you guys going to make a video/clip with a demonstration, that would be awesome. **thumbs up** Looks like another product from PA that I have my eyes and ears on.

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Just flawless peace of optic. I look forward to it dimitri. when are you guys going to make a video/clip with a demonstration, that would be awesome. **thumbs up** Looks like another product from PA that I have my eyes and ears on.

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Soon I hope,have you seen the demo of the 5.56mm version? Our videos are real time of us shooting. All we do is dial in at 0 range and the BDC does all the work we do our part calling the wind.
I dialed it in at 50 yards and started at 400 and 500 yards! I was surprised how easy it was to hit 500! AK's and the 7.62x39 are more accurate then we have been told.

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When and how much with the MI side mount?

Please don't ruin your reputation by lumping in with UTG products.
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When and how much with the MI side mount?

Please don't ruin your reputation by lumping in with UTG products.
MI mount looks prettier, but UTG side mounts hold zero just fine. Dimitri knows what he's talking about. You can also buy the UTG Pro model side mount if made in USA is very important to you.
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When and how much with the MI side mount?

Please don't ruin your reputation by lumping in with UTG products.
Any side mount that will hold zero will work. As far as the UTG like mentioned it holds zero and works.

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Can't wait for the 2.5 fixed!
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Can't wait for the 2.5 fixed!
The 2.5 for 7.62x39?

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I'll be getting one for my 7.62x39 AR. I have your 3.5x fixed scope on there right now which will move to the .223 AR
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I'll be getting one for my 7.62x39 AR. I have your 3.5x fixed scope on there right now which will move to the .223 AR
You should sale it and get a 1-6 5.56 for your AR they will be here in september






http://youtu.be/nxwaiDeXP8c

What size barrel is your 7.62x39

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You should sale it and get a 1-6 5.56 for your AR they will be here in september






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What size barrel is your 7.62x39

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not a bad idea. The 7.62x39 is 18" and shoots the Golden Tiger stuff really well.
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dimitri, so is this different than the one calibrated for 5.56 1-6x?

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary-.../pa1-6xrbd.htm
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dimitri, so is this different than the one calibrated for 5.56 1-6x?

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary-.../pa1-6xrbd.htm
Yes 5.56 and 7.62x39 ballistics are very different.

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My 16" 7.62x39 AR upper is impatiently waiting for this to release!!
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dimitri, how do i sign up for the 5.56 when it comes out? item shows out of stock on your website
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dimitri, how do i sign up for the 5.56 when it comes out? item shows out of stock on your website
https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary-.../pa1-6xrbd.htm

Where it says notify me when back in stock on the bottom right corner?

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I'll be getting one for a .300 BLK and one for a 5.56x45. I signed up for the 5.56 stock email notification, but I don't see where I can do the same for the 7.62 version.

Great reticle. But, what range is the 8.6mph lead calibrated for?
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I'll be getting one for a .300 BLK and one for a 5.56x45. I signed up for the 5.56 stock email notification, but I don't see where I can do the same for the 7.62 version.

Great reticle. But, what range is the 8.6mph lead calibrated for?
8.6 is the average target speed holding a weapon. Effective 50-300 yards. And more if you just lead a bit more.

Start the video below at 11:00

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I cannnot wait to try this out. I am waiting patiently for more info.
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I cannnot wait to try this out. I am waiting patiently for more info.
As long as you get a good zero and do your part it will surprise you!!
AK irons are to blame for lack of accuracy in the AK platform. The rear and front sight are way to close, there is no windage adjustments and plain hard to aim with but still effective out to 300
I like having the ACSS on 1-6 side saddle with QD mount. I found it to be just as fast as any red dot but still be able to control a large area out to 500 yards.

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1. when do expect scope for 7.62? do you know price?
2. do you have scope for 5.45?
Do you have any additional info about scopes? it will be magnification x6?

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Thinking of mounting this on one of those Texas weapon systems rails. I just need to factor in weight. It would be easier if I had a side rail on my ak.
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1. when do expect scope for 7.62? do you know price?
2. do you have scope for 5.45?
Do you have any additional info about scopes? it will be magnification x6?

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I believe its about 100 days out.
Around $250
5.45 scope is due next month
Its on our site under PA scopes
1-6x compatible with 5.56-5.45-308
The instructions tell you how to zero depending on gun and altitude. 7n6 is dead on out to 800 and what I shoot the most. The magnification is 1-6x at 1x its like a red dot at 6x its a scope.
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Thinking of mounting this on one of those Texas weapon systems rails. I just need to factor in weight. It would be easier if I had a side rail on my ak.
I have never tested that mount. As long as it holds zero it should work just fine.

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Thinking of mounting this on one of those Texas weapon systems rails. I just need to factor in weight. It would be easier if I had a side rail on my ak.
I would think the TWS dogleg is lighter since it replaces the original dust cover. With a side mount you are adding weight to it. Midwest Industry mount is 9oz which is half a pound. Once you add the scope you are adding 1.5 lbs to the rifle.
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It didn't feel heavy at all. I had to send it away for a cattail to be made for it and miss it like crazy I am taking off my Ultimak and micro once I get it back. At 1x its as fast as any dot and at 6x nothing is safe 500 yards out! To me thats huge!

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