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Old 07-30-2013, 1:49 PM
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Default Los Angeles AFB (LAAFB) getting gun shop!

I hadn't heard anything about this, but I was in the BX at LAAFB and they have installed a gunshop! The counters are built and all they need to do is move in the inventory. They said they are waiting on the licence to clear and can open in August/Spetember as soon as the last clearence is ready.

I was at Langley VA, when they opened the new gun shop there in 2012 and the same kind of delays cost them a couple months to open.

I found this link that they were planning to open in June, so they've already been delayed a couple months at LAAFB.
http://www.shopmyexchange.com/Exchan...B_projects.htm

I just didn't expect to get one of these base gun shops in CALIFORNIA. I'm so happy!
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Old 07-30-2013, 2:05 PM
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Thats surprising, especially on such a small in base. And in komifornia no less.
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Old 07-30-2013, 3:19 PM
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Vandenberg AFB has a gun counter and I believe that Travis does as well. They are few and far between but there are some.
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Fort Irwin got one back in 2010
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Sweet, no sales tax on guns! lol
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They opened up one in 29 Palms earlier this year too.
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The Edwards AFB gun counter took about a year to open due to delays from CA and the Base. The other nice thing is they only charge $25 for the DROS.
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The last time I was at Beale AFB, I noticed they now have a small gun counter in the back of the BX. Never thought I would see that.
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Good to know, hopefully they are more informed than the people running the Edwards AFB gun counter.
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Good to know, hopefully they are more informed than the people running the Edwards AFB gun counter.
I would doubt that. Probably not considered at all on their job application.
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Vandenberg AFB has a gun counter and I believe that Travis does as well. They are few and far between but there are some.
Travis doesn't have one. They built the area for it, but they made it into an outdoors section. They keep hunting and fishing stuff in there but no guns.
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Yeah, don't hold your breath. The gun shop at Edwards AFB had an empty gun area for a year or more because of the CA rules/regs. On the brighter side, eventually you will have some guns to purchase.
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Since they are a federal reservation, do they use the federal "NICS" for the instant check or do they use the CA DOJ with the ten day waiting period?

While they couldn't sell things that were not CA compliant (because you would be subject to arrest for "importation" as soon as you left the base), it seems like the national "instant" check would be the appropriate system to use.

The reason I ask is that, while I might want to visit Ft Irwin again (stationed there from 86-89), I don't think I'd want to stay for ten extra days, just to pick up a gun.
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When buying firearms on base in CA you still have to appease the CA DOJ and their stupid 10 day period.
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AAFES follows all the rules and regulations set forth by the state the PX/BX is located in.
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Sigh. No cool "old memories of days when I was young and dumb..." (instead of just dumb - beat you to it!) road trip and gun shopping excursion to "Planet Irwin" in my future.
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While they couldn't sell things that were not CA compliant (because you would be subject to arrest for "importation" as soon as you left the base), it seems like the national "instant" check would be the appropriate system to use.
Active duty military do not need to register guns brought in from outside the state. Theoretically, since LAAFB is federal property couldn't active duty military purchase non CA compliant weapons (however still abiding by the 10 round max mags rule) and then bring them into the state (off base)?

Will LAAFB act as an FFL and do FFL transfers?
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I'm pretty sure it will operate just the same as any other California gunshop.

Probably won't do private transfers though because you wouldn't be able to bring your gun on base.

I contacted the store manager for an update. He said 4-8 more weeks because of Safety reviews and they had to do some extra construction in the back.
I'm thinking October 1st now.
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I'm pretty sure it will operate just the same as any other California gunshop.

Probably won't do private transfers though because you wouldn't be able to bring your gun on base.

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Too bad, would have been nice to have an out of state transfer not be taxed like most of the rest of the U.S. has.
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Good to know, hopefully they are more informed than the people running the Edwards AFB gun counter.
The white army vet (younger guy) knows his stuff. Maybe you got the older Filipino mafia member ????
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Maybe you got the older Filipino mafia member ????

What a crappy thing to say.

Calling a new FFL a criminal!
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I went in today and asked what the status was. They said it is in the generals office waiting to be signed off. They plan on the beginning of next month. This is promising that it is on the generals desk, but they also told me in the middle of september that it would be open on 1 oct.

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Is it open yet?
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No, and they have no idea when it will open.
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Figures! Sounded way too good to be true! Thanks
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Still not open as of 1/3/14. Checked with an employee and she said it was "up to the base."
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up to the CO whos wife is no doubt anti-gun
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Early 60's I bought a Colt 1911 at MCRD and last month I was in Vegas and drove over to Nellis AFB they had a great gun section in the BX most of had 30 or better handguns and a fair selection of long guns. But alas zero 22 LR ammo.
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As of 1/7/14, theres a "Firearms Expert" working in the gun section, and he says that all the paperwork has been cleared and the BX is now working with the suppliers on guns and ammo. They expect to start selling in "early Feb."

As far as pricing goes, I saw a couple of price tags for shotguns running from $260-400. They wouldnt price match amazon for a Nikon P223 scope (from $200 to $150), saying they will only price match local brick&mortar stores. I called Edwards AFB to get quote on a Beretta M9, and they told me it was $660. You can pick one up at Proforce in Brea for $628 + tax, so its a tiny bit cheaper but not by much. I was excited but now Im thinking there wont be any amazing deals here.
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As of 1/7/14, theres a "Firearms Expert" working in the gun section, and he says that all the paperwork has been cleared and the BX is now working with the suppliers on guns and ammo. They expect to start selling in "early Feb."

As far as pricing goes, I saw a couple of price tags for shotguns running from $260-400. They wouldnt price match amazon for a Nikon P223 scope (from $200 to $150), saying they will only price match local brick&mortar stores. I called Edwards AFB to get quote on a Beretta M9, and they told me it was $660. You can pick one up at Proforce in Brea for $628 + tax, so its a tiny bit cheaper but not by much. I was excited but now Im thinking there wont be any amazing deals here.
On principal I'd get it from the base not to give any money to the state. However, having to go through the process to get the form signed by one's commander to get authorization to patronize the gun store...why, why is this a requirement?
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I was at LA AFB yesterday, Jan. 17, and the gun store looks like it was ready to sell firearms but the gun display cases were empty. They had rifle and handgun cases, rifle soft cases, targets, safes, cleaning supplies, eye and hearing protection, and Blackhawk holsters and accessories. I heard they might open around mid-February.
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Interesting.

Do 60% service connected disabled veterans got PX privelges?

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I was at LA AFB yesterday, Jan. 17, and the gun store looks like it was ready to sell firearms but the gun display cases were empty. They had rifle and handgun cases, rifle soft cases, targets, safes, cleaning supplies, eye and hearing protection, and Blackhawk holsters and accessories. I heard they might open around mid-February.
Been that way since at least sept!
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On principal I'd get it from the base not to give any money to the state. However, having to go through the process to get the form signed by one's commander to get authorization to patronize the gun store...why, why is this a requirement?
Is that an Air Force thing? I had a friend buy a gun at the Vandenberg Exchange and all he needed was a copy of his orders showing he was stationed in CA. I have bought several guns at the JBLM Exchange in WA and again just needed orders showing I was stationed in the state.
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If you live on base in base housing, not the dorms, you have to have a Form-1314 signed by your commander notifying security forces that you have a firearm and essentially saying that you have not committed a crime under the lautenberg amendment.

Other than that if you live off base there's no other paperwork required.
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In the Army you have to register them if you live on post but you don't need your commanders permission to buy firearms. The comment I quoted made it seem like you needed permission before you even purchased.
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In the Army you have to register them if you live on post but you don't need your commanders permission to buy firearms. The comment I quoted made it seem like you needed permission before you even purchased.
I think the permission in question was for the base commander, and/or the 61st ABG, to approve gun sales in the BX. Very few people on that base live in base housing, so getting permission from the commander is only an issue for a select few individuals. In fact, the base housing isn't even located on the base itself.

The good news is that they are now officially up and running. The "grand opening" isn't until next week, but they've started selling already. It's not a very big store but they say that they can special order things. I was able to get 1000 rounds of .22 today, so that was nice!
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Good to know. My wife is a Navy recruiter right now, and i work right across the street! Can spouses buy there?
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