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Old 07-28-2013, 9:14 AM
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My RIA is wearing a temporary Hogue Wrap-Around grip. Its pretty comfortable and seems to cushion recoil except I'm not a fan of finger grooves and they look hideous.

What are everyone's thoughts on the most comfortable functional grips for a heavy use range gun? I originally got wraparound because besides price RIA has a smooth front strap.

Also I have stupidly long fingers and I'm not sure what trigger type is on the RIA tactical but lately the more I shoot it I'm finding it alot more comfortable to pull trigger with first joint than cramp up hand trying to use pad as I normally do on Glocks and M&P's. Any recommendations for a good long trigger that's longer than RIA's? Was looking at 10-8 flat trigger but its hard to go by photos to tell if its longer.
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Old 07-28-2013, 9:18 AM
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I pretty much only buy VZ grips.
https://vzgrips.com/

The trigger upgrade will more than likely simply drop right in, and I've replaced all mine to short triggers, and use Brownells for all my parts.
http://www.brownells.com/

BTW that's a long trigger depicted above (I don't have a pic with the short one I use now)
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Old 07-28-2013, 9:43 AM
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Was looking at 10-8 flat trigger but its hard to go by photos to tell if its longer.
Here's the 10-8 trigger, and if your hands are exceptionally large, you can try an arched MSH as well.

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Old 07-28-2013, 10:19 AM
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Here's the 10-8 trigger, and if your hands are exceptionally large, you can try an arched MSH as well.

Love that Trigger, I have one on my TLE. It's superb!
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Old 07-28-2013, 10:26 AM
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Love that Trigger, I have one on my TLE. It's superb!
Trigger heck, gun!
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Old 07-28-2013, 4:44 PM
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The 10-8 flat trigger is the same length as the traditional long trigger.

While a new trigger might "drop in", they weren't designed to. The 10-8 trigger is meant to be fitted to a gun to minimize play in the channels
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I have tried 3 flat triggers: STI/SVI, 10-8 and Caspian Trik.
I like the STI/SVI slightly better, because the trigger pad is smooth (just my preference).
The 10-8 is slightly serrated, and the Trik is serrated more aggressively straight down.
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Old 07-28-2013, 9:45 PM
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Is it longer than the RIA 1911 tactical trigger? I can't tell if its medium or long. Only interested in upgrade if it's a little longer for my spaghetti fingers...
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how about the Pachmayr wrap around grips on the m c operator?

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Helpful post! I am looking at the long trigger from Brownells as well. Do not like the short trigger on my Auto Ordnance.

http://www.brownells.com/handgun-par...429-53343.aspx

Regarding grips...you might want to look at the Hogue 1911 grip with the small hump in the palm swell...

http://www.topgunsupply.com/hogue-ru...1911-govt.html
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Is it longer than the RIA 1911 tactical trigger? I can't tell if its medium or long. Only interested in upgrade if it's a little longer for my spaghetti fingers...
Should be just by a little bit, as most people say RIA's are medium.

All else, it's an upgrade in:
-lighter weight in trigger material.
-gain over-travel screw for finer adjustment.

Oh, 1911 triggers are not a drop-in part, but easy to install and adjust.
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:39 PM
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I figure I should learn how to start fitting parts. May as well start with simple trigger and carefully filing a bit off the top...
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I figure I should learn how to start fitting parts. May as well start with simple trigger and carefully filing a bit off the top...
Every trigger I've tried so far in my RIA required no fitting and just dropped in, surprisingly. More likely than not it may occur in your case too. if not, color the top and bottom of the trigger shoe with a sharpie and insert the trigger with a slight persuasion until it stops. Remove the trigger and see where it is rubbing an d evenly remove material from the entire top and/or bottom where you see the rubbing.

Gliding the shoe across sandpaper on a flat surface works great here.

You might also want to make sure there are no burrs in the frames trigger opening which can scratch the trigger shoe. This may also be a good time to smooth out the trigger track in the frame. When marking the shoe with a sharpie, people sometimes also mark the sides incase that needs fitting but it probably won't be necessary here.

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I figure I should learn how to start fitting parts. May as well start with simple trigger and carefully filing a bit off the top...
Its quite easy and fun. Shouldn't take you more than 30 mins if everything is planned carefully and you have all the needed things around.

Good luck.
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Helpful post! I am looking at the long trigger from Brownells as well. Do not like the short trigger on my Auto Ordnance.

http://www.brownells.com/handgun-par...429-53343.aspx

Regarding grips...you might want to look at the Hogue 1911 grip with the small hump in the palm swell...

http://www.topgunsupply.com/hogue-ru...1911-govt.html
Thanks for the links, though my phone won't open brownells properly and keeps going to mobile site start page. I did however find Cylinder & Slide's long trigger is 6.1 cm vs the usual 5.7 cm of other long triggers.

I never saw those hogue palm swell grips before and just ordered a pair off amazon now. I have their basic checkered diamond grips and the wrap around and wanted something between the two. Looks like what I need.

Good tips on the fitting process too, I should break out my dusty kuhnausen books as well...

Thanks

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VZ Grips or even inexpensive Hogue rubber grips (non-wraparound) would be good.
STI or SVI Long Curved Trigger.

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Old 07-29-2013, 2:19 PM
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I wish VZ made a grip that doesn't have the layered look. So far haven't been a fan, but I want the performance I've heard they offer.
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I have this one and love it.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/614...luminum-silver

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Hogue Rubber, non-wrap around, palm swell. I use it on all my 1911's.

Look on the Brownell's webpage. They usually give you the length of the trigger, like the Videki and you can do the trigger install yourself.
Just remember, it's easy to remove more material, once it's gone, you need another.
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I wish VZ made a grip that doesn't have the layered look. So far haven't been a fan, but I want the performance I've heard they offer.
They offer several solid colors as well. All the ones you would think they would have they have...Black, Army Green, Earth Brown, Military brown, Steel Gray.
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Old 07-29-2013, 8:51 PM
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They offer several solid colors as well. All the ones you would think they would have they have...Black, Army Green, Earth Brown, Military brown, Steel Gray.
Ah, I need to look more places. Mine is still in jail, hehe.
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