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Old 07-23-2013, 8:58 PM
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UPDATE: Stuck brass casing was lodged in there pretty good and needed the barrel to be taken out to dislodge it. This rifle was purchased by a calgunner here named "fastkevin". He's infamous here for this thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=539963 . Long story short, Seller mentioned it was Factory S&W knowing I am a newbie at AR's then a malfunction happened and found out it was not factory but home made with CHEAP parts & improper headspacing as verified by AR15barrels. Bought it for $1,350 during the AR scare. Imagine how much money he made!!

Here is the link to the PM between me and the seller.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...0fastkevin.pdf

I apologize but I wasn't able to wipe out the Hoppes I sprayed on it to take out the debris on the barrel so bear with me if you see a filthy rifle.




The Fugly Cheap *** bolt that came with it:


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Old 07-23-2013, 8:59 PM
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I could be wrong but it looks like you have a casing in there that has separated at the base and has been lodged in the chamber.
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You can't tell me you don't see that case half stuck in there. Buy a case extractor for 8 bucks.
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Looks like you have a casing stuck in the barrel.
Where you shooting steel and brass?
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Nothing else to say here that hasn't been said besides start shooting quality ammo.
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Lol wtf. Am I seeing what I'm seeing.
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I bet reloaded ammunition.


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I might be seeing things but that chamber almost looks like its for a different caliber

Somethings stuck in there..

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Old 07-23-2013, 9:33 PM
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google "stag upper tula ammo".

Personally the minimum quality I shoot is Lake City.
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Don't mix steel and brass.
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I bet reloaded ammunition.
Nothing wrong with reloaded ammunition. Fault should be directed to the person doing the reloading poorly. But yes, stuck case severed at the base. Extractor probably ripped the base off when an overly expanded or ruptured case became lodged with no plans of ejecting.
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" I cleaned it with a brass brush, bore snake, gun scrubber....."

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I could be wrong but it looks like you have a casing in there that has separated at the base and has been lodged in the chamber.
I agree. It looks like part of a casing is stuck in there. I once had a case shear in half but it all still extracted. I noticed your trying to chamber steel cased ammo. If that is what you have been using that is the likely cause for FTE. I have had way too many of FTE's using that stuff.

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Does anyone else notice that the feed ramps in the receiver look like they were cut with a dremel? Or is it just me/bad lighting?

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Just to be clear, never shot the tula. Its just my shtf ammo but never shot it. Shot winchester and federals only. No reloads were shot since I am breaking in the rifle. To everyone who said it might be a stuck casing, I do believe it is. How do I take that off? Thanks for all the help.
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The piece stuck in the chamber pictured above would look like this if it were to be stuck on a live round and then extracted:



The broken off case head extracted when the gun originally jammed.
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Look like brass. And look like homemade M4 feed ramp.
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" I cleaned it with a brass brush, bore snake, gun scrubber....."

lies all lies
I mentioned this to make sure that I checked for any small debris that might be lodged in it. Not sure how that would be a lie. If ur not helping, stfu.
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Does anyone else notice that the feed ramps in the receiver look like they were cut with a dremel? Or is it just me/bad lighting?

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I saw that too. Fyi, fastkevin sold this rifle to me. Might want to watch out for this douche.
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Tula is fine most of the time, just make sure to shoot it after the brass.

You have a case stuck in your chammber.
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I got a lot more questions regarding this AR than I got answers... WTF!!!
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Looks like you have a casing stuck in the barrel.
Where you shooting steel and brass?
Shooting brass. The tula was for my shtf ammo. The last ammo I shot were federals.
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I got a lot more questions regarding this AR than I got answers... WTF!!!
Ask away. FYI, bought it from a guy here named fastkevin. Watch out for that guy!
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Old 07-23-2013, 9:59 PM
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Is that a vulcan or blackthorn upper?
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Look like brass. And look like homemade M4 feed ramp.
Feed ramps look fine.
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Ask away. FYI, bought it from a guy here named fastkevin. Watch out for that guy!
Not defending the guy, but it is your responsibility as the buyer to know what you are buying. I would have stripped the rifle before purchasing and you would have seen that feed ramp right away.

But I hope you get it all sorted out and start to enjoy the rifle again
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Looks like a big ole burr on those home made M4 feed ramps. Wonder if that burr deformed the case before going into chamber.

Also, what makes U think this is a Stag upper? Maybe U might have a Stag barrel on a "aftermarket" upper. Was this a home built upper from the seller?

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Er, are you seriously talking crap about someone when you can't even see the big brass case in your chamber?

Not saying what you were sold was up to spec, but your current issue isn't part of that.
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Looks like a big ole burr on those home made M4 feed ramps. Wonder if that burr deformed the case before going into chamber.

Also, what makes U think this is a Stag upper? Maybe U might have a Stag barrel on a "aftermarket" upper. Was this a home built upper from the seller?
You are also right. The barrel is stag on an aftermarket upper.
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Not defending the guy, but it is your responsibility as the buyer to know what you are buying. I would have stripped the rifle before purchasing and you would have seen that feed ramp right away.

But I hope you get it all sorted out and start to enjoy the rifle again
When I bought the AR, I was starting to learn about them and somewhat a newbie. i actually still am. The seller made it sound like everything was factory and according to spec.
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Er, are you seriously talking crap about someone when you can't even see the big brass case in your chamber?

Not saying what you were sold was up to spec, but your current issue isn't part of that.
There's a lot more to that story but dont want to go on detail but just want to get this thing sorted out. I also had issues with the bolt assembly. Now that I know more about AR's , I'm starting to think I got a patched up ar.
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Fair enough.

Like everyone's said...that's a stuck casing. Get that out and it should work fine.
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I thinks you are jumping to tje conclusion that the seller scammed you. There are any nimber of reasons why this could have happened.
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I thinks you are jumping to tje conclusion that the seller scammed you. There are any nimber of reasons why this could have happened.
Like I said, there is a lot more to this that I dont want to go to details. Lets just leave it at that. I just need to know how to take the casing off.
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Use a case extractor, like some people have said.

If you're in a bind and want to get it out now, you can probably use a wooden dowel. Otherwise, a solid piece of something with a hook should work too if you pull on it.

If you use the dowel method, you should be able to put a bullet in the barrel from the muzzle and push it down with the dowel and a hammer. That'll fill up the chamber enough to push the casing out. It's a total jury rig but should work without damaging anything.
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Definately bubba job on those feedramps
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Like I said, there is a lot more to this that I dont want to go to details. Lets just leave it at that. I just need to know how to take the casing off.
Yet you'll call the seller a d-bag without sharing the details? Hmmm....
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You could also try using a 9mm bore brush. Stick it in the casing and pull out out.
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Here's a thread on a similar problem with a stuck case.

Btw, as mentioned by others, the M4 feed ramp looks like it was done with a Dremel. I know on both of my Stag uppers, there's no M4 cuts.
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