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Old 12-17-2007, 3:59 PM
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For 2nd proof of residency on a handgun purchase, isn't any valid bill from the last 90 good or does it have to be from the current month?
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Old 12-17-2007, 4:16 PM
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Last 90 days is good. You actually only need 1 proof of residency. The DL is not proof of residency just proof of age and identification. I once saw an FFL who asked the person to show 3 months worth of the utility bill but then the person was using the store's computer so I guess it wasn't that big of a deal.
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For 2nd proof of residency on a handgun purchase, isn't any valid bill from the last 90 good or does it have to be from the current month?
The whole list:

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dlrfaqs.php#33G

Car registration seems to be the easiest?

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Old 12-17-2007, 4:48 PM
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he might have been a res alien.they need 3 months of consectutive for the feds
Hmm that explains it. I've done a few PPTs with residential aliens and I guess the FFL skipped that part.
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Old 12-17-2007, 4:49 PM
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he might have been a res alien.they need 3 months of consectutive for the feds
<raises hand>

Yup. I used credit card statements for my last rifle.

http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b13

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Old 12-26-2007, 8:35 PM
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Yup. I used credit card statements for my last rifle.

http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b13

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Credit card statements are not good enough for California as it does not prove your actual residency (PO box for example).

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs.php#7
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Old 12-26-2007, 8:51 PM
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Credit card statements are not good enough for California as it does not prove your actual residency (PO box for example).

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs.php#7

Did you READ the link you cited?

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If the buyer is not a U.S. Citizen, then he or she is required to demonstrate that he or she is legally within the United States by providing to the firearms dealer with documentation that contains his/her Alien Registration Number or I-94 Number.
Purchasers of handguns are also required to provide proof of California residency, such as a utility bill, residential lease, property deed, or government-issued identification (other than a drivers license or other DMV-issued identification).


He is using the credit card statements to satisfy the feds on a RIFLE purchase, not the DOJ on a HANDGUN purchase.
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I just bought a handgun, I just showed my car registration and license. That's it
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Car registration and license will work as long as the info is current.
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Car registration and license will work as long as the info is current.
+2 - Just used my car registration on a pick-up today!
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<raises hand>

Yup. I used credit card statements for my last rifle.

http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b13

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That's funny, I thought it was just an additional proof on HG's not LG's. When I purchased my shotgun and did a PPT for a mini 14 at Big 5, they only needed the DL, when I asked if they needed my Car Reg., they said that was only for HG's.
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Car registration and license will work as long as the info is current.
But not too current, last year whe I bought a new HG at Target Masters in Milpitas, I had just renewed my Car Reg at AAA and shredded the old one. My new one was not valid yet??? The Reg. showed something like Valid 02/05/07 through 02/05/08 and it was 02/01/07, so I had to wait an additional couple of days on the waiting period because they were being jerks.
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:55 AM
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It says hunting or fishing licenses do not count as they are not issued by the government.

However, lifetime licenses are issued by the government and do count.
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Permanent Green card holders have to show three current consecutive utility bills (cable/ sat, water, electicity, gas, telephone bills, but not car registration, insurance, credit card bills etc) when DROSing any handgun or long gun. Ask me how I know?
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Permanent Green card holders have to show three current consecutive utility bills (cable/ sat, water, electicity, gas, telephone bills, but not car registration, insurance, credit card bills etc) when DROSing any handgun or long gun. Ask me how I know?
http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b13

Credit card statements _are_ valid for fed requirements. I used them for my last 2 shotgun and 2 rifle purchases. CC statements + gc ( and alien number ) + CA drivers and I was set.

Credit card statements are not valid for CA residency for handgun, but you can use a DMV registration for that, no?

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CCW works well also....

Exempts you from the HSC and is an accepted proof of residency as well.

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Old 12-28-2007, 6:43 PM
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http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b13

Credit card statements _are_ valid for fed requirements. I used them for my last 2 shotgun and 2 rifle purchases. CC statements + gc ( and alien number ) + CA drivers and I was set.

Credit card statements are not valid for CA residency for handgun, but you can use a DMV registration for that, no?

-- Michael
I only used lease agreement + CA DL + GC to get my last handgun.

Didn't need three months of anything.
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i used my motorcycle registration for my xd
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i used my motorcycle registration for my xd
I used to use that too until it got wet in my wallet jumping in a river(don't ask)
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Permanent Green card holders have to show three current consecutive utility bills (cable/ sat, water, electicity, gas, telephone bills, but not car registration, insurance, credit card bills etc) when DROSing any handgun or long gun. Ask me how I know?
I guess it depends on the FFL, I know one FFL who asked for car registration when the purchaser forgot to bring his utility bills. Ask me how I know.
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So can you, or can you not use a vehicle registration for proof of residency in addition to a CDL?

I don't have a lease agreement or utility bills. Plenty of CC bills.
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Yes you can, as long as your car reg address matches the address on your DL. That's almost always how I DROS my weapons. I pretty much am guaranteed never to forget my own car driving to the gunshop or my liscence in my wallet.

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i used my motorcycle registration for my xd
same here. It's all I had when in my wallet I used my scooter to make a purchase. Else, scooter registration was in the scooter too.
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