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Old 04-14-2018, 3:17 AM
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There's now a new hurdle on the path to buy a gun. It all depends on what stamp you have on the right corner of your California driver license.

Nearly two months ago the California DMV added the Real ID. The DMV said there was no need to rush to apply because the ID doesn't take effect until October 2020.

But if you renewed your license after January 22nd and you didn't opt for the Real ID, you can't buy a gun.

In late January, California began offering a federal compliant Real ID driver license or ID card. It's a necessary card after October 2020 to check in at the airport or enter military bases and federal facilities.

But Jake Belemjian owner of the Firing Line gun shop in Clovis says if you recently renewed your license and didn't opt for the Real ID you can't buy a gun.

"It's important that everyone understands that yes the State of California regulates firearms but so does the federal government."

If your new license reads, federal limits apply, you can't buy a gun until you get the Real ID.

If your current license has a bear in the right-hand corner, you're good for now. The Firing Line hasn't had to turn any gun buyer away so far. "I would say within the last couple of months the number of those federal limits apply, licenses that we're seeing
is going up. It hasn't become a problem yet but it's only a matter of time before it becomes a problem."

Belemjian says the rule applies to gun owners and even people with permits to carry a concealed weapon.

If you don't have a Real ID or your driver license doesn't have the bear in the corner you need to visit the DMV.
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Old 04-14-2018, 6:09 AM
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This has been around a bit.....

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1428216

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1436248

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1421510

My Sons renewal came, he works on a airport, and I told him he needed to renew in person and bring the documentation. His license came yesterday, We'll see how it turned out today
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But if you renewed your license after January 22nd and you didn't opt for the Real ID, you can't buy a gun.

But Jake Belemjian owner of the Firing Line gun shop in Clovis says if you recently renewed your license and didn't opt for the Real ID you can't buy a gun.
Balony!

I already bought two long guns and one handgun since I renewed my license WITHOUT real ID.

The real ID law takes affect 2020. Then, if your drivers license still doesn't have the marking just bring you passport with you.

No need to give the gov more money to update you drivers license!

Stop with the nonsense!
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I also bought a handgun since without the Real ID.
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Old 04-14-2018, 7:12 AM
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So the ID I have now is fake?
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Old 04-14-2018, 8:07 AM
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Not fake, just not compliant. Off roster you might say.
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Balony!

I already bought two long guns and one handgun since I renewed my license WITHOUT real ID.

The real ID law takes affect 2020. Then, if your drivers license still doesn't have the marking just bring you passport with you.

No need to give the gov more money to update you drivers license!

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I also bought a handgun since without the Real ID.
Some shops are unaware of this issue. Most of us are not. I have had to turn people away. I've talked to CADOJ once a week for about a month and they have still not changed their stance that these ID are not legal for buying firearms. There is nothing in the system that will read this ID as non compliant, the problem will come later when the dealer is inspected.
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Better safe than sorry. Would suck to go to buy a gun and not have the right ID. I don't blame gun shops for playing it safe. I just got mine renewed in January before they started issuing the new one. I was going to wait but will be getting my Class B for work in the next couple months anyway and will just get a new one then.
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Old 04-14-2018, 10:36 AM
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If your CDL is due for renewal this year then get a Real ID cost is the same.

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Balony!

I already bought two long guns and one handgun since I renewed my license WITHOUT real ID.

The real ID law takes affect 2020. Then, if your drivers license still doesn't have the marking just bring you passport with you.

No need to give the gov more money to update you drivers license!

Stop with the nonsense!
CA DOJ has advised CA FFLs to not accept Drivers Licenses with the wording "Federal Limits Apply" which is now what they are issuing unless you opt for the real ID. There is already a discussion about this in the FFL Forum.
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Old 04-14-2018, 11:00 AM
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Old 04-14-2018, 11:03 AM
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Passport useless for ca dros. Lots of posts on this.
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Thanks to the hordes of illegal aliens who got CA drivers licenses so they can vote Democrat in the next election. Move or drown.
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CA DOJ has advised CA FFLs to not accept Drivers Licenses with the wording "Federal Limits Apply" which is now what they are issuing unless you opt for the real ID. There is already a discussion about this in the FFL Forum.
If that's the case they need to send out a big fat bold memo because none of the FFL's I've bought from cared or mentioned anything.

I bought a gun one day before my birthday and my new non real ID license wasn't valid until my birthday so I gave both licenses. That FFL looked at both and even commented about it.

So I dros'd it as a resident with my valid license, but somehow when I picked it up and I wasn't "real" with my new license?

Eventually we'll need ID to wipe our arses, but not to vote!
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I moved recently and my DL would have expired in December. I renewed my DL with a real I’d and it has my correct address. I have applied for a COE and to renew my 03 FFL. Pretty soon I will be good to go. With the roster getting lamer by the day, my future purchases will be mostly C&Rs.
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Isn't "federal limits apply" for illegal aliens?
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Isn't "federal limits apply" for illegal aliens?
Nope! Itís for anyone who doesnít apply in person for a real id so I guess itís a fake id who knows this state is retarded
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If that's the case they need to send out a big fat bold memo because none of the FFL's I've bought from cared or mentioned anything.

I bought a gun one day before my birthday and my new non real ID license wasn't valid until my birthday so I gave both licenses. That FFL looked at both and even commented about it.

So I dros'd it as a resident with my valid license, but somehow when I picked it up and I wasn't "real" with my new license?

Eventually we'll need ID to wipe our arses, but not to vote!
They did in the DES system, but it was quite some time ago. They put out a notice that said we can't accept an ID with Federal Limits Apply. This was originally in regards to the illegals ID. When the Federal Limits Apply stared showing up with non illegals most of us FFL's stared calling CADOJ and were told we had to treat them like the illegal one.
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Old 04-15-2018, 10:19 AM
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Who knows, maybe someday we can get law that says you have to have a Real ID to vote, the democrats would be doomed.
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Military ID and no drive. I can buy!
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I just did a PPT @Ammobro, Luckily I have a real ID if not I needed to bring my birth certificate along with the other necessary Docs.
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What documents are needed to get the real ID?
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My CA CDL does not have a bear "in the corner", but it has a bear on the right side. The icon can only be seen when viewed from it's center, with a backlight and it's shape is outlined by perforations.
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Real ID has the bear with a Real ID star on his azz. How appropriate.

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Balony!

I already bought two long guns and one handgun since I renewed my license WITHOUT real ID.

The real ID law takes affect 2020. Then, if your drivers license still doesn't have the marking just bring you passport with you.

No need to give the gov more money to update you drivers license!

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I also bought a handgun since without the Real ID.
If your non-REAL ID license says 'Federal Limits Apply', that is when problems arise. You may not have REAL ID, you may have renewed without REAL ID, but only very recently did they start putting 'FEDERAL LIMITS APPLY' on those IDs.

I also have NON REAL ID, I also buy guns on the regular, but my license does not say FEDERAL LIMITS APPLY, but the new ones do.

If your ID does not say 'FEDERAL LIMITS APPLY' then you are not adding anything to the discussion telling us you bought guns with your NON REAL ID.
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Those of you that purchased guns, did any of you have the "federal limits apply" on the top right corner of your ID?
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If your non-REAL ID license says 'Federal Limits Apply', that is when problems arise. You may not have REAL ID, you may have renewed without REAL ID, but only very recently did they start putting 'FEDERAL LIMITS APPLY' on those IDs.

I also have NON REAL ID, I also buy guns on the regular, but my license does not say FEDERAL LIMITS APPLY, but the new ones do.

If your ID does not say 'FEDERAL LIMITS APPLY' then you are not adding anything to the discussion telling us you bought guns with your NON REAL ID.
^THIS^

some people have already posted that they were refused purchases due to their "new" license having the restrictions on it
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I just got my license renewed. I brought all my documentation to get the Real ID. License arrived on Friday and I received the WRONG one. Now I have to start from scratch again. I am calling the DMV today to see what I can do about it other than stand in a very long line or make another appointment a month away.
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This is going to be a pain in the ***. PP, PP card and Global Entry doesn't have same name (forgot to put Jr. on application 2 PPs and 15 years ago). Don't have a lease, just continued to pay after 1 year lease expired 9 years ago (so month to month).

I think it's great their cracking down on Calif and the fact that they gave anyone with a pulse an Id but it's guna be a PITA.





Will I be able to buy guns with PP and CCW(also doesn't have the Jr printed on it) after 2020? Or do I need to go through the real ID thing? Thanks
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What CA needs is a DOJ issued "Safe Drivers License" with micro-stamping.
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I just got my license renewed. I brought all my documentation to get the Real ID. License arrived on Friday and I received the WRONG one. Now I have to start from scratch again. I am calling the DMV today to see what I can do about it other than stand in a very long line or make another appointment a month away.
That sucks bad. A friend told me this am the same thing happened to him.
I went in this am to get mine I asked several times to make sure I was getting the real id, the last guy told me that's what it says in the computer but said you never know. Not much confidence in them
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So, is her "Sex" a new California category?
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So, is her "Sex" a new California category?
thatís too funny!!
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Better safe than sorry. Would suck to go to buy a gun and not have the right ID. I don't blame gun shops for playing it safe. I just got mine renewed in January before they started issuing the new one. I was going to wait but will be getting my Class B for work in the next couple months anyway and will just get a new one then.
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So just to make it clear, if you still have the old license that hasn't expired and doesn't say "federal limits apply" you can buy a firearm with no issues, correct?


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