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Old 07-10-2013, 4:27 PM
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Perfecto seņor!!

Great first year 1956 sino soviet.. immaculate...

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"Moshchet byt': ya, ih, P, F, G, ch, L, zh

K sozhalenioo ya ne vizhal eti (bookva) na moyom vintovke"

I can read it... can't translate it
(too bad my Russian vocabulary is so limited!) The "non-latin" letters I listed above. Translated: "Maybe: Я, и, ..."
"unfortunately I didn't see those (letters) on my rifle." except П (on the rear sight), that is.



I've discovered another clue on my sks!!!
There is a very faint triangle on the right side of the stock. I'm 99% sure that it has a 21 in it. There is also 21 marked in at least a couple of places on the metal - places not visible unless wood is removed. I suppose this refers to the factory. Does that tell anyone anything?????
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Old 07-10-2013, 5:00 PM
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Thanks, that is what I was thinking as well. There is also a '19' stamped on the left side of the lower receiver well beneath the wood line
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OK here is an update after a quick wipedown with paper towels.

Looks like everything I can see matches EXCEPT the top cover. Also, the stock color looks not too bad once I got the goop off of it.

Also found another bad spot on the stock where the wood is barely hanging on. Would this be considered cracked??

What do you guys think?? Still a keeper right?? Should I try to repair the hanging piece of wood? I would guess by glueing it somehow or just tear it off??








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Interesting batch this turned out to be. Seem to be very early Chinese Type 56 carbine. Some real winners coming in
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Hotwls, that piece is too big to just tear off. When you take it apart to clean it, glue or epoxy that piece down and make sure you clamp it overnight.

This is the best thread on the SKS boards about these rifles:
http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=121146.0
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Old 07-10-2013, 5:35 PM
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.... Factory 26 letter gun
Just to clarify, the term "letter gun" is reference to a 55/56 Russian with a letter following the serial number. Not sure if you knew that or not. So it would be two Russian characters, followed by numbers, followed by an additional letter. It's not a term fitting to a Chinese rifle.
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Old 07-10-2013, 5:48 PM
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Bobby- it looks like you may have struck out with the first one but if that second one is what it appears to be that's a home run. Did you ask Classic for a replacement or refund for the other?

Hotwls13- you might want to sweat the Cosmo out before trying to glue the wood, but that is too big a piece to willingly let go. The cosmo might be the only thing still holding that chunk on! Heck, I would even try to glue those little pieces under the handguard if they are salvageable. I don't know if some steam can help with that ding there though. You'll need to work out how to manage the bulge it left there somehow. Good luck!
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**UPDATE**

I jammed home from worked and boxed up SKS #1 and sent it back to Classic.

So then there was box #2 still sitting in the garage. So I opened it, and it looked pretty good still in the grease. Like a kid on Christmas, I tore it apart and started cleaning it......

WOW!!!!

Classic did me a solid on this one. An all matching (except BLANK top cover) Factory 26 letter gun Everything else matches down to the EP'd gas tube and bolt & bolt carrier. Even the stock is stamped matching.. Perhaps someone can shed some light here. I am not exactly sure what I have but it is awesome. There are ZERO defects with this rifle. The shellac is peeling in a few places but it looks great!

Solid stock
Matching (except blank top cover
75% or better bluing
Mirror bore
No pitting or rust whatsoever.

Here are some pics. It is already completely cleaned up. (I added the sling)

Great rifle... However the sling is for a later type... To adapt your sling loose the leather loop and metal lower loop. Loop the sling directly through the sling loop which is attached to the stock....
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Old 07-10-2013, 6:03 PM
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Scored great on this one, hopefully more will showup in this condition.

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**UPDATE**

I jammed home from worked and boxed up SKS #1 and sent it back to Classic.

So then there was box #2 still sitting in the garage. So I opened it, and it looked pretty good still in the grease. Like a kid on Christmas, I tore it apart and started cleaning it......

WOW!!!!

Classic did me a solid on this one. An all matching (except BLANK top cover) Factory 26 letter gun Everything else matches down to the EP'd gas tube and bolt & bolt carrier. Even the stock is stamped matching.. Perhaps someone can shed some light here. I am not exactly sure what I have but it is awesome. There are ZERO defects with this rifle. The shellac is peeling in a few places but it looks great!

Solid stock
Matching (except blank top cover
75% or better bluing
Mirror bore
No pitting or rust whatsoever.

Here are some pics. It is already completely cleaned up. (I added the sling)






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Old 07-10-2013, 6:09 PM
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Default got my hand picked sks today

i feel i got what i paid for and wasnt let down.its in good shape ,all matching numbers and no cracks. only wiped it down so far,will take it apart tomorrow to really clean her up!
only thing that didnt look normal is a silver nail looking thing down by the bayonet. is this factory? or a fix job?

but over all im pleased with what showed up to my door
sorry for the bad pics as this is one thing im not to good at,lol.


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Old 07-10-2013, 6:19 PM
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Great rifle... However the sling is for a later type... To adapt your sling loose the leather loop and metal lower loop. Loop the sling directly through the sling loop which is attached to the stock....
Thanks SVT, I figured the sling was wrong, just threw it on there for fun. What is the correct sling for this rifle?
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Old 07-10-2013, 6:46 PM
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only thing that didnt look normal is a silver nail looking thing down by the bayonet. is this factory? or a fix job?
The nail thing is part of the stock and is supposed to be there. It looks like you got a good one, grats!
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Thanks SVT, I figured the sling was wrong, just threw it on there for fun. What is the correct sling for this rifle?
Looks like a Chinese AK sling
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Old 07-10-2013, 7:49 PM
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so i totally took mine apart and its a score! the piston looks brand new and has matching numbers to the rest of the gun. the internals of my sks look like very few rounds ever went thru the gun. im very happy camper
no cracks in the stock only dents,the stock is off to the woodworker to get refinished and dents steamed out,its going to be pimp.


but this C&R crap is killing me,its like a drug i need more old *** guns!!!
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Old 07-10-2013, 8:04 PM
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Hotwls13- you might want to sweat the Cosmo out before trying to glue the wood, but that is too big a piece to willingly let go. The cosmo might be the only thing still holding that chunk on! Heck, I would even try to glue those little pieces under the handguard if they are salvageable. I don't know if some steam can help with that ding there though. You'll need to work out how to manage the bulge it left there somehow. Good luck!
So is the consensus that even with my stock issues and the wrong top plate It's still a score due to it being Russian?

I just want a shooter but this jacked up stock kinda has me bummed. I'm not sure how to repair it (other than using some wood glue and a clamp to hold the piece in place for a day). I think u may be right about the cosmoline holding it on.

My plan was to pull the gun apart Saturday and get the metal in mineral spirits and the stock into a black bag in the sun. I wonder if the small wood parts will survive the cosmoline removal process.
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Since what you want is a good shooter, I have little doubt that you will be happy with your rifle. Just give the metal a good cleaning with mineral spirits (and take your bolt apart and give it an extra good cleaning with pipe cleaners), sweat the Cosmo out, wipe the stock down with some mineral spirits after, glue those bits down, and give it a good massage with some Howard's and you'll be ready to rock. You can always decide later if you want to go further with the stock, but it won't be necessary. There is nothing wrong with it that will affect function.

One of mine had a stock so chewed up on the butt that I had to sand it down so I wouldn't get splinters in my cheek. I just decided to refinish it, but it would have been usable without doing so. It was missing a chunk out of the side about 1.5" by .5" I just worked some extra wax into that bit to keep it from splintering and it was fine. It is now one of my favorite rifles to shoot. She's not the prettiest but she shoots great! Your rifle is in better shape than mine was and will undoubtedly be as reliable.
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Just arrived. Second I've ordered from Classic. This one is in better condition than the last (8 months ago). And the last was terrific. Good batch!
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here is few pics..ill post some more when back in town.


METALLICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





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Old 07-10-2013, 9:24 PM
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That's friggin cool. If it weren't pretty solid that it came from over there, people would think that was a backwoods bubba carve. Does the carving below it seem cleaner in person? Can you tell what it says? That is ridiculously cool! Really nice figure in that wood, too!
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These the same ones they had a few months back?
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So is the extra $40 for matching numbers and hand select worth it?
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So is the extra $40 for matching numbers and hand select worth it?
It's a crap shoot on what you'll get with hand select on this latest batch. The early shipments were not screened as admitted by Classic and thus some have been RMA'd. What the replacements will look like, we'll have to wait and see. If Classic has actually started to properly handpick, then I would definitely go for that option. I sold off the 2 I got last week at cost as they did nothing to add to my current collection but have another one arriving on Friday so I have my fingers crossed.
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Cant really tell, there are maybe 4 or so trench arts on the rifles, maybe a few are non English. After cleaning I will try more. One looks like it says Yuri

All matching numbers , none handpicked. It will be awhile before cosmo cleaning.

I will strip them lay on top newspapers in sun hot day for few hours, wipe off with rag. Works great.
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I think going for the luck of the draw is half the fun, who knows what you could come out with? We just saw a Chinese rifle from Eastern Europe with an American heavy metal band name scribbled on it - that is far better than matching numbers!
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Cant really tell, there are maybe 4 or so trench arts on the rifles, maybe a few are non English. After cleaning I will try more. One looks like it says Yuri

All matching numbers , none handpicked. It will be awhile before cosmo cleaning.

I will strip them lay on top newspapers in sun hot day for few hours, wipe off with rag. Works great.
Did you pay for the matching numbers or just happen to get them?
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All 3 rifles matched #s . I cheap bstrd no pay hand pick. Me happy with conditions except my metallica stock has a few cracks I need to investigate further. 2nd look makes me think not a deal killer
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OK so it bothered me that I paid for handpick and got a stock with 2 broken pieces on it. Other than the broken pieces on the stock and the non-matching top plate, I'm happy with the rifle. I really didn't want to deal with an RMA and possible crap shoot at getting a worse rifle. I sent Classic an email explaining my concerns and I asked for a refund of the $20 handpick fee. I QUICKLY got an email from Classic, they apologized for missing the stock issue and quickly refunded me the $20.

It's only $20 but I don't feel like I was ripped for a handpick now.

So, that $20 will go towards some gorilla glue to fix the stock.

Wish me luck.
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METALLICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Well this is interesting. Metallica wasn't popular worldwidw untill the mid 80's on into the 90's.

If this is "trench art" where could this rifle had been used during that time period? Hmmm.. Maybe y the people packing them up for shipment to the US in the late 80's immediately before they were banned for import?
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Im not sure if its Yugoslavian or whatever but there is some foreign language scraped in also - There is another word under metallica but picture is terrible and I couldn't make it out
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Those definitely look different than that Chinese AK sling I saw on a rifle here. I decided to buy two just in case I need another SKS I've got that same Chinese accidentally for my Euro rifles. I recognized it right away.

Thanks for the heads up

Yup those green ones are Chinese
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Bobby, have you bought enough Chicoms to warrant getting the 10 pack the seller has? I like the ones with the spring keepers.
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So would these be considered "correct" slings for these Chicoms?
I have both the spring style clips as well as the leather strap versions.. All with markings (Chinese charatcters, 7.62 etc). All military and made for the sks. Quite different from the other countries' slings. Purchased around 1990.

Those on Yooper are identical to mine.
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Dan Eastvale,

You have your R&R history down.

Remember that Western music was slow to percolate into
other countries. Much of the stock art carvings that I saw
were carved in 1992-1994. The crack Albanian troops at the time
were mostly preoccupied with getting their cassette decks to work
in the field and carving up their rifles ... hence the time warp.
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Heeheehee

Yes, when I saw that on the stock of the Chinese sks from classic I thought .. wait a minute!

That spring clip sling was also used with the AK as well as the sks... Also according to Yooper

Notice the seventh picture down from the first link for the slings on ebay..

An sks type folding bayonet on a Chinese AK.. Only China had these.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/FREE-SHIPPING-Original-Chinese-SKS-Thick-Canvas-Web-Sling-Khaki-ON-CLEARANCE-/00/s/ODUxWDEyODA=/z/-LsAAOxy66pRus9A/$(KGrHqFHJEwFG41vB)u5BRus9!EVJw~~60_57.JPG?rt=nc

The semi auto version was for sale here in the 80's imported by Polytech
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Blah look at those Ugly Rifles. Those Russian letters really mess up the Serial Numbers hu?? Id say -$50 for every letter I see on those SKS heheh
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