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Old 06-15-2013, 8:15 AM
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Just spoke with Disneyland Park Customer Service. If you are a current CA CCW holder you MAY NOT utilize locker inside main gate for Firearm Check. If you are current LEO or Corrections you are only allowed with proper documentation.

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Anyone know how many lockers they have for that purpose?
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such a crock.... Im traveling down in LA LA land in couple months 3 day sat Disney land-- SO I either leave it in car safe or hotel safe- those options suckit

That locker policy is racist
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How would they know who puts what into the locker? Aren't these lockers accessable/available to all park visitors?
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I use the lockers every time I go. When at the bag screening just ask for a security escort to the security lockers. I usually have my ccw in my hand when I ask for the escort. My ccw is not on the rice paper it is a creditcard type.
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I believe they have 8 or 10 individual lockers. I have never seen more than 2 in use when I get there.
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I still don't understand whats wrong with the hotel safe... It's much safer then your car
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That locker policy is racist
Racist? How's that?

All this hand-wringing over the Disney thing has taken up at least three threads in recent memory. If you don't like it, don't go. Private property, their right to set the policy. So simple.
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How would they know who puts what into the locker? Aren't these lockers accessable/available to all park visitors?
No. The firearm lockers are at the security booth behind the wheel chair rental pick up. you can only get access to them with an escort. Like I said I use them every time I have gone. all you have to do is ask for an escort to take you to the security lockers. Usually there is a security guard right near the bag inspection area. Any of the uniformed Disney security guards can escort you to the lockers.

The sad truth is that most of the people you talk to in customer service have no clue that they have security lockers available. I have many friends and family that work at Disney Land. I was last there on the 8th of may with my wife and kids. The only thing that sucks is once you pick up your side arm they escort you back to the bag inspection line.
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Guess I was thinking of a different set of lockers that I saw. After further thought, I do believe that those are the lockers that I saw. Just after going through the ticket booths and going to the right, you can see them behind the gate (outside the park). So, I guess my question is. Do you have to declare what you put into the security lockers? I think it's a good idea that they are available for use.
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You fill out a form with make model and serial. Once copy goes to you the other is attached to the locker. You are the only one with a key so dont lose it. Once you pick up your gun they shread both copies of the form you fill out in front of you. The security lockers are not accessible to anyone but security and escorted guests. The way disney does it is way better then legoland. At legoland they want you to secure your firearm ib a single locker that the manager of security has.
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They will not let none Leo use the lockers, I've tried multiple times and always denied.

I just keep it in a hidden pocket in my backpack.
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I have never been asked if I was leo. I just ask for the escort and fillout the form. My riverside county ccw looks like a credit card and has all my info including picture on it.
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I still don't understand whats wrong with the hotel safe... It's much safer then your car
You're either new here or, unlike the vast majority of carriers, actually fathom the law of probability. Or you're not excessively paranoid. Has to be one of those.
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I use terms racist as partly racist. They are denying a legal citizen the same they offer some guy with a magic metal star on his chest. I know I train more then most officers with my pistol.

Leave at hotel? Whats thr point of a ltc if you dont carry in public? Yes I would say a hotel safe is much better then car.

Best is using the designated lockers at Disney land.

Im a bit confused. ..I read leo only , but scoutpup has used it and is not a leo?
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My daughter managed two Holiday Inn Expresses for a while. IF your hallway has CCTV, and it works, your hotel safe is a good place to leave valuables. The law of probability depends on known conditions.
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You're either new here or, unlike the vast majority of carriers, actually fathom the law of probability. Or you're not excessively paranoid. Has to be one of those.

Hmmmm, making friends I see?

I am a LTC carrier and understand probability and am not paranoid.

Do you buy life insurance, auto insurance, fire insurance?
The likelyhood of you needing to use any of those is verry slim but yet many of us purchase these coverages.
Does this make us paranoid?
Do we have a lack of understanding of probability?

We carry where ever we can because we do not know when we may need the protection. If we knew when we would need it we simply would avoid the situation in the first place.
If you knew when you would die, or have an auto acciden, or house fire you would simply take steps to avod those happenings and therefore have no need of insurance.
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That locker policy is racist
how is it prejudiced toward a particular race?

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I am partly joking. .lighten up francis' The other part of discrimination is letting leo safe lockers but the unwashed masses get a f off, your life is not as important.
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I am a LTC carrier and understand probability and am not paranoid.
It's quite clear you do not and are. First, if I have to explain why all those tired, old, nonsensical arguments don't apply in general and especially in this case than you're a lost cause. Second, we're not talking about "normal" circumstances. We're talking about Disneyland. Try and see beyond the gun nut bias ok?
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It's quite clear you do not and are. First, if I have to explain why all those tired, old, nonsensical arguments don't apply in general and especially in this case than you're a lost cause. Second, we're not talking about "normal" circumstances. We're talking about Disneyland. Try and see beyond the gun nut bias ok?
I am curious.

Is it the case that you hold the opinion that a weapon is not needed inside the park itself?

Is it the case that you hold the opinion that a weapon is not needed in the parking lot of the park?

( Just to restate, I am already on record as suggesting that if one does not like the rules a business might impose, one should choose to go elsewhere.

This thread began with a report on a poorly-understood policy of Disneyland regarding storage lockers inside the park for non-LEO LTC holders. )
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It's quite clear you do not and are. First, if I have to explain why all those tired, old, nonsensical arguments don't apply in general and especially in this case than you're a lost cause. Second, we're not talking about "normal" circumstances. We're talking about Disneyland. Try and see beyond the gun nut bias ok?

Okayyyy, now exactly who here is participating in personnal attacks? Oh yea that's right YOU ARE.
Your argument would hold more merit were you to use logic and reason and not resort to personnal attacks.

In my earlier post I though I laid out very logic arguments as to why people should be permitted to carry whereever and whenever they themselves feel the need and you so far have not even come close to refuting them.

If you recall my post was made in an attempt (ill fated attempt at that apparently) to address your attack on what seems to me to be ALL LTCers.
You tried to make it out that we are not a thinking group of individuals who would take into account 'probability' and 'paranoia' so I attempted to address that concern and I think I successfully accomplished my goal.
You personnal attack seems to be evidence of my success.

I think it was in poor taste and judgement on your part to come onto a firearms forum in the LTC section and then insult the LTCers without any attempt to back up your statement.

Oh, and who here is biased? You seem to have an anti-gun bias.
besides, aren't we all biased to some degree, I just happen to be biased to THE RIGHT.
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I am a member of a distinct minority here on CalGuns--I have guns and I'm licensed to carry, but I am somewhat left of the political center. Oksana, what's your real issue? Do you have a license to carry? It doesn't sound like it. Do you own any guns? I won't go so far as to tell you I think you should leave if you answer no to both questions--I've been told similar things for not being a single issue voter, and I disregard stuff like that--but really, why do you spend any time here? What's your objective? To be irritating at every opportunity?
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Not only do I own firearms but I'm authorized to carry them in places very few can. What is your point? That I should not be here because I'm not rabidly pro-gun to the hardcore level you and some others are?
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Not only do I own firearms but I'm authorized to carry them in places very few can. What is your point? That I should not be here because I'm not rabidly pro-gun to the hardcore level you and some others are?
As you can see above, my point was to ask about your objective in posting the kind of personalized statements you've made in this thread.
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...I'm not rabidly pro-gun to the hardcore level you and some others are
Good luck finding any statement of mine that indicates any rabidness on any issue, gun related or otherwise.
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such a crock.... Im traveling down in LA LA land in couple months 3 day sat Disney land-- SO I either leave it in car safe or hotel safe- those options suckit

That locker policy is racist


edit: I don't understand why or how people are taking that statement seriously.

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Worst thing they can do is ask you to leave as it is private property.
I have never found a need to carry in Disneyland or Disneyworld.
Go, enjoy the family time, rides, shows and have fun.
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Worst thing they can do is ask you to leave as it is private property.
I have never found a need to carry in Disneyland or Disneyworld.
Go, enjoy the family time, rides, shows and have fun.
While I completely understand what you are saying, I would just like to add that I've never felt the need to carry in an elementary school either but...
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While I completely understand what you are saying, I would just like to add that I've never felt the need to carry in an elementary school either but...
Or a movie theater.
Or a marathon.
Or at a college campus.
Or getting your hair done.
Or getting gas.
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Have any of you looked at the price of Admission? For a family of 4, you are paying over $500 +the cost of gas, food and a host of other things that suck your money once inside the park.

Stay home, buy a new gun, take the family shooting.
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Or a movie theater.
Or a marathon.
Or at a college campus.
Or getting your hair done.
Or getting gas.
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