Calguns.net  

Home My iTrader Join the NRA Donate to CGSSA Sponsors CGN Google Search
CA Semiauto Ban(AW)ID Flowchart CA Handgun Ban ID Flowchart CA Shotgun Ban ID Flowchart
Go Back   Calguns.net > POLITICS, LITIGATION AND ACTIVISM > California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #81  
Old 08-22-2013, 10:26 AM
zoglog's Avatar
zoglog zoglog is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Southbay
Posts: 1,010
iTrader: 8 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunwriter View Post
By now you all must know the new law signed by the Governor allows boys and girls in public schools to use any restroom or shower or locker they want, depending on how they "feel" about their sexuality...YOUR kids are affected but that is not the issue here.
Wow, way to downplay gender identity disorder. Ignorant comments like this is why gun rights advocates are never taken seriously.
__________________
More guns for followers of the FSM!
Reply With Quote
  #82  
Old 08-22-2013, 3:32 PM
someR1's Avatar
someR1 someR1 is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Hell
Posts: 2,736
iTrader: 14 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by perezjc2006 View Post
https://www.change.org/petitions/gov...to-gun-control we need to start sending letters and signed petitions to Jerry Brown
THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
__________________


"To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason
Reply With Quote
  #83  
Old 08-22-2013, 3:47 PM
someR1's Avatar
someR1 someR1 is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Hell
Posts: 2,736
iTrader: 14 / 100%
Default

START EMAILING THE GOVERNOR NOW ! : http://gov.ca.gov/m_contact.php
__________________


"To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason
Reply With Quote
  #84  
Old 08-22-2013, 4:15 PM
oakranch21 oakranch21 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Brea, CA.
Posts: 252
iTrader: 32 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zoglog View Post
Wow, way to downplay gender identity disorder. Ignorant comments like this is why gun rights advocates are never taken seriously.
All they would have to do is have a separate private stall for a shower and bathroom. (Like a handicap stall) Why does my daughter have to see a guy's junk at an early age because a guy feels odd with his own gender. What about her and the rest of her class? They don't matter? . . . It's an easy fix.

We need a part time legislature. The one we have now are just thinking junk up, like they have nothing else to do or they want to make a name for themselves.

Last edited by oakranch21; 08-22-2013 at 4:22 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #85  
Old 08-22-2013, 5:06 PM
zoglog's Avatar
zoglog zoglog is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Southbay
Posts: 1,010
iTrader: 8 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by oakranch21 View Post
All they would have to do is have a separate private stall for a shower and bathroom. (Like a handicap stall) Why does my daughter have to see a guy's junk at an early age because a guy feels odd with his own gender. What about her and the rest of her class? They don't matter? . . . It's an easy fix.

We need a part time legislature. The one we have now are just thinking junk up, like they have nothing else to do or they want to make a name for themselves.
I don't want to take this off the relevant discussion of the gun laws but that wasn't the point. Can we just leave it at that and get back on track ?
__________________
More guns for followers of the FSM!
Reply With Quote
  #86  
Old 08-22-2013, 5:25 PM
ShallNotInfringe ShallNotInfringe is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Maryland
Posts: 12
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Hi,

Wow! This thread looks like what happened in MD earlier this year...

Here's some basic questions from an out-of-stater soon to be a temporary resident...

When is your legislature in session? Thank God in MD they are only doing damage 3 months out of the year. Although they even got around to taxing the rain this year.

Who are your friendliest in the assembly/senate?

Did you try our trick, find out who your foe's donors are and call them to make sure they are aware of what policies they are supporting?

Is there anything I can do to help while I am out there this Fall? Fighting these gun grabbers is essential in whatever state I can. We CANNOT let them win.
Reply With Quote
  #87  
Old 08-23-2013, 2:46 PM
readysetgo's Avatar
readysetgo readysetgo is offline
Better be Ready!
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Ventura County
Posts: 4,790
iTrader: 28 / 100%
Default

SamsDX, I notice SB 475 (Leno) "Cow Palace Gun Show" isn't listed in OP.
Is there a reason? I'm pretty sure it's still very active (on the assy. floor, I think).

eta: Ah, maybe this from the OP?
Quote:
we need to focus our efforts on the most pressing issues.

Last edited by readysetgo; 08-23-2013 at 3:02 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #88  
Old 08-24-2013, 11:22 AM
jdbark1952's Avatar
jdbark1952 jdbark1952 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Porterville Calif.
Posts: 19
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShallNotInfringe View Post
Hi,

Wow! This thread looks like what happened in MD earlier this year...

Here's some basic questions from an out-of-stater soon to be a temporary resident...

When is your legislature in session?

Did you try our trick, find out who your foe's donors are and call them to make sure they are aware of what policies they are supporting?

Is there anything I can do to help while I am out there this Fall? Fighting these gun grabbers is essential in whatever state I can. We CANNOT let them win.
Our legislature is a full time legislative branch, they have almost all year to break things.

Finding out who the supporters are sounds like a great idea, unfortunately I think most of the supporters are bent the same way as the democrats are here.

What can you do? I wish I knew, wish I knew what we could do ourselves. Our state is so full of free loaders that want to have things given to them for free such as health care and food stamps, they are willing to go along with all the other socialistic things to make the individual a thing of the past, somebody to not want to be. Seems to only be getting worse to me.

We had a chance in the last election to pass a proposition that could have released the strangle hold the unions have on the states but it failed. that prop could have made the government free to do the right things.
Reply With Quote
  #89  
Old 08-26-2013, 9:35 PM
TuxedoOnATShirt TuxedoOnATShirt is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: San Diego
Posts: 31
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

what does it mean when the bills are going into the suspense file, and moving into the 3rd reading and such? that they're moving along on their way to passage?
Reply With Quote
  #90  
Old 08-28-2013, 6:09 AM
Gunwriter Gunwriter is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 36
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zoglog View Post
Wow, way to downplay gender identity disorder. Ignorant comments like this is why gun rights advocates are never taken seriously.
It's because of politically correct wimps and pansys like you that CA is losing its gun rights. You deserve it.
"Gender Disorder"...lololololol
Reply With Quote
  #91  
Old 08-28-2013, 6:31 AM
Bustercat's Avatar
Bustercat Bustercat is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 90
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunwriter View Post
It's because of politically correct wimps and pansys like you that CA is losing its gun rights. You deserve it.
"Gender Disorder"...lololololol
actually, so-called "political correctness" (how about just calling it civility and a "live and let live" attitude?) is exactly what will save the 2nd. The sooner people state-wide (and nation-wide) see gun ownership as something that crosses racial, gender, political, sexual, etc. lines, the sooner left wing urban voters (the ones who have kept this state blue year after year) will be willing to recognize it as a non-compromise legitimate American right that includes them, and not just a weird hobby practiced by "a handful of scary bigoted people they don't like and can't relate to out in the sticks."
Reply With Quote
  #92  
Old 09-03-2013, 8:04 PM
Mr.1904 Mr.1904 is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: 1904(SD)
Posts: 3,315
iTrader: 10 / 100%
Default

Can someone create a list of the 5 who were consistently voting no on these? They need support.
__________________
"Then there are sheepdogs. The sheepdogs are the bastions of safety. The sheepdog lives solely to protect the flock and confront the wolf. They live for the opportunity to be called to duty to protect the innocent. The sheepdog has fangs and the propensity for violence but hopes that he will not have to resort to it. However, he lives for that day when he will be able to use his warrior skills and mindset to keep the wolf from harming the sheep."
Reply With Quote
  #93  
Old 09-04-2013, 5:01 PM
SamsDX's Avatar
SamsDX SamsDX is offline
Signal Out of Banned
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Unincorporated South Orange County
Posts: 1,045
iTrader: 7 / 100%
Default

9/4 Update:
A whole boatload of bills move forward to full assembly and senate floor.

Most significant changes are probably in SB-53 - some of the new additions are downright oppressive.
__________________
NRA Benefactor Life Member, SAF Life Member, CCRKBA Life Member

Gavin Newsom is a lying, cheating slickster and will be the worst mistake California has ever made if he gets elected Governor. Hollywood movie producers look to him and his oleaginous persona as a model for the corrupt "bad guy" politician character. This guy is so greasy, he could lubricate an entire arsenal of AR-15s just by breathing on them.
Reply With Quote
  #94  
Old 09-04-2013, 5:54 PM
Blownmotor's Avatar
Blownmotor Blownmotor is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 523
iTrader: 20 / 95%
Default

Holy crap this is all bad. 396 pretty much turns everyone with pre-ban mags into criminals. 53 makes shooting near impossible since we're at their mercy trying to buy ammo. 500 turns the ten day to maybe you can pick up your gun in a few lifetimes from now.
Reply With Quote
  #95  
Old 09-04-2013, 5:55 PM
2nd4ever 2nd4ever is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 124
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Yep. The bills get worse each time they are go through either the assembly or senate. Text of revised SB-53. Buying ammo will become very difficult and expect CA prices to be far higher than any other state.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...=201320140SB53

How come this does not amount to regulating interstate commerce?
Reply With Quote
  #96  
Old 09-04-2013, 6:14 PM
SaltyDogUSMC SaltyDogUSMC is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 612
iTrader: 67 / 100%
Default

Fight til the end, then move back to a state that is still part of America.
Reply With Quote
  #97  
Old 09-04-2013, 6:15 PM
SaltyDogUSMC SaltyDogUSMC is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 612
iTrader: 67 / 100%
Default

I love little U Haul excursions to AZ and Vegas anyways...**** them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2nd4ever View Post
Yep. The bills get worse each time they are go through either the assembly or senate. Text of revised SB-53. Buying ammo will become very difficult and expect CA prices to be far higher than any other state.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...=201320140SB53

How come this does not amount to regulating interstate commerce?
Reply With Quote
  #98  
Old 09-04-2013, 6:26 PM
2nd4ever 2nd4ever is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 124
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Here's how the senate vote went down for SB 374:
05/29/13 (PASS) Senate Floor 23 15 1 Special Order SB374 Steinberg
Ayes: Beall, Block, Calderon, Corbett, De León, DeSaulnier, Evans, Hancock, Hernandez, Hill, Jackson, Lara, Leno, Lieu, Liu, Monning, Padilla, Pavley, Price, Steinberg, Torres, Wolk, Yee
Noes: Anderson, Berryhill, Cannella, Correa, Emmerson, Fuller, Gaines, Galgiani, Huff, Knight, Nielsen, Roth, Walters, Wright, Wyland
No Votes Recorded: Hueso


And the Assembly vote for SB 374:
08/30/13 (PASS) Asm Appropriations 11 6 0 Do pass.
Ayes: Bocanegra, Bradford, Ian Calderon, Campos, Gatto, Gomez, Hall, Holden, Pan, Quirk, Weber
Noes: Bigelow, Donnelly, Eggman, Harkey, Linder, Wagner
No Votes Recorded:


For SB 53:
08/30/13 (PASS) Asm Appropriations 11 6 0 Do pass as amended.
Ayes: Bocanegra, Bradford, Ian Calderon, Campos, Gatto, Gomez, Hall, Holden, Pan, Quirk, Weber
Noes: Bigelow, Donnelly, Eggman, Harkey, Linder, Wagner
No Votes Recorded:

07/02/13 (PASS) Asm Public Safety 5 2 0 Do pass and be re-referred to the Committee on Appropriations.
Ayes: Ammiano, Jones-Sawyer, Mitchell, Quirk, Skinner
Noes: Melendez, Waldron
No Votes Recorded:

05/29/13 (PASS) Senate Floor 23 15 1 Special Order SB53 De León
Ayes: Beall, Block, Calderon, Corbett, De León, DeSaulnier, Evans, Hancock, Hernandez, Hill, Hueso, Jackson, Lara, Leno, Lieu, Liu, Monning, Padilla, Pavley, Price, Steinberg, Wolk, Yee
Noes: Anderson, Berryhill, Cannella, Correa, Emmerson, Fuller, Gaines, Galgiani, Huff, Knight, Nielsen, Roth, Walters, Wright, Wyland
No Votes Recorded: Torres
Reply With Quote
  #99  
Old 09-05-2013, 12:23 AM
Lore Lore is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

I hate to sound like an optimist but for the moment the Democrats lack a supermajority in the assembly:

http://www.bizjournals.com/sacrament...rmajority.html

All this legislation needs to be voted on before the end of next week. September Friday the 13th.

http://assembly.ca.gov/legislativedeadlines#sep

Even though there are two special elections they won't start until Septmber 17th:

http://www.scpr.org/blogs/politics/2...assembly-seat/

Therefore the assembly does not have a supermajority which would negate the supermajority in the senate.

Although I wouldn't call Brown a friend of gunowners he's certainly more reasonable than the politicians pushing this legislation:

http://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/...es-4446908.php

There is a chance that Brown will veto these bills but we need to put the pressure on. He's also pragmatic as well and realizes that California's power in imposing draconan restrictions is limited if a California can simply go to a Gunshow in Nevada or Arizona.

I don't think the situation is an easy one but I do believe that we do develop enough support at a very minimum Brown may be inclined to listen.
Reply With Quote
  #100  
Old 09-05-2013, 1:27 AM
Librarian's Avatar
Librarian Librarian is offline
Super Moderator
CGN Contributor - Lifetime
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Concord
Posts: 32,803
iTrader: 4 / 100%
Blog Entries: 6
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TuxedoOnATShirt View Post
what does it mean when the bills are going into the suspense file, and moving into the 3rd reading and such? that they're moving along on their way to passage?
Suspense file is a holding area; early in a session, bills sometimes go there to wait for a budget to be passed before Appropriations will look at them. Sometimes they go there because Appropriations thinks they will cost too much; sometimes for other reasons. Bills can come out of suspense at any time before the last floor session of a legislative year; they just pick up where they left off and follow the process, if there still is time.

Bills that go to the floor ordinarily must be 'announced by name' three times to that house, before a vote on that bill can occur. That can be waived.

Except for the dates a bill must go to the Governor, all the legislative rules can be waived, I believe.
__________________
Calguns Wiki, Magazine Qs, Knife laws

Unless there is some way to amend a bill so you would support it,
the details do not matter until the Governor signs or allows the bill to become law.

Ask CA law questions in the How CA Laws Apply to/Affect Me Forum
- most questions that start 'Is it legal ...' go there.

Not a lawyer, just Some Guy On The Interwebs.


Reply With Quote
  #101  
Old 09-05-2013, 5:20 AM
dwightlooi dwightlooi is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 331
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Given that:-

(1) It is not illegal for Californians to buy ammo outside of California
(2) It is not illegal for Californians to bring ammo which they already own into California

Wouldn't it be perfectly legal to:-
  • Set up a transship service in AZ or NZ specifically to undermine the California Ammo purchase license and tax laws
  • The transship service is physically a house, apartment or storefront.
  • Californians can be a member of the service for free
  • Members order ammo online
  • The service accepts delivery of packages addressed to the name of any of it's members
  • Once it is received by the service, it is treated as owned property of the members
  • The service then re-ships the package to their member's California address for a service fee of $5 + shipping
Better to pay the service fee than to pay the enemies that run the state of CA.
Reply With Quote
  #102  
Old 09-05-2013, 6:21 AM
2meterB's Avatar
2meterB 2meterB is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Sac Area
Posts: 1,463
iTrader: 4 / 100%
Default

Maybe until they read your post and fix it ^
Reply With Quote
  #103  
Old 09-05-2013, 7:28 AM
Movin&Shakin's Avatar
Movin&Shakin Movin&Shakin is offline
Junior Member
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Orange County
Posts: 77
iTrader: 3 / 100%
Default

RE: AB711 being decided by Senator Galgiani AD5. Any Calguners who live in the following Counties/Cities have a bigger voice than anybody else as they are a direct constituent of Senator Galgiani and she will actually pay attention because the only thing that really matters to any elected official is getting re-elected. I don't know if she will be termed out soon, but I do know she will listen to her constituents. We should all contact her as urgently requested by NRA regarding this specific bill TODAY (Thursday 9/5/13), but those in these cities REALLY need to. Not doing so is actually irresponsible. Senate District 5 (major areas only listed)

Galt
Wiidbridge
Lockeford
Stockton
Farmington
Lathrop
Manteca
Riverbank
Salida
Modesto
Tracy

Here is a link to her district map: http://sdmg.senate.ca.gov/sites/sdmg.../a2011_SD5.pdf

Here is a link to the CAL-ERT: http://myemail.constantcontact.com/C...id=eCR9gUvPjfo
__________________
You may not like guns, and choose not to own one. That is your right. You might not believe in God. That is your choice. However, if someone breaks into your home the first two things you're going to do are: 1) Call someone with a gun. 2) Pray they get there in time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skU4X5LujXc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ExC7fE1LaY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuhKCiY-lu0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3vWsa4ags
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p63UWAhpviI
Reply With Quote
  #104  
Old 09-05-2013, 9:15 AM
skilletboy's Avatar
skilletboy skilletboy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,905
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zoglog View Post
Wow, way to downplay gender identity disorder. Ignorant comments like this is why gun rights advocates are never taken seriously.
Letting a child in elementary school tell adults what "gender" they are regardless of their biology or genes is truly the ignorant thing. The fact you can't understand that is what is wrong - not his comment.
__________________
Quote:
"If the American people come to believe that the government is no longer constrained by the law then they will conclude that neither are they." - Michael Cannon, Cato Inst. 2014

_________________________________________

Reply With Quote
  #105  
Old 09-05-2013, 11:21 AM
Johnny_Utah's Avatar
Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 559
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dwightlooi View Post
Given that:-

(1) It is not illegal for Californians to buy ammo outside of California
(2) It is not illegal for Californians to bring ammo which they already own into California

Wouldn't it be perfectly legal to:-
Wow, really? REALLY? You do realize that these are not private forums, and ANYONE can read what you just posted? While I am new to these forums, I read quite a bit before I posted anything. Apparently bills have been amended from people simply reading these forums. Best to stop giving them ideas until the bills are passed?
__________________

Last edited by Johnny_Utah; 09-05-2013 at 11:23 AM.. Reason: Info
Reply With Quote
  #106  
Old 09-05-2013, 12:38 PM
dwightlooi dwightlooi is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 331
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny_Utah View Post
Wow, really? REALLY? You do realize that these are not private forums, and ANYONE can read what you just posted? While I am new to these forums, I read quite a bit before I posted anything. Apparently bills have been amended from people simply reading these forums. Best to stop giving them ideas until the bills are passed?
I hope they do!

(1) Making it illegal to transport legal property across state lines would be a clear and unambiguous violation of Interstate Commerce.

(2) Making it illegal for state residents to make purchases outside the state would also be a clear and unambiguous violation of Interstate Commerce.

To close the aforementioned "loophole" by legislative act, will make the entire law invalid.
Reply With Quote
  #107  
Old 09-05-2013, 1:05 PM
2nd4ever 2nd4ever is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 124
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

I have some questions for clarification:
So a center fire semi auto rifle legally owned by an NV resident would be illegal for that resident to transport into CA by SB 374?
What about an NV resident who owns a handgun that is legal in NV but not on the CA roster?
The NV resident loses the right to bear arms during a temporary visit to CA?



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free
Reply With Quote
  #108  
Old 09-05-2013, 1:36 PM
chip3757 chip3757 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Riverside
Posts: 186
iTrader: 3 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2nd4ever View Post
I have some questions for clarification:
So a center fire semi auto rifle legally owned by an NV resident would be illegal for that resident to transport into CA by SB 374?
What about an NV resident who owns a handgun that is legal in NV but not on the CA roster?
The NV resident loses the right to bear arms during a temporary visit to CA?



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free
1. Lots of criteria need to be met regarding the rifle, check the AW flowchart. If SB 374 is passed the flowchart will need to be updated.

2. You can bring the gun but 11 + rd mags will need to be left in NV unless they are pinned "riveted" at 10.

3. Yep, pretty much... You leave your 2A rights at the border.
Reply With Quote
  #109  
Old 09-05-2013, 2:09 PM
mshill's Avatar
mshill mshill is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,350
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Totally misread a previous post.

Last edited by mshill; 09-05-2013 at 2:11 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #110  
Old 09-05-2013, 3:53 PM
dwightlooi dwightlooi is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 331
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chip3757 View Post
1. Lots of criteria need to be met regarding the rifle, check the AW flowchart. If SB 374 is passed the flowchart will need to be updated.

2. You can bring the gun but 11 + rd mags will need to be left in NV unless they are pinned "riveted" at 10.

3. Yep, pretty much... You leave your 2A rights at the border.
No, the rifle cannot be brought into CA after July 2015. Period.

It cannot be brought into CA, because whether it is an "Assault Weapon" if the magazine is removable with or without using a tool. It doesn't matter if the magazine hold just 3 rounds or is held in place by pins or screws. As long as you can undo those screws with any tool and remove the magazine without disassembling the action of the firearm, it is an assault weapon.

And if you bring a 11 round magazine it is technically a Class E Felony punishable by 1 year in prison.


This is an Assault Weapon.


This is also an Assault Weapon

Last edited by dwightlooi; 09-05-2013 at 4:01 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #111  
Old 09-05-2013, 4:24 PM
chip3757 chip3757 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Riverside
Posts: 186
iTrader: 3 / 100%
Default

He had three separate questions, the magazine comments referred to his question about bringing an off roster PISTOL into the state.
Reply With Quote
  #112  
Old 09-05-2013, 4:30 PM
chip3757 chip3757 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Riverside
Posts: 186
iTrader: 3 / 100%
Default

Also, 374 is not yet law and can still be amended for a few more days. Why are you providing advice regarding a bill that can still be changed. Once it is passed the flow chart will need to be updated. We will see what needs to be done to bring a rifle into California.

Last edited by chip3757; 09-05-2013 at 4:33 PM.. Reason: Will not ill
Reply With Quote
  #113  
Old 09-05-2013, 4:30 PM
Hoop's Avatar
Hoop Hoop is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Auburn
Posts: 11,456
iTrader: 66 / 100%
Default

So now the deadline is 2015 rather than 2014 for SB374?
Reply With Quote
  #114  
Old 09-05-2013, 5:24 PM
SemperFi1775's Avatar
SemperFi1775 SemperFi1775 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 686
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoop View Post
So now the deadline is 2015 rather than 2014 for SB374?
there are no changes to sb374's deadlines... it's actually 12/31/13 as the last day to legally take possession of an aw, and 6/30/15 to register a legally possessed aw if this bill passed....
__________________
"What the hell happened to land of the free and home of the brave???"

"I want the truth! You can't handle the truth!!!" A Few Good Men
Reply With Quote
  #115  
Old 09-05-2013, 6:01 PM
2nd4ever 2nd4ever is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 124
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

So let me get this straight ... As a Nevada resident I am legally allowed to drive my car to visit CA. However, if I want to bear arms for the defense of my kids, family and myself while on vacation in CA, I cannot bring my own handgun since it is not on the CA roster. That forces me to buy one that is compliant, or give up my 2A right to bear arms.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free
Reply With Quote
  #116  
Old 09-05-2013, 6:04 PM
SaltyDogUSMC SaltyDogUSMC is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 612
iTrader: 67 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zoglog View Post
Wow, way to downplay gender identity disorder. Ignorant comments like this is why gun rights advocates are never taken seriously.
Stop worrying about image and focus on substance. Non one gives a flying **** about gender identity disorder in here. We are fighting for real rights, not manufactured new age drivel.
Reply With Quote
  #117  
Old 09-05-2013, 6:12 PM
SaltyDogUSMC SaltyDogUSMC is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 612
iTrader: 67 / 100%
Default

So which bills passed today?
Reply With Quote
  #118  
Old 09-05-2013, 7:12 PM
2nd4ever 2nd4ever is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 124
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

SB 53 was re-read and amended: If you are a registered AW owner, you are on the PAP list and may not purchase ammo.
Thus, if you own a BB equipped Semi auto firearm, as of the enactment of SB-53 and registration of your firearm you are put on the list.
In addition, the possibility of an Internet purchase of ammo through an FFL is taken out.

Furthermore, in order to purchase ammo, fingerprinting, ID check, physical characteristics and any other data about you are recorded. Every purchase is recorded.

It's over folks. Buying ammo is going to get very very painful. And if you have a registered AW, destroy it, unregister it or sell it otherwise you can't buy ammo for any of your other firearms.

SB 374 was re-read and tightened up some more. The language around folding stock etc., etc is gone.
The description includes every type of centerfire semi auto now.

Maybe we should get into Airsoft.
Reply With Quote
  #119  
Old 09-05-2013, 7:40 PM
SaltyDogUSMC SaltyDogUSMC is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 612
iTrader: 67 / 100%
Default

And ours cars can't drive to another state now?

And who exactly is going to police these new restrictions? Our state is nearly bankrupt and every state government agency has been stripped to the bone.

As for voluntary re-registration of our rifles, we'll see how many comply. As I've said all along...its unenforceable.
Reply With Quote
  #120  
Old 09-05-2013, 7:54 PM
RRangel RRangel is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,113
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2nd4ever View Post
So let me get this straight ... As a Nevada resident I am legally allowed to drive my car to visit CA. However, if I want to bear arms for the defense of my kids, family and myself while on vacation in CA, I cannot bring my own handgun since it is not on the CA roster. That forces me to buy one that is compliant, or give up my 2A right to bear arms.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free
A "handgun importer," usually a new resident, has 60 days to register their handgun when coming into the state. Please don't hijack this post. That goes especially when you post untrue statements about current bills.
__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 4:18 AM.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Proudly hosted by GeoVario the Premier 2A host.
Calguns.net, the 'Calguns' name and all associated variants and logos are ® Trademark and © Copyright 2002-2016, Calguns.net an Incorporated Company All Rights Reserved.