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Old 12-05-2007, 7:39 PM
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Who has the best price on brass. Grafs is $42 for $100 at dealer cost. Anyone cheaper?
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I'm assuming this is for .308 Winchester. That's pretty much the cheapest. It actually hasn't gone up that much. I think it was $35 per 100 a couple years ago.
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Who has the best price on brass. Grafs is $42 for $100 at dealer cost. Anyone cheaper?
that is like the cheapest i've seen. i would just order it from them.
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I'm going to get 500 rounds right after christmas.
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500 pieces? dam, that is alot of brass. break me off 50 of them if you can. i'm on a tight *** budget.
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I just placed an order from Grafs that included eight 100ct boxes of Lapua .223 Match brass.
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you guys are both lucky to have unlimited gun funds.

jonathan, you should be getting your scope today.
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you guys are both lucky to have unlimited gun funds.

jonathan, you should be getting your scope today.
Your gun funds were pretty darn unlimted in 2007 too!
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500 pieces? dam, that is alot of brass. break me off 50 of them if you can. i'm on a tight *** budget.
I hate trimming brass so I figure 500 should get me by for a while
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I hate trimming brass so I figure 500 should get me by for a while
500 brass.. 10 reloads a piece.. you're good for 5000/ the life of your barrel! Calculate that out and you will have spent probably about $1,750 in reloading components!
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I have about 800 rounds of LC brass I need to sell. That should help toward the Lapua.
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I have about 800 rounds of LC brass I need to sell. That should help toward the Lapua.
.308 LC Match brass?
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No, just regular. I was going to load it for my M14 but it is actually cheaper for me to go to Ammo bros and get there reloads.
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500 brass.. 10 reloads a piece.. you're good for 5000/ the life of your barrel! Calculate that out and you will have spent probably about $1,750 in reloading components!
i learned something a few days ago at Randy's place. the life of the barrel is actually the wear on the throat. all you have to do it rethread and re-ream the barrel, and wallah good as new again. the end result would be a shortened barrel, about 1/2-1 inch. he said it'll take alot more than several thousand rounds to wear out the rifling.
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i learned something a few days ago at Randy's place. the life of the barrel is actually the wear on the throat. all you have to do it rethread and re-ream the barrel, and wallah good as new again. the end result would be a shortened barrel, about 1/2-1 inch. he said it'll take alot more than several thousand rounds to wear out the rifling.
You still have MUCH to learn...
This is called "setting back" a barrel.
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i learned something a few days ago at Randy's place. the life of the barrel is actually the wear on the throat. all you have to do it rethread and re-ream the barrel, and wallah good as new again. the end result would be a shortened barrel, about 1/2-1 inch. he said it'll take alot more than several thousand rounds to wear out the rifling.
Barrel setback has been a common practice for competition shooters. The cost savings may not be much, though, and often, it is simply worth buying a new barrel.

6.5x284 shooters probably benefit the most from barrel setback since they only get 1000 'usable' rounds on the average barrel.

More often that not, the load will have to be redeveloped since there's a change in muzzle velocity and barrel harmonics.

Also, often a gunsmith will recommend cutting off an inch from the muzzle end and recrowing because the diameter of the muzzle end will also open up as the barrel life increases.
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Barrel The cost savings may not be much, though, and often, it is simply worth buying a new barrel.
If you are doing it yourself, the cost savings is significant.
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If you are doing it yourself, the cost savings is significant.

that is what i'm talking about. i'll be taking machining classes in a few weeks. i'll be starting my new path in this long journey. there goes my saturdays for the next year.
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that is what i'm talking about. i'll be taking machining classes in a few weeks. i'll be starting my new path in this long journey. there goes my saturdays for the next year.
"Two semesters" is more pallatable than "one year" Plus when you say semesters, it implies some free saturdays in between!
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i'll be taking machining classes in a few weeks.
Where at?

The Venice High machine shop class is starting back up on monday nights 6pm to 9pm.
Anyone in the area wanting to use a machine shop should consider this class.
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The Venice High machine shop class is starting back up on monday nights 6pm to 9pm.
Anyone in the area wanting to use a machine shop should consider this class.

Los Angeles Valley College. It's closer to my house. It's a Saturday 8-2:20 classes. There goes my shooting, but hey I got to do what I got to do. Better than going to Colorado for 14 months!
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Los Angeles Valley College. It's closer to my house. It's a Saturday 8-2:20 classes. There goes my shooting, but hey I got to do what I got to do. Better than going to Colorado for 14 months!
Dang! I wish I lived closer! Have fun and learn a lot. I'll even have you chamber a barrel for me for practice.
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Dang! I wish I lived closer! Have fun and learn a lot. I'll even have you chamber a barrel for me for practice.
that'll be awhile. i will be buying a lathe and mill within a few months though. i figure if i have one in my garage, i can learn how to do things alot faster than waiting to use the school's or a buddy's.

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i will be buying a lathe and mill within a few months though.
You know that the mill and lathe are the cheap part right?
You will spend more on the tooling too.
Don't forget the surface grinder and EDM.
You will be wanting those too.

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You know that the mill and lathe are the cheap part right?
You will spend more on the tooling too.
Don't forget the surface grinder and EDM.
You will be wanting those too.

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ya i know. i hope to make most of my tools myself expect the custom reamers and stuff. those i will buy for sure.

i plan on spending a few thousand dollars. i'll just go get a dba with the city and start writing equipment off on my tax returns.
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ya i know. i hope to make most of my tools myself expect the custom reamers and stuff. those i will buy for sure.

i plan on spending a few thousand dollars. i'll just go get a dba with the city and start writing equipment off on my tax returns.
Budget $20,000 for good machines and tooling to start.
Don't be tempted by smaller/lesser quality machines.
Better to buy good used 80's machines than new imports.
As with gun safes, buy bigger and heavier than you ever expect to need.
One of the best measures of a machine's initial quality is the weight.
Don't buy a lathe weighing much less than 2000lbs.
Mills will all be in the 2300-3000lb range.

They give a 100% write-off on equipment purchased in the first year of your DBA so wait until next year to start and then get all the big stuff within a year so you don't have to put it on a depreciation schedule.
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Budget $20,000 for good machines and tooling to start.
Don't be tempted by smaller/lesser quality machines.
Better to buy good used 80's machines than new imports.
As with gun safes, buy bigger and heavier than you ever expect to need.
One of the best measures of a machine's initial quality is the weight.
Don't buy a lathe weighing much less than 2000lbs.
Mills will all be in the 2300-3000lb range.

They give a 100% write-off on equipment purchased in the first year of your DBA so wait until next year to start and then get all the big stuff within a year so you don't have to put it on a depreciation schedule.
i remember i did the same with my current business. your allowed to write off all equipment, furniture related business on your first year of business. i will definitely write it all off! you were also allowed to write certain vehicle off too if they weighed over a certain weight, but i think that loophole is gone now.

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500 brass.. 10 reloads a piece.. you're good for 5000/ the life of your barrel! Calculate that out and you will have spent probably about $1,750 in reloading components!

You think he is going to get 10 reloads without trimming?
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It was just a random calculation having nothing to do with trimming Every thread in this section always gets off topic!
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Every thread in this section always gets off topic!
Not just this section.
Try the whole damn board...
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I think I'll order 300 rounds to start loading for class. Just gotta find some IMR4895 because I am going to switch back to reduce the amount of powder I use.

Anyone need some RL15? I also have 2 lds of H335 I was using in 223. PM me I'll give you prices tonight. I also have about 700 rounds of unfired LC brass (non match). I'll ship that but not the powder.
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I think I'll order 300 rounds to start loading for class. Just gotta find some IMR4895 because I am going to switch back to reduce the amount of powder I use.

Anyone need some RL15? I also have 2 lds of H335 I was using in 223. PM me I'll give you prices tonight. I also have about 700 rounds of unfired LC brass (non match). I'll ship that but not the powder.

i'm set i got 6 pounds of rl15 sitting at home.
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Dude.. you got a wall of powder
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Dude.. you got a wall of powder
i got 8lbs of varget that your sitting on for me, and another 8lbs of 4064 so i'm pretty good on powder. what i wish i had more of is bullets.
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