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Old 06-08-2013, 12:31 PM
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Default Can you Duracoat/Ceracoat anodized Aluminum?

I have a buddy with an aluminum receiver for a 10-22 that is anodized blue and he wants to change the color to flat black. If you prep the receiver (sand blast it) can it be Duracoated or Ceracoated? Does anyone know which brand is better? I have done a lot of searching on line and cannot find a good recommendation.
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Cerakote and yes you can. Just make sure you clean it well and don't touch the bare metal with your hands.

Or he can send it to me and I will do it.
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Cerakote is better. I have also heard that anodizing is a good cerakote base.

Prep is everything.
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sure can, I do it on the stuff I anodize, gives you a 'second' layer of protection, plus it makes it easier to match with other items
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sand blast and clean it and your good to go, cerakote is a harder finish than dura coat, i have 2 dura coated rifles and they are holding up well, but i'm not rough with them.
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Thanks for the replies everyone, VERY helpful! I hear you on the prep, I know that the object has to be spotless and free of any traces of oil, etc. As far as sandblasting goes, I assume you blast just enough to rough it up, and then clean it, right?
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You use a rough media for cerakote to adhere well. The experts will chime in soon though
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Sand blasting is for adhesion. Soak in acetone bake out as per instructions. Then let cool, coat, and bake. I've done quite a bit of Cerokote a little goes a long way.

As with any paint or coating prep work is key. the spraying and baking is easy it the prep with keeping it clean that is critical
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OK, this is my last stupid question: Does anyone use the kitchen stove to dry parts or are there chemical contaminants to worry about? I would like to do some Cerakoting but don't have the money or space for an "industrial" oven. I did powder coat a battery hold down for my truck once using a Craftsman powder coating sprayer and baked it in my kitchen oven, then I was told that is a no-no.
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I was undecided on doing a Cerakote or just anodizing a couple lowers, and googled this just the other day. Glad to see good info here.

And as far as the home oven... I had a few buddies who got into powder coating small auto parts and such. One of the wives threatened to bring an end to his days if he EVER put another carb into the dishwasher or used the oven to bake parts again. So he watched the neighborhood for a kitchen remodel and grabbed an older oven from the curb. Wired it up in the back yard and had a great parts oven for almost no cost.
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...So he watched the neighborhood for a kitchen remodel and grabbed an older oven from the curb. Wired it up in the back yard and had a great parts oven for almost no cost.
That is an awesome idea, but my wife is much pickier. There is no way she would go for an oven in the yard. The garage is "my" area of the house, but there is no room in there right now. I was more concerned about any possible health issue if you use the kitchen oven. I can get away with using that when she is not here
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Card board box and a $9 hot plate from walmart
Run it on high and keep your part away from the plate. it will generate about 220 degrees F two hour cure. works like a champ.
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I use a big toaster oven. Found it here for pretty cheap:
http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden...5/product.html

It's not big enough to do a barrel with, but most other parts will fit without too much difficulty.
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Great idea. I was going to recommend a solar oven in the back yard, but this would be even better. The great part is that you can make the oven to fit whatever parts you want to cure. So a couple long pieces of cardboard would work well for barrels, etc. Line it with foil and you're good to go.

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Great ideas guys! Thanks again!
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Card board box and a $9 hot plate from walmart
Run it on high and keep your part away from the plate. it will generate about 220 degrees F two hour cure. works like a champ.
Great idea....that's thinking outside of the box!! Appreciate the experience you have and willingness to share with us.
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There's a big stink with off-gassing and I would not want to use same oven used to prep food. I converted an old toaster oven as well. It sits vertically with wire rack screwed into the inside top. Parts are hung inside using galvanized wire. The timer knob is disabled, and hole added in top for harbor freight tools digital probe thermometer.
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Theres no reason to line with foil either. the box will never get hot enough to present a problem. keep an eye on the heat source and monitor the temp and you'll be fine.

In reality any container large enough to hold your parts will do. old cabinets, old electrical panel, one of those cheep wall mart or Big five $99 gun cabinets.

a old household ove would work too but just be sure it's no gas fired. Natural gas burns very wet and can contaminate your finish. electric ovens are the way to go.

On my set up i have th ehot plate in the bottom of the box cranked full on and no parts closer then a foot to the hot plate temp at the lowest part of the box is 275˚f temp at the top is 225˚f
let is bake for two hours and you're good.
Do not touch th eparts while they are hot. The finish is still soft. My dip**** brother dropped his shotgun receiver on the bench and put a nice rub mark in the finish
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Foil is hippie mode, for a solar oven... Cook your ribs and coat your parts at the same time.. ;-)
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Thanks a LOT tpuig. Now I am hungry.

BTW I posted the same question on Sniper's Hide (I do that a lot to get as much input as possible) and someone that does the Cerakote professionally posted this link:

Cerakote Taber Abrasion

Pretty cool.
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Does anyone know how Cerakote and Duracoat compare as far as difficulty of application?
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