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Where did you read/hear that? Everything I have read so far points to free to play online with the ps4.
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well Sony raped Microsoft. watch the brutal attack here.

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Ahh, I'll be damned. Didn't catch that last line about multiplayer requiring PS+.

Although to be honest, it's more of a benefit really. Less likely to encounter morons online and $5 a month isn't a big deal(it's already less than half the base price of a movie ticket that only gets you a couple hours of non-interactive entertainment). Assuming that sony has actually decided to implement an online multiplayer network that's worth a crap.

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Microsuk is at it again. Effe them and their stupid new console.

Will not buy.
haha, they do.. they are trying to be the new apple..
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How can I be a fanboy when I am buying both consoles talk about projecting merc.
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How can I be a fanboy when I am buying both consoles talk about projecting merc.
I didn't state that it was specifically about these consoles, for all I know you might be one of those people still butthurt over sony removing the ability to install a linux distro on the ps3.. But claiming that they're going to do something "shady" when they've publicly announced the exact opposite... kinda dumb.
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I just don't have the words, way to take a friendly debate and put a crappy negative context onto the whole thing. You win the troll of the year award.
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well Sony raped Microsoft. watch the brutal attack here.

- Sold.

I can't say the same for X-Bone... GameStop employees that keep-up are telling people they know to run from M$'s next console... as ONE might need pepper-spray to prevent rape.

I can predict M$'s next flop, let's call it the "Vista" or "Win8(.0)" of consoles even before release, and when the no-lube-cornholing gets too uncomfortable, M$ will bend, like Apple did with DRM Music.
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http://www.xboxdone.com/
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PC FTW....

ok got that out of the way... looks like sony may be winning it for me this time around
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I am a bit disappointed with both. I remember when 360 and ps3 came out, it was like, i have to have one of those. Right now it isnt like that with these two.... If they released a new Ace Combat for the ps4 i would be all over it.

But the old school style Ace Combat gameplay. Not that crap Ace Combat Assault Horizon they released, that was an insult and a spit in the face
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Microsoft has been losing touch with reality for quite awhile and now with the new console it just proves that. I was ready to go with the new XBox until all the info started coming out.

There are numerous things I don't like and having to have the stupid Kinect camera on no matter what is just another dumb move. Kinect IMO is a POS anyway and I never use it.

That and I'll save 100.00 by going with a PS4. I am willing to bet that MS may see the writing on the wall and drastically change things but that's doubtful since they seem to have lost touch with what consumers want.
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PC FTW....

ok got that out of the way... looks like sony may be winning it for me this time around
The problem with Sony is that THEY want you to buy THEIR proprietary memory, which is almost as bad as M$'s issues. Think BetaMax, Memory stick, Pro Duo, M2, PSVita, I mean PSrape (@ $99 retail for a 32GB card). I will never buy another Sony-memory-accepting-Camera...

I am not usually an early-adopter, I usually wait for <$200 range to be financially-feasible, maybe I'll wait for a used one, and to see if the PS4 has any issues like the 1st gen 360's had with heating up, and bad solder...
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Where did you read/hear that? Everything I have read so far points to free to play online with the ps4.
Ive read it too. I thought they already implemented it though...lol
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I will buy both systems when they release, as always. However, so far only XBoxOne has exclusive titles I am definitely gonna have to buy day 1 (Dead Rising 3 and Killer Instinct). The PS4 list of initial games doesn't have any must buy games for me yet. However, I know they'll have a God of War variant at some point.
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Ahh, I'll be damned. Didn't catch that last line about multiplayer requiring PS+.

Although to be honest, it's more of a benefit really. Less likely to encounter morons online and $5 a month isn't a big deal(it's already less than half the base price of a movie ticket that only gets you a couple hours of non-interactive entertainment). Assuming that sony has actually decided to implement an online multiplayer network that's worth a crap.

Still not the same as MS telling you to go **** yourself with DRM.
It costs money right now to play multiplayer on xbox live and that doesn't stop the morons...
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Anyone who buys the new Xbox is an idiot. They feel stupid for badmouthing sony for years and now realize the ps4 is the only good option. The new xbox is going to fail so hard.
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True, I forgot that they just save up their allowance for cards at toys r us.
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And perhaps that's what XBox is counting on: Mom and Dad buying Jr an XBox One for Christmas and not paying attention to the constant hookup things, because they're just unaware. Face it, we've never had a system that required these types of things before and includes a CAMERA that can constantly be on and could possibly film you without your knowledge.

What's the over/under on the date a "Nude Girls on Kinect" site goes up for XboxOne?
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Anyone who buys the new Xbox is an idiot. They feel stupid for badmouthing sony for years and now realize the ps4 is the only good option. The new xbox is going to fail so hard.
I don't think so... When they see that sales of the xBone are almost non-existent compared to the PS4, they will either jump on the gravy-train, or drop out of the game market (or like M$ did last time, suck up the losses, and drop the NEW improved xBone2 with function over features, or BOTH [7 vs Vista ]).

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What's the over/under on the date a "Nude Girls on Kinect" site goes up for xBone?
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Screw xbox. I love my 360, but I am not liking this new system. I am leaning toward ps4, but I am going to wait it out a bit.
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Xbox One will sell very well. People will buy products no matter how many restrictions you put in front of them.

This is a system that will have 10 years to convince us consumers it belongs in our homes. Peoples perspective and tastes will change over time.
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My 360 is on its last legs. Luckily, it's 8 years old. Regardless of privacy concerns, I'm not going to spend $600 on a gaming console I'll use a few hours a week. Figure the PS3 will drop in price when the 4 comes out, pick up a new one of those and try out all the PS exclusives I've never tried before.
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/...ource=facebook


just watch both videos......

I sit here and wonder, what made Microsoft think this was a good idea? They got so greedy and controlling that they are doing all these restrictions and other BS stuff.

I hope fellow gamers stay strong and refuse to buy "the one". These are dark days coming, and if Microsoft can get away with this, soon, everyone will. We gotta hit them where it hurts.

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So, to the current xbox owners, do you not leave your system hooked up to the network all the time anyways?

I do, and I don't feel this is an issue.

I have no issue with the camera and the mic.

You want to see a big guy in his undies watching tv?...go for it
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So, to the current xbox owners, do you not leave your system hooked up to the network all the time anyways?

I do, and I don't feel this is an issue.

I have no issue with the camera and the mic.

You want to see a big guy in his undies watching tv?...go for it
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I can say this for sure, people really hate the Xbox One, I mean a lot.

They really screwed up on this one, Sony has always been better at marketing there product but Microsoft really made it easy for them this time.

I watched both of the E3 events in full, really the games looked exactly on par with each other on both systems and that cracks me up because everyone is so offended with the DRM stuff that they are overlooking the Xbox One is going to have great looking games and that is what matters when you get down to it.

The things that people really hate the xbox one for don't effect me and Halo and Gears are some of my favorite franchises of all time so I am gonna get an Xbox One for those games alone.

A lot of this stuff is really being blown out of proportion as well. Most players are online all the time anyway and you can shut the camera off so that to me is a non issue.

All the DRM and disk stuff doesn't effect me either but it is still pretty offensive so I can see why people are pissed about that.

What really makes me mad is shoving Kinect down my throat, but no one really talks about that.
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PS4 hands down. Not a single thing to dislike about the PS4 meanwhile several things to dislike about the Xbox one. Easy choice.

Here's a funny comment from youtube.

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Yeah, I work in the video game business and at E3, I must say the more I see there, the more I am leaning towards the PS. It not only has a faster graphics processor, but it doesn't require to be connected to the internet full time, doesn't have a microphone and camera that stays on when off. If anything the Xbox 1 seems to be promoting more of the big brother approach.

I personally don't leave my systems connected to the internet. Heck, most of the time my consoles are off. Hell, since console exclusives are for the most part dead aside from maybe one or two titles max - I personally do a lot more gaming on my computer than my consoles. Not only does my computer perform leagues ahead of my consoles, the graphic quality and processing speed is impossible for such an outdated system to compete against. My computer has the specs to easily handle any video game release for the next 3 years, running of max graphical and performance settings.
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Xbox One will sell very well. People will buy products no matter how many restrictions you put in front of them.

This is a system that will have 10 years to convince us consumers it belongs in our homes. Peoples perspective and tastes will change over time.
My thoughts exactly. While Sony is flaunting they've won the video gaming console market, Microsoft has already moved on. With the One (or XBone, as you haters call it), Microsoft's intent was to do more than gaming. By the time Sony sees this, they will have been left far behind. Right now, people are more demanding and you can't fill just one niche anymore.

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My thoughts exactly. While Sony is flaunting they've won the video gaming console market, Microsoft has already moved on. With the One (or XBone, as you haters call it), Microsoft's intent was to do more than gaming. By the time Sony sees this, they will have been left far behind. Right now, people are more demanding and you can't fill just one niche anymore.

People will buy it not for gaming, but for all the other stuff it does.
Anyone that was born in the 80's should have enough know how to design a computer home system that will be much more robust, better performing, and cheaper than any console home system.

Microsoft I feel is targeting a market that has little to no technological bearing. The people that are technologically savvy questions why you are paying for services that are already free on the internet? Heck, I don't even have TV service as internet streams don't require to set a DVR record time and you watch it when it is convenient for you and for FREE. Movies? Letmewatchthis.com.
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Say what you will about the DRM policy on the xbox one, but once again, MS is presenting a well thought out, unified idea for what their console is supposed to do, as opposed to sony, which seems, yet again to have gone, "our console needs "x" amount of features, because the competition has "x" amount, with not much real thought or focus or honing of those features.

I mean, I watched the PSn features vid and all I really saw, besides the video sharing, is the fact that after 8 years, PSn is finally getting unified LIVE features.

This is not a rip on Sony per se, but just the simple fact that both companies have had very different ideas on how to approach their console. Sony was much more comfortable with getting the console out as is and then refining things later where as MS had a unified idea that they worked towards perfecting over the console life cycle.

Now, you may not be happy with the DRM on the xbox one. I don't like certain aspects of it. However, if it works as is being indicated, it could be a pretty amazing experience. being able to share games with 10 other people in your "group" is pretty awesome. Have a buddy with a game you want to try, it's in the cloud and bam, you start it up on your console. Have a game you want to play at a buddies house? It's in the cloud. Go to their house and start it up.

Buy one game, and play it on any xbox one you have. That means you can play it on your xbox one and your kids can play it on theirs, if they have one. All your games preloaded and updated means you can hot swap on the fly if you want to change games. No more swapping discs.

All that sounds fine with me.

There have also been more reports as developers have been talking about the xbox one, of how the cloud makes a difference for them in their games. The titan fall devs, for example, are offloading physics calculations and preventing things like PvP latency using the cloud. As devs get used to programming this way, it could free up more and more of the actual on board processor the xbox one has for the tasks the console actually needs to do. So in terms of raw processing power, the difference between the two consoles may not end up being that much, taking the cloud into account.

Finally, when it comes to kinect, say what you will about it, but the way the features are integrated this time around, it is pretty impressive. The voice control, the swapping between apps, skype, games, tv, etc, all on they fly, that's nothing to sneeze at. That is a real feature set that the PS4 is less strong with. Yes, kinect is packed in and mandatory, but that also means it will be supported by all devs for all games.

How many games do you think the PS4 camera is going to support in the end, since people have to buy it? You may not want it, and that is fine, but it is the difference between the camera being a peripheral (and probably not generally supported) and kinect actually being a feature of the xbox one console.

I mean look at Ryse. You can play the game the traditional way with a controller. However, if you want, you can issue voice commands to your troops using the kinect. Direct archers, or raise shields, or whatever. That makes for a game experience with more immersion and that is only because kinect is there so all devs can depend no being able to support it because every one has it. Who's going to bother adding in camera support on Sony's side of things, if 1/3 or 1/2 the people have a camera?

That has always been the problem with peripherals.

I wouldn't knock anyone picking a PS4 over and Xbox One. Sony has made a very viable console. The fact that the price point is $100 less than the Xbox one, I think is the biggest point in favor of it. It also has more raw power with regards to the specs. However, to dismiss the xbox one feature set out of hand, like MS some how screwed things up instead of sat down to really decide what they want the console to be able to do, is just silly.

That's not to say gamers won't reject MS's vision and go with the PS4 instead, but it's not like MS has come out with some Pile of a console.

It's very well thought out, and at least from what I saw of both E3 conferences, I don't see any difference in graphical capabilities in the games (which may come later I admit), so I'm not sure how much the spec differences really make at launch time. Features-wise, and if we're being honest, exclusive games-wise and new IPs-wise, the Xbox is the stronger of the two consoles. Value-wise, for what you get with the $100 less buy in price, the Ps4 is the stronger of the two consoles.

The interesting thing, come November, is to see if people are going to be willing to pay the extra money to get what MS is offering in terms of features on the Xbox One.

I know for me, all things being equal, if there was one thing that made me pick one over the other it would be Titan Fall. That game... that's the game I want for next gen. I wish it were a launch game. But there's no way I'm passing on that game. I will have an xbox one because of it. Out of everything I saw in both E3 conferences, that was the hands down definition of what I want next gen to look like.

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Anyone that was born in the 80's should have enough know how to design a computer home system that will be much more robust, better performing, and cheaper than any console home system.

Microsoft I feel is targeting a market that has little to no technological bearing. The people that are technologically savvy questions why you are paying for services that are already free on the internet? Heck, I don't even have TV service as internet streams don't require to set a DVR record time and you watch it when it is convenient for you and for FREE. Movies? Letmewatchthis.com.
I disagree there is no way you can build a rig that would compete with the
PS4 for $400, not with a single high end graphics card going for $500 or $600 alone then you have cpu, memory,
motherboard, power supply, and then the nail in the coffin the OS.
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