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Old 06-04-2013, 9:09 AM
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Default New Schrade SCHF10 Knife

Just received this in the mail yesterday, figured I'd post some pics up as it's fairly new to the market. I haven't had it long enough to do any real testing with it, but my initial impression of this knife is that it should be capable of nearly anything you can throw at it.

Blade steel on this is 1/4" thick8Cr13MoV, which from my research appears to a Chinese version of AUS8 Stainless. Depending on heat treatment, it should hold up pretty well under use, although it won't hold and edge as well as a high carbon steel like 1095. Overall fit and finish is excellent, especially considering the sub $40.00 street price. In particular, the micarta handle slabs match up with the tang flawlessly. The 3D maching on the micarta slads is extremely well done. I've had knives that I paid a lot more for that didn't look nearly this well made.

Ergonomics and blade geometry are also extremely good on this knife. Overall length is 10.6", so it's not an overly large knife for most uses. Most knive intended for bushcraft type use are typically a bit larger than this at around 12" or more. This is sized small enough that it should fit inside a pack without taking up too much room. Should also carry well on a belt without looking like Rambo.... The handle area and spine of the blade has extensive "jimping" to allow for a more secure grip in a variety of positions. The handle scales are contoured for a very secure grip without any "hot spots" that could cause blisters under hard use. However, because the micarta is a pretty hard and has an aggressive texture, I'd suggest gloves for chopping or extended use. The blade grind is a very well executed hollow grind that leaves plenty of material near the blade edge for a very durable cutting surface. Plenty of metal is also left out near the tip of the blade as well. I think it would be difficult to break or bend the tip of this thing without hacking into something like cinder block or stone.

So far, my only real complaint with this knife is the sheath. Material wise, it's pretty decent, but it lacks an internal plastic liner to safely secure the blade. It also secures the knife in place with a cheap feeling Velcro strap, which doesn't inspire confidence in it's ability to retain the knife during anything but routine carry. The sheath also lacks any kind of provision for MOLLE attachment, which should be nearly mandatory for a sheath on a knife like this.

Upon preliminary review, I really like this knife a lot, aside from the sheath. I'll probably make a Kydex sheath for it in the near future. I'll post pics of that once it's done, as well as any issues that might come up with this knife during use.

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Old 06-04-2013, 6:06 PM
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Thanks for sharing good write up!
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Nice looking knife. Let us know how it holds up over time.
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Old 06-05-2013, 8:36 PM
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Great review! The old lady has been looking for a "campin blade" & at the Schrade price point, this just might be a winner!
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:05 AM
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Had some time over the weekend to take the knife out and try it out for some light chopping. The factory edge is reasonably sharp, so chopping through anything under 2" in diameter goes pretty quickly. Despite the short-ish length of 10.6", it swings like a much larger knife due to the weight of the 1/4" thick blade. The handle allows for a modified grip using just 2 or 3 fingers near the rear of the grip. This puts more length and weight into the swing, although you need to be careful to keep a secure grip when swinging so the knife doesn't go flying.... swinging with this grip, the knife performs more like a small hatchet.

Edge retention seems pretty decent from my limited testing. I hacked through enough small branches to fill up a couple of large trash cans. Afterwards the edge was still sharp enough that I wouldn't care to run my finger against it lengthwise. It would still easily carve up curls of tree bark without much effort. The black finish on the blade seems pretty durable, showing no wear at all. I cleaned off the tree sap with some acetone, and it basically looks brand new again. Afterward I used my Lansky sharpener to put a better edge on it. I had to find a longer screw for the clamping mechanism to get it over the heavy blade of the SCHF10. This thing really is built like a sharpened crowbar.... Re-profiling the edge to match the geometry of the Lansky sharpener took a looooong time. I spent about 45 minutes with the roughest grit stone to get the edge bevel profiled. This is one of the few knives I have made from the 8Cr13MoV steel. I'm impressed by the amount of effort it takes to grind this stuff down. It's a much harder steel than the 420 grade stainless typically used in low priced knives. I would even rate this higher than the 440C used in many mid range knives from companies like Boker or SOG. It seems to wear and sharpen a lot like ATS-34 knives that I've had.
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How much and where did you score that beast?
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How much and where did you score that beast?
Amazon. Just under $40.00 w/ free shipping:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...0915677&sr=8-1
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Good after action report.

Seems like a great price for a great knife.
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As usual, I find FMJBT's posts to be some of the most useful here on CG, and after reading his write-up and recommendation here, I ordered up one of these (BTW, great "knife-porn" photos FMJBT!).

I spend a lot of time just across from a local river park, so for the last holiday week I've been going out every day and hammering this knife and putting it though the bushcraft drills. I can only say good things about this knife. Handle is grippy, comfortable and beautiful, the moderate re-curve in the blade is great for finer tasks, the forward part of the blade has lots of belly for easy cutting, the tip is like a tank and has very little risk of breaking, the jimping all over is great, and very importantly, the steel sharpens back up within a minute or two using a DMT Diafold combo edge.

Ya, the sheath is nothing to write home about, but it's durable and functional enough for occasional use (I will be building up a kydex based-bushcraft sheath for it in a few weeks for it, as well as adding firesteel, line cutting and pot holder notches in the blade). Then I will be striping down the blade, doing some acid etching and adding a patina (if the steel will take it).

I highly recommend this knife as a heavy duty medium-large "if I only have one knife with me" solution at a great price! (half the price of the Becker, 1/3 the price of the ESEE 6! It just can't be passed up at that price, unless you refuse to buy a chinese made knife... I better not see you shopping at Walmart if that is the case!)

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Thanx always great to see good reviews,
sheaths are half the knife,
thought about going into business myself offering good aftermarket sheaths
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Niiiiiice!

I agree these knife manufacturers need to start making snap/velcro MOLLE attachments. I mean my Lenser LED flashlight has one for gods sake! At least my blades can have one as well!
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Nice looking knife, the kydex will cost more then the knife. Dang kydex costs 50 bucks now days. That knife looks like it would do a darned good job skinning a deer as well. I used Mashed Cat for my kydex as I dont want to make my own.

The last knife i got was a ratmandu and it costs about 175 with shipping then another 50+ ship on the kydex so Im out over 2 bills.

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...0915677&sr=8-1

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Well, there goes 45.00 with tax..

Mine should arrive Monday. I got some yard work to do so It's gonna have a rough first day.
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Another classic American name sold down the tubes to market a Chinese made product...
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FYI, mine came with a sheath that does have a plastic liner on the inside.

Fit and finish are decent enough...not 100% perfect but for the price it's quite nice. Will cut some brush later and see how it stacks up.
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That is a beauty! Why not post in blades section!
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I've been beating the crap out of it for the past few days doing spring cleaning in the yard. It really holds an edge well. Been cutting hardwoods and bamboo. It chopped through three inch thick saplings and fig tree branches without much trouble and my wrists felt fine afterwards...can't say the same for other blades with skinnier handles.
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Old 01-13-2014, 11:35 AM
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Thats been on my Amazon wish list for awhile. The $1 sheath is what keeps the price low.

I ended up getting one of these...

http://www.amazon.com/Gerber-31-0005...=gerber+knives

Comes with an excellent Molle ready sheath, full tang construction & American made
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I have the SCHF 9 and use it quite a bit in the kitchen and really like it. I use it mainly as a stand in for a butcher knife cutting larger pieces of meat and chopping bone. No problems in that regard.

I also take it with me for any hiking/camping trips more than 24 hours, but use it as needed and don't go out of my way to chop down anything that isn't going to be needed (at least that's the best sounding excuse I can come up with for my laziness).

Gratz on the knife. Schrade really hit it out of the park with their SCHF series.
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Added to the favorites bar.. gonna get a couple of these for my go bags
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