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Old 05-20-2013, 5:09 PM
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Why do marketplace sellers remove the price or substitute "SOLD" or "SPF" in their for sale listings when sold?
As a buyer or a seller, I cannot gauge the market by what has been selling.
What could this practice possibly hope to accomplish for buyers, sellers or our community at large? It definitely harms us. Seems counterproductive to me. Or am I missing something?
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Items sold sometimes bring in offers/sales other than asking price.....maybe?
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Sometimes to protect the seller if he decides to sell a similar item for more money.
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I think it discourages bidding behind the doors or simply as a respect to the buyer's privacy.
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Cuz the item is gone.
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I never remove the prices on items I sell. I do this to keep me and the buyer on the same page on what was advertised. As you indicated, it gives folks who are gauging current or past prices an idea on market value. Arfcom also has the policy of not removing prices from ads.
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The OP is asking price , what transpires between buyer and seller to come to an agreement is their business based on their individual requirements. If the asking is within my budget, I feel comfortable, I'll buy it.
I remove any reference to price because it's none of your business. I'm not here to teach you sales, negotiating etc. Do your own due diligence.
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The OP is asking price , what transpires between buyer and seller to come to an agreement is their business based on their individual requirements. If the asking is within my budget, I feel comfortable, I'll buy it.
I remove any reference to price because it's none of your business. I'm not here to teach you sales, negotiating etc. Do your own due diligence.
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I always remove as stated above, I don't need people into my business after a deal is completed. I use a current gun value guide to gauge both sales and purchase prices. If a good value, I'm in. If out in left field, I move on.
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Considering the asking price is probably different than the sold for price was, your not loosing any information.
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The OP is asking price , what transpires between buyer and seller to come to an agreement is their business based on their individual requirements. If the asking is within my budget, I feel comfortable, I'll buy it.
I remove any reference to price because it's none of your business. I'm not here to teach you sales, negotiating etc. Do your own due diligence.
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Considering the asking price is probably different than the sold for price was, your not loosing any information.
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I never remove the prices on items I sell. I do this to keep me and the buyer on the same page on what was advertised. As you indicated, it gives folks who are gauging current or past prices an idea on market value. Arfcom also has the policy of not removing prices from ads.
I do the same...I simply put "SOLD" in the title and thread body.

My sales usually happen so fast I dont have enough time to put SPF...lol
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...I don't need people into my business....
This is why I don't have facebook....Calguns.net is all the drama I allow myself to have.
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Sometimes to protect the seller if he decides to sell a similar item for more money.
^ this. also to keep others wondering what good deal they missed out on lol.
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I do it just to piss off people like the OP.
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So guys like you don't bug,and ask if it's still for sale
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The OP is asking price , what transpires between buyer and seller to come to an agreement is their business based on their individual requirements. If the asking is within my budget, I feel comfortable, I'll buy it.
I remove any reference to price because it's none of your business. I'm not here to teach you sales, negotiating etc. Do your own due diligence.
I kinda consider looking at past sales on here doing my due diligence. Trying to get an idea of what a gun is going for here in California. I bought a gun on Saturday and one of the first things I did was try to get an idea of what they were selling for in the marketplace here vs gunbroker vs local. Almost all the prices had been deleted and it was kinda tough to figure out what they were going for used. If I see it posted with 5 I’ll take it’s I figure that price was kinda low or a good deal in todays market. But if the 5 I’ll take it’s are at a price of SOLD it doesn’t really help me get an idea of what they are going for(or how much money I need to save or put away till another comes on the market).

Sure this isn’t foolproof and I don’t know the final sales price. But if someone is asking $800 and I can look back and see that there were 3 identical guns listed with a asking price of $500 within the last 2 months I might be better holding off for a better deal. Same goes for sellers. See it listed for $500 and buyers lining up you might want to try for $800.

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Because people are embarrassed of the gouging prices they list stuff for?
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I don't understand the need to delete the prices on sold items either. I simply add sold to the thread title and put sold next to asking price and maybe a final post of sold to close the thread.

I too try to get a feel for what similar items are selling for prior to posting an item for sale and/or accepting an asking price.

No one said a seller needs to update the thread with what the item actually sold for, so I don't see how it is getting into anyone's business to leave the original price on the thread. After all the seller put his business out there by posting the for-sale-item in the first place.
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Ive started quoting the OP for my "I'll take it", that way I have a reference incase the OP changes anything
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Because otherwise you'll get contacted multiple times months later by complete noobs who fail to see the giant bolded "SOLD" text in the title and on the same line as the price.

"He said it's sold, but he still has the price listed so he must still have it."

You think I'm kidding, but this has happened multiple times.
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Quoting the seller with all the pertinent info of the sale ad is one way of preventing problems between the two parties when the seller can easily change the ad description.
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Because otherwise you'll get contacted multiple times months later by complete noobs who fail to see the giant bolded "SOLD" text in the title and on the same line as the price.

"He said it's sold, but he still has the price listed so he must still have it."

You think I'm kidding, but this has happened multiple times.
Exactamundo. It is true that a lot of stuff marked SPF ends up not sold, but removing the price does slow down the frenzy.
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I do about 50/50. If I do leave the price on, I'll usually strike it so that people know the item is sold. I'm mostly concerned with receiving PM's from items that was sold years ago. In the past, I've politely asked sellers what their final asking price was through PMs. And in turn, have been PM'ed a few times on what my final buying/selling price was.
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I think it should be a policy to leave prices up. This would help all of us all establish fair market value for items.
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I've noticed this too.. as well as people deleting everything and asking for the thread to be deleted.. makes no sense. . it needs to be there for feedback and it's nice to go back and read what you bought from who

Just start quoting the OP
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I think it should be a policy to leave prices up. This would help all of us all establish fair market value for items.
Again, the primary function of the marketplace is to facilitate sales of firearms. It is not to create a guide or tool for people to use to gauge the value of a firearm. If people use it for that, so be it; however, it's purely a secondary benefit of the marketplace. Don't complain that you can't see the price someone paid for something , its none of your business.
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I don't understand the need to delete the prices on sold items either. I simply add sold to the thread title and put sold next to asking price and maybe a final post of sold to close the thread.

I too try to get a feel for what similar items are selling for prior to posting an item for sale and/or accepting an asking price.

No one said a seller needs to update the thread with what the item actually sold for, so I don't see how it is getting into anyone's business to leave the original price on the thread. After all the seller put his business out there by posting the for-sale-item in the first place.
Agreed! I do wish prices would stay up after the items have been sold. Helps us get an idea of what to fairly price sale items for. Instead of changing the price to $PF or $OLD, the OP can simply put

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I'm also guilty of not changing items marked "SPF" to "SOLD", so any inquiries regarding an item's availability is really my own fault.
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Time for someone to start a poll ?



I have also wondered why the asking prices were removed. Seems like the ones that remove the info, post sale, are a bit defensive. It's their choice of course.
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Cuz the item is gone.
Thats the reason why I do it...lol but I can see why the OP is asking, can be varies reasons. Depends on seller.
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I cross the asking price out and put SOLD next to the line, I think. LoL. I know I did it on my last thread.
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I think it was a rule for a while to keep the sale price even after it was sold, I guess that never stuck.
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The item is gone.
A lot of times the entire ad will be cleared. Privacy I am sure.
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Because otherwise you'll get contacted multiple times months later by complete noobs who fail to see the giant bolded "SOLD" text in the title and on the same line as the price.

"He said it's sold, but he still has the price listed so he must still have it."

You think I'm kidding, but this has happened multiple times.

This is the reason I will remove the ad content after a month or two.

After that period of time I also no longer would consider it a good market indicator anyway.

I will also remove the ad content here if the item is listed and sold on another forum.
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Again, the primary function of the marketplace is to facilitate sales of firearms. It is not to create a guide or tool for people to use to gauge the value of a firearm. If people use it for that, so be it; however, it's purely a secondary benefit of the marketplace. Don't complain that you can't see the price someone paid for something , its none of your business.
You don't have to post what it "sold" for just leave the "asking" price up.
It allows people to see what the market is in comparison to Gunbroker etc.

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