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Old 05-14-2013, 9:06 PM
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well a mauser has 2,000 yd adjustable sights lol, back in the day i guess they figured 2,000 was no problem. last weekend a few buddies and i were putin rounds on target with a 91/30 freestanding no rest at 300yds. 500 yds is very doable and a good marksman could hit and even farther i would think
That was for something called volley fire. The idea was to lay down suppressive fire at distance. Classic scene

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Old 05-14-2013, 9:18 PM
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That was for something called volley fire. The idea was to lay down suppressive fire at distance. Classic scene


man, the balls it would take to ride a horse directly into a volley of artillary an rifles. what movie is that from?
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I still prefer my irons over an acog for target shooting. I can hit 600 no problem with m855 ball and irons. I think the acog is a great piece of gear but not teaching how to shot with iron sights anymore is pissing me off. I've broken 2 acogs and had to switch to irons in combat situations. Good thing I know how to use them.
Who were you with and where were you when you broke these two ACOGs and had to switch to Iron Sights "in combat situations". Please elaborate.
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500 meters if your a Marine.
All day long..... I was usually 8-9 out of 10 from the 500 meter mark.

Then again that was with a 20in barrel. I wonder how much of a difference it'd make with my current DD 14.5 pinned?? Or even a Noveske? Thoughts?

I read an article once about someone taking a Noveske rifle to an Army rifle range during their qualifying and they let the soldiers shoot it. The soldiers were nailing it down range and were raving that they'd never miss a shot if there were given those to qualify with.

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Old 05-15-2013, 8:32 PM
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All day long..... I was usually 8-9 out of 10 from the 500 meter mark.

Then again that was with a 20in barrel. I wonder how much of a difference it'd make with my current DD 14.5 pinned?? Or even a Noveske? Thoughts?

I read an article once about someone taking a Noveske rifle to an Army rifle range during their qualifying and they let the soldiers shoot it. The soldiers were nailing it down range and were raving that they'd never miss a shot if there were given those to qualify with.
For what it's worth, I'm not a Marine, just born to a Corpsman that was at some point on both the rifle and pistol teams. Barrel length shouldn't make that much of a difference other than a shorter sight radius and a little less velocity. Adjust the hold a smidge and use a proper shooting position and it shouldn't be a problem. That being said, it's a rare occasion that I get to shoot that far, and never have with a carbine.
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500 meters if your a Marine.
You got it.

Here is how you shoot 500 as a Marine.
Your arm goes numb, elbow no longer hurts because it is numb.

500 line move!
We all move.
I stand at the 500 line, wind is moving so I make a adjustment, also adjust for my bullet drop.
I look down my sites, make my adjustments.

Line the sites, now I play a game with my rifle its called "Just the tip"
I line the tip steady with the chest of my target.
Breath in, breath out, focus on the tip, slow and steady squeeze, slow and steady release.

Missed a possible by 1 shot. 9/10 shots on target.
4 head shots, 5 body shots.
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YOUR arm goes numb---I used the Ares Armor Huskey Slider Sling. **** all that old school loop sling BS.

They need to overhaul our T-1 and T-2. I don't want to deal with anymore clowns asking the NSN of my sling. You there---this is exactly what I'm going to use in combat, and this is what I'm going to shoot with. Thanks.
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All day long..... I was usually 8-9 out of 10 from the 500 meter mark.

Then again that was with a 20in barrel. I wonder how much of a difference it'd make with my current DD 14.5 pinned?? Or even a Noveske? Thoughts?

I read an article once about someone taking a Noveske rifle to an Army rifle range during their qualifying and they let the soldiers shoot it. The soldiers were nailing it down range and were raving that they'd never miss a shot if there were given those to qualify with.
My transition to an M4 from M16A4 wasn't that big of a deal on the qual range.
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yes they get acogs. we still had irons in boot in 06. My last couple of range trips i shot with an acog on a FN m16a4. it was nice
WTF I missed this post.... acogs in boot camp? I was hitting 8/9 out of 10 with irons! There's no change in hell I woulda missed one single round in qual with an acog.

OP.... forgot to mention that at the 500 meter mark the rifle isn't propped on anything, it's just tension from the sling. So with a bi-pod or ruc sack, you should be nailing it at that distance.
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We used an aimpoint compm4 in Army basic. Pretty easy to hit at 300 if you're zeroed right. I also wish they would do iron sights. In basic we zeroed our irons and never touched them again.
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I'm a noob with no real training and I hit paper all day long at 100 with my m1a socom. I hope our military can on occasion hit 300 out or else we wouldn't be here. So thanks for your service OP and send me a f$&ing acog when you break the next one.
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Err, not the OP. The marine above with his 600 meter comment
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You got it.

Here is how you shoot 500 as a Marine.
Your arm goes numb, elbow no longer hurts because it is numb.

500 line move!
We all move.
I stand at the 500 line, wind is moving so I make a adjustment, also adjust for my bullet drop.
I look down my sites, make my adjustments.

Line the sites, now I play a game with my rifle its called "Just the tip"
I line the tip steady with the chest of my target.
Breath in, breath out, focus on the tip, slow and steady squeeze, slow and steady release.

Missed a possible by 1 shot. 9/10 shots on target.
4 head shots, 5 body shots.
I'll tell you what Devil Dog, that was like a novel. Cross rifles on his
chest means a lot to us huh? It says a lot about the most fundamental part of you as a U.S. Marine. Urrrggghhh.
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Who were you with and where were you when you broke these two ACOGs and had to switch to Iron Sights "in combat situations". Please elaborate.
I was with RCT-1 pushing through the streets of Fallujah in 2004-2005. Broke both of them exiting vehicles. 1st one I damaged the tube on top and it started leaking a liquid. Probably not a good thing since its radioactive. Switched it out for a new one and broke it several weeks later. That one I smacked the front glass on something exiting the vehicle and destroyed it.

I still think they are great pieces of gear but I won't leave irons behind.
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Outstanding marksmanship gents. To all our sevice members past and present, a heartfelt Thank YOU. I will be remembering those that have fallen in the pursuit of our freedom on Memorial Day.
My best, 837 yards 8 out of ten (first two were ranging shots) on a 3/4 man sized steel shilloutte. Gun is my M1A with national match hooded rear peep, but otherwise issue grade rifle. Ammo was surplus 147 gr. 7.62x51 ball.
I was trading the Scout Sniper instructors at Camp Pendleton up close pistol CQB for long distance (next best thing to being there) rifle training.
"Keep'm in the black, guys (and gals)" OP with practice 350 to 400 yards is attainable, with serious coaching, as our Marines have testified...500/600 yards can be had with an AR15/M16. If can see it and ID it as a target you should be able to hit it with ironsights
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