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Old 04-24-2013, 4:45 PM
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My kid just text me and told me he went to Turners today and bought a 9mm Hi-Point. I don't know anything about them. They any good? He said he only paid about $180......sounds cheap?
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heres a gnarly torture test done on them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbvvurXmAmg

its cheap / accurate
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buy one shoot it enjoy it everybody that talks trash about them has not even ever shot one so they are just going by the price and looks or comparing it to their $1,000 dollor handgun
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Would you wear a $20 helmet? kinda the same bracket.
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As long as you don't rely on it to save your life you'll probably be okay with it as a range toy or whatever.
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Ignore the people on here who look down their noses at the hi-point, they obviously never owned one. They shoot fine, they are ugly, but tough.
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My kid just text me and told me he went to Turners today and bought a 9mm Hi-Point. I don't know anything about them. They any good? He said he only paid about $180......sounds cheap?
It's as good as a glock for a fraction of the price and without all the ugly.
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buy one shoot it enjoy it everybody that talks trash about them has not even ever shot one so they are just going by the price and looks or comparing it to their $1,000 dollor handgun
Those are strong words. I've shot one (repeatedly) and didn't like it- I'll admit I never owned one. It's not comfortable to hold or manipulate, and I experienced repeated jams and failures. For a cheap range plinker I'm sure it's fine. It didn't frustrate me to no end, I just didn't feel it was a quality weapon.

It's also uglier than sin


In the end, if OP's son enjoys it then all is well. I'll shoot one just for funsies, but I wouldn't trust my life to it
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Those are strong words. I've shot one (repeatedly) and didn't like it- I'll admit I never owned one. It's not comfortable to hold or manipulate, and I experienced repeated jams and failures. For a cheap range plinker I'm sure it's fine. It didn't frustrate me to no end, I just didn't feel it was a quality weapon.

It's also uglier than sin


In the end, if OP's son enjoys it then all is well. I'll shoot one just for funsies, but I wouldn't trust my life to it
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I have owned the highest end arms for a very long time. Not until recent years I purchased 2 high point from other fellow other CalGunners and do not regret at all. These thing are far from good looking but these things work like a champ. So far so good. Congrats on your sons buy.
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This has got to be a troll. Hi-Points are an OK recreational toy for the range. They are so cheap that if you leave them in a parked car, the plastic furnishings will melt.

To top it off, they might have actually beaten Glock on the ugliness factor.
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Since your title is all in caps, here's your answer: NO.
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That's the funny thing. The only complaint I ever hear about Hi Point is that they're ugly.

These things are already tough as nails... If Hi Point would make better looking guns, I bet you their perceived quality would go through the roof.
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any good, yes, no one wants to be on the wrong end of one. I would check it for live fire function, clean it a little, oil the crap out of it, and keep it for a rainy day.

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9 grains of bullseye with and a 3/8" bolt driven in the barrel with a universal AK tool and the thing still shoots...
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The carbines are cooler than the pistols.

They are heavy and ugly but they work.
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I have never owned one, But Ive shot a few that friends owned. They are entry level guns. Both guns that I had shot would eat any ammo fed to them, and were decently accurate. But by necessity they are heavy as a brick, and there are no after market parts or holsters available.
If I owned one and it was dependable I would be happy with it as a nite stand gun, or a range gun. Most people who buy them and find out that they enjoy them will go on to buy better suited guns for their intended use. One good thing about High Point, Is that its still worth about what he paid when he wants something better. Both of my friends have passed theirs on. One to a younger family member, and the other to another GI who couldn't afford more. DR
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The carbines are cooler than the pistols.

They are heavy and ugly but they work.
agreed on the carbines.

hi-points are good. the problem is you can get a makarov,nagant revolver etc. for about the same price.
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I like to think of Hi-Points as the cheap casio watch of the gun world. Would I trust a casio when traveling to a job interview...nope. Would I trust a casio when heading to the airport...not a chance.

Would I trust a Hi-Point with anything but FMJ...nope. Would I trust a Hi-Point with my life...hell no.

But just like a casio, when they don't work well anymore you just go out and buy a new one. A range toy is all you should expect.
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Would I trust a Hi-Point with anything but FMJ...nope. Would I trust a Hi-Point with my life...hell no..
You should watch those videos and then get back to me with another gun that will take that abuse.

9 grains of BE in a 9mm with a barrel obstruction is pretty harsh. I use 4.5 grains of BE behind a 230 grain cast for .45 ACP.
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thats pretty damn impressive that there was no catastrophic failure on that hi point. a few months ago my brothers kimber blew up from shooting reloads (overloaded probably) and sustained catastrophic damage to the frame and barrel. i still would much rather buy a kimber than hi point obviously, thats impressive though.
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That's the funny thing. The only complaint I ever hear about Hi Point is that they're ugly.

These things are already tough as nails... If Hi Point would make better looking guns, I bet you their perceived quality would go through the roof.
Makes you wonder why they don't hire a better designer...

Someone there must like making guns that look like something that came out of Robocop..
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A brick would be more reliable and a lot better looking.
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I bought the 9mm carbine when it first came out, my wife bought the 45ACP when it came out.(trust me i wanted a 45) Never had an issue with their products other than i dont use it that much compared to other guns.
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I have a Hi Point C9:

Pros: Inexpensive, reliable, accurate as you shoot it, American made, No Questions Asked Lifetime Warranty, built to withstand damage (see torture test videos)

Cons: Strange design (what some may call ugly), ammo picky (only feed it FMJ), not a whole lot of after-market products for it, a pain in the *** to fully field strip and clean

Careful who you get advice from. Some people find it hard to believe that this $170 pistol shoots just as well as their $600 gun, so they get bitter and bash it without even owning or firing them. My Hi Point C9 shoots just as well as my Smith & Wesson M&P40. Unless your son is one of those type who buys for the sake of showing off a popular brand, he should be okay.

Also check out their forum, very helpful and friendly people: http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/
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The looks of the Hi-Point suffers from 1) a desire to keep the manufacturing costs down and 2) the need to put a whole lot of mass somewhere to allow a non-locked-breech pistol to function with cartridges like 9mm, .40 and .45. My guess is that if you tried to make the gun look better you would also end-up making it handle worse.

They may be on to something however. Walther is bringing-out a new pistol, the PPX and it seems to take its styling cues from Hi-Point.
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You should watch those videos and then get back to me with another gun that will take that abuse.

9 grains of BE in a 9mm with a barrel obstruction is pretty harsh. I use 4.5 grains of BE behind a 230 grain cast for .45 ACP.
Oh, ive watched 'em. Im not impressed by torture tests, im impressed by flawless functioning and the ability to feed and shoot reliably when it counts the most.

Im not sure what you do to test your guns reliability, but I dont make a habit of packing obstructions in the barrel to test a weapon. I shoot it like I would in a real life or death situation, and the Hi Point fails that test consistently.
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Oh, ive watched 'em. Im not impressed by torture tests, im impressed by flawless functioning and the ability to feed and shoot reliably when it counts the most.

Im not sure what you do to test your guns reliability, but I dont make a habit of packing obstructions in the barrel to test a weapon. I shoot it like I would in a real life or death situation, and the Hi Point fails that test consistently.
Lulz, what mythical gun is this that flawlessly functions and never fails? Enquiring minds want to know.


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Lulz, what mythical gun is this that flawlessly functions and never fails? Enquiring minds want to know.
My 220 has never failed me, German model from 1994. It'll shoot JHP's, snakeshot, and everything else I feed through it. No malfunctions, just regular maintenance. Works flawlessly during rapid fire, and doesnt choke when dirty. More than I can say about the Hi Point.

I understand everything mechanical will fail at some point, but when It comes to my self preservation id like to minimize that possability in any way I can. Once again, fun range toy, but ive got better options when **** gets serious.
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My 220 has never failed me, German model from 1994. It'll shoot JHP's, snakeshot, and everything else I feed through it. No malfunctions, just regular maintenance. Works flawlessly during rapid fire, and doesnt choke when dirty. More than I can say about the Hi Point.


OIC, how many rounds have you put through your 220? How many through your HiPoint?

I ran about 4k through my german p226 and had a few stovepipes. Never had a FTanything with myC9
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In another thread about HiPoints I had mentioned that I had a C9 and sold it to fund another gun purchase. The one I owned had a few stove pipes. They stopped after I tweaked the magazine feed lips. The factory magazines are known to give the pistol feeding problems if they are not adjusted right. For the price, HiPoint pistols are great for your BOB, for storing in your boat, camper, trailer, cabin, etc. Places where you dont want any of your other higher priced firearms stored for a long period of time and where there are greater chances of getting broken into and then stolen. For the first time gun buyer, for just a couple hundred dollars more I would recommend buying something of more quality and with better resale value.
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Excellent first firearm

Tell him to get the highpoint carbine to go with it
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