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Old 04-22-2013, 7:04 PM
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Hypothetical situation: What do you do?

1.) You are in gridlocked traffic at a standstill somewhere in California, you see 100 yards ahead a shooter is going car to car shooting people and headed your direction. You have both a handgun and AR15 in your vehicle. What do you do?
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Join him, it's gridlock, an excellent defense.
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Curse the fact you couldn't find ammo anywhere.
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post on the calguns 2nd amendment forum asking for advice?
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Curse the fact you couldn't find ammo anywhere.
You could let the shooter through peacefully and go back and collect brass though.
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You could let the shooter through peacefully and go back and collect brass though.



lolrof!.............and that is rare!
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Think about the hold under you need?
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Guys this isnt a troll thread, serious answers please.
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My answers were serious. Well, as serious as your hypothetical anyway.

Whats wrong with collecting spent brass during an ammo shortage?
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100 yards ~ 20 cars
1 box per person per day....


he'll run out of ammo before he gets to you.
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Guys this isnt a troll thread, serious answers please.
Oh jeez sorry.

Shoot yourself in the head, or shoot the other guy, or talk him out of it, or drive on the shoulder if possible and leave, in either direction, or call 911 and do nothing, or call 911 or do any of the above.

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Honestly, I'm also seriously curious what the law says about this.

Say for example, I have a locked pistol and spare ammo. Am I even allowed to stop the assailant? Because the moment I take out my pistol, I made myself a criminal too because I am technically in "open carry" status???
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Oh jeez sorry.

Shoot yourself in the head, or shoot the other guy, or talk him out of it, or drive on the shoulder if possible and leave, in either direction, or call 911 and do nothing, or call 911 or do any of the above.

You are a troll.
uhh, ok. thanks for all the help guys.

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Honestly, I'm also seriously curious what the law says about this.

Say for example, I have a locked pistol and spare ammo. Am I even allowed to stop the assailant? Because the moment I take out my pistol, I made myself a criminal too because I am technically in "open carry" status???
Thats exactly why I made this thread, but apparently I came to the wrong place as I only got troll responses.


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Honestly, I'm also seriously curious what the law says about this.

Say for example, I have a locked pistol and spare ammo. Am I even allowed to stop the assailant? Because the moment I take out my pistol, I made myself a criminal too because I am technically in "open carry" status???
OK, I'll bite. If you were to stop the assailant and save the day there would definitely be no charges brought against you. Assuming you didn't hit any innocents of course, that is only allowed by the police.
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Guys this isnt a troll thread, serious answers please.
Use a laser to highlight the Prius's??
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Use a laser to highlight the Prius's??
Wow that was hilarious.
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Oh, for Pete's sake!

The question may be serious, but people don't take it seriously because each and every one of us likes to believe that if they had a fully functional AR-15 that they'd go tactical and nail the cretin.

Handgun if they had to.

But other than a general impulse there is a lot going on in the scenario and trying to choose the exact tactical response would be incredibly difficult.

You can bet that there'd be a whole lot of folk trying to maneuver which means that getting out of the auto might get you run over and rendered ineffective.

It also matters whether you are driver or passenger and on which side of the vehicle the shooter is on.

Also, is the cretin moving in a tactically proficient manner? Do they appear to have a lot of magazines to feed the firearm? What is the quality of their shooting?

If you figure that you are going to shoot from within your vehicle you have to figure whether you are going to be shooting through the windshield. If you are going to shoot through the windshield you may need to choose the handgun (depending on caliber) as AR-15s are not renowned for their ability to penetrate windshields and carry good ballistics thereafter.

Do you hear choppers overhead? You hop out with an AR-15 and the cops may be immediately gunning for you. No sense going after the bad guy if it just means you get killed a few seconds before they do. And, of course, if you can see the helicopter (or other tacticool vehicles) you may be able to assess whether they are just surveilling or are ready to intervene.

I feel like I'm just getting started.

The one thing I know is that I'd be preparing for the encounter and assessing the risks and benefits of various approaches. But exactly what that approach would be - I have far too little knowledge of the scenario to come up with a favored course of action.
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Look up the PC. There are exemptions for "open carry" in emergencies, when life is threatened, etc. I'm not going to do it for you.
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WELLARMEDSURFER, Seriously, if you really don't know the answers to self defense outside the home, its probably best not to create fantasies.

General rule in CA is that you may protect life from one trying to take it, whether its yours or someone else's. Be prepared to be sued in civil court, be prepared to be taken into custody after the shoot and lose you guns. Pray that the DA in that county has a sense of humor!!

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by six... Its really just common sense.
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Honestly, I'm also seriously curious what the law says about this.

Say for example, I have a locked pistol and spare ammo. Am I even allowed to stop the assailant? Because the moment I take out my pistol, I made myself a criminal too because I am technically in "open carry" status???
Look up the PC. There are exemptions for "open carry" in emergencies, when life is threatened, etc. I'm not going to do it for you.
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WELLARMEDSURFER, Seriously, if you really don't know the answers to self defense outside the home, its probably best not to create fantasies.

General rule in CA is that you may protect life from one trying to take it, whether its yours or someone else's. Be prepared to be sued in civil court, be prepared to be taken into custody after the shoot and lose you guns. Pray that the DA in that county has a sense of humor!!

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by six... Its really just common sense.
So if I dont know the answers to self defense outside the home, I shouldnt try to learn them? Okay.

Have fun being banned bro.
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So if I dont know the answers to self defense outside the home, I shouldnt try to learn them? Okay.

Have fun being banned bro.
How about read some cases that have actually happened instead of making up fantasies. And i am not your bro!
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Wow that was hilarious.
It's such a routine situation from a tactical standpoint, I thought I would inject a little levity.

Case law is abundant due to the many occurrences you described. I assumed your OP was just poking fun at the people that do not pay attention to such things.

Again, your would be actions are clearly laid out in the "what if" legal manual of "practical civilian response to usual freeway situations".
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So if I dont know the answers to self defense outside the home, I shouldnt try to learn them? Okay.

Have fun being banned bro.
DUDE...You just joined this month and you have 27 posts and you're talking bout banning people? LOL Cool your jets, turn down the bass, whatever you gotta do, but chill...

If you read the CALIFORNIA FIREARMS LAWS you can answer your question by yourself, don't expect others to make a conclusion for you.

As for me, I would do whatever I had to do to survive...If that means I have to arm myself and fire on the person, so be it...
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So if I dont know the answers to self defense outside the home, I shouldnt try to learn them? Okay.

Have fun being banned bro.
I think it is just fine to ask the questions. We all have to do that in order to learn the basic answers.

This particular question was phrased as about a particular scenario rather than as a question about whether you can use lethal force to stop someone from killing people.

Hang around and ask more questions. You'll learn which questions are more productive.

But honestly, I think you confused everyone.

I think everyone takes it as a given that they will fight back whether legal or illegal. That led me (at least) to the assumption that the question was a tactical one.

I seriously misunderstood where you were at.

It is your ethical duty to attempt to stop murderers. Ethical duty is more important than eventual incarceration.

You can bet that if you fight back in my neighborhood that you will be jailed and (if you were reasonable in your actions) eventually exonerated and released.
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How about read some cases that have actually happened instead of making up fantasies. And i am not your bro!
Relax bro.

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It's such a routine situation from a tactical standpoint, I thought I would inject a little levity.

Case law is abundant due to the many occurrences you described. I assumed your OP was just poking fun at the people that do not pay attention to such things.

Again, your would be actions are clearly laid out in the "what if" legal manual of "practical civilian response to usual freeway situations".
The question is more along the lines of do you attempt to save other lives or not?

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DUDE...You just joined this month and you have 27 posts and you're talking bout banning people? LOL Cool your jets, turn down the bass, whatever you gotta do, but chill...

If you read the CALIFORNIA FIREARMS LAWS you can answer your question by yourself, don't expect others to make a conclusion for you.

As for me, I would do whatever I had to do to survive...If that means I have to arm myself and fire on the person, so be it...
yeah cuz 27 posts is so many

And the guys usertitle says banned....

Again the question is more along the lines of do you risk your own freedom/safety to save other?

Well, you guys sure know how to welcome in a new user, where do I signup to donate?
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Relax bro.
>> Not everyone partake in 4:20.

The question is more along the lines of do you attempt to save other lives or not?
>> That is a question for you and you alone.

And the guys usertitle says banned....
>> When you are a (huge?) donor to CGF, you get to choose your own title. I think his title is related to Tincon's.

Again the question is more along the lines of do you risk your own freedom/safety to save other?
>> From a moral stand point, that is a question for you and you alone. From a legal stand point, googling case laws might help.

Well, you guys sure know how to welcome in a new user, where do I signup to donate?
>> You haven't seen the replies to the thread started by a new user complaining how he was robbed outside a strip joint and how if he had a CCW, he'd whip it out.
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Relax bro.
>> Not everyone partake in 4:20.

The question is more along the lines of do you attempt to save other lives or not?
>> That is a question for you and you alone.

And the guys usertitle says banned....
>> When you are a (huge?) donor to CGF, you get to choose your own title. I think his title is related to Tincon's.

Again the question is more along the lines of do you risk your own freedom/safety to save other?
>> From a moral stand point, that is a question for you and you alone. From a legal stand point, googling case laws might help.

Well, you guys sure know how to welcome in a new user, where do I signup to donate?
>> You haven't seen the replies to the thread started by a new user complaining how he was robbed outside a strip joint and how if he had a CCW, he'd whip it out.
And the purpose of this thread is to ask calgunners what they would do. I already know what I would do.
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Well, you guys sure know how to welcome in a new user, where do I signup to donate?
Or perhaps a current/banned user trolling for kicks?

Let's give you a hypothetical.

You're outside your home and a person comes at you saying he is going to kill you and shoots two of your neighbors on the way. You have an AR fully loaded and a handgun. What would you do while watching him come at you and your wife and two kids playing in the yard?
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The question is more along the lines of do you attempt to save other lives or not?



Again the question is more along the lines of do you risk your own freedom/safety to save other?

?
So bro, maybe just ask the question instead of creating a first of its kind scenario? (Never happened to my knowledge)

How could anyone tell "you" what to do in a situation that "no one" has experienced.

Your OP looked more like a troll post trying to create an argument than a serious question. IMO.
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And the purpose of this thread is to ask calgunners what they would do. I already know what I would do.
K. So troll it is.
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You're a troll dude...why do you even care what the next man would do? Worry about you and yours...
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And the purpose of this thread is to ask calgunners what they would do. I already know what I would do.
I think the answer is pretty simple. My assumption is that a calgunner would choose either life or death. 90% here would probably choose life IMHO
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Do you have a tactical wetsuit? I've never seen a surfer well armed before...unless you meant web surfer? Well armed web surfer? Like a keyboard commando?
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1.) You are in gridlocked traffic at a standstill somewhere in California, you see 100 yards ahead a shooter is going car to car shooting people and headed your direction. You have both a handgun and AR15 in your vehicle. What do you do?
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And the purpose of this thread is to ask calgunners what they would do. I already know what I would do.
Read both posts! I don't come to the same conclusion as you do.
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Shouldn't the question be, do you risk your life helping others and potentially take hit from the shooter or risk your life and mistakenly take a hit from LE agents? I can't speak for the OP or anyone else but, I would:
1. Call 911 and report the situation
2. Description of the shooter
3. Description of myself to the T
4. My intentions to assist with my firearms until help arrives.
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